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JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

jabby posted:

The fact that Labour has risen quite significantly in the polls ever since people started seeing a lot more of Corbyn and got a manifesto written entirely by his team should tell anyone with a brain that maybe he wasn't the reason for the dire poll ratings before the election.

CORBYN IS BAD >:-(

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TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

The guy who's behind the hit piece on the front page of The Sun:

quote:

O'Callaghan lives relatively openly in England, having refused to adopt a new identity, and works as a security consultant, occasional advisor to the Ulster Unionist Party

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

minema posted:

I'm at work at the moment and I'm sitting with a confused elderly patient who just said "so we smashed the bourgeoisie today so I think we should smash them again tonight while they're resting." I'm supposed to stop him getting out of bed but maybe I should join his cause instead.

I don't think you can stop John McDonnell from being John McDonnell.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Best case scenario is that Corbyn wins and makes the country a better place for everyone.
Yeah. I think May's massive lead before the election may just have been a mirage caused by people not really giving a poo poo and just vaguely absorbing the negative stories about Corbyn and the positive ones about May. Now that they're actually seeing the two candidates for real it's a completely different game.
Labour gained 9+ points across basically every poll (except that Welsh one where they gained 16 instead), and that was before we had several negative news cycles about the Dementia Tax and May's embarrassingly awful u-turn and interviews today. I imagine it has done a lot of lasting damage to her considering that her sole selling point is "strong and stable leadership" and everything she has done today implies she is not remotely capable of delivering that.

No, Labour has gained about 3% in the last few days with the highest gain being YouGov's 5% in a week. The latest poll today from ICM/Guardian has the Tories with a 14% lead.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

JFairfax posted:

does it look like anything has actually happened though? I mean in that video there was no smoke or fire.

I have a feeling that the average punter at an ariana grande crowd in the UK is never going to have heard gunfire, let alone an explosion for real.

Doesn't appear to be anything. They look to be counting staff heads right now, and seem pretty calm and collected. I would imagine things would probably be more frantic otherwise.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/866783026218455042

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

This is all a bit confusing. Is the 'serious incident' people panicking?

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Ocrassus posted:

Doesn't appear to be anything. They look to be counting staff heads right now, and seem pretty calm and collected. I would imagine things would probably be more frantic otherwise.

the MEN is reporting it as loud bangs, not even explosions.

I bet someone did something like turn off an amplifier while the speakers were still powered up and at a high volume or something stupid like that

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Looke posted:

I hope Ariana is ok

I hope everyone there is OK!

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

Why so fuckin vague eh
Pretty obvious if a speaker blew up or if there's dead people

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Bape Culture posted:

Why so fuckin vague eh
Pretty obvious if a speaker blew up or if there's dead people

Speaker blows up -> panic -> stampede -> dead people. Doesn't have to be either/or.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
a speaker could have fallen on someone

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

JFairfax posted:

the MEN is reporting it as loud bangs, not even explosions.

I bet someone did something like turn off an amplifier while the speakers were still powered up and at a high volume or something stupid like that

I work in audio and I can confirm that there are indeed dickwads who pull out audio cables without checking the sound engineer has muted the channels first.

Thing is though that even on a huge PA it doesn't sound that much like a bang or explosion. And the guy who pulled the plug should at this point be known cause the SE would understand what the speakers going bang would sound like.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
https://twitter.com/SunApology/status/866785664393773056

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Lord of the Llamas posted:

There's them goalposts moving. We all know your expectations were well, well below a 2015 performance.

They still are.

thehappyprince
Apr 4, 2006

Alastair Cock

what the gently caress would compel someone to post a fake picture like that in the first place

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

thehappyprince posted:

what the gently caress would compel someone to post a fake picture like that in the first place

it's the age we live in I think, because that's the not the only tweet about Manchester tonight with that picture attached to it

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
5 seconds of fame. And because they can.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction

thehappyprince posted:

what the gently caress would compel someone to post a fake picture like that in the first place

Verification is for dickheads, news is about posting what you got as fast as possible and hoping it isn't bollocks.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

"A number of confirmed fatalities"

Sky news quoting Manchester Police

e:
https://twitter.com/BreakingDotUK/status/866787417675706369

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
People have always posted fake pictures of poo poo after events, it happened via photocopy and fax in the past. Now it ends up with shitehawks like the Sun asking for permission to use.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

The Sun tomorrow: Terrorist Jeremy Corbyn suicide bombs Arianna Grande concert in Irish jihad.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

hosed up if true

Acaila
Jan 2, 2011



GM police reporting a number of fatalities: https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/866786909544230912

Someone on twitter said something about a transformer on the roof blowing, but that was just someone on twitter who got retweeted on to my feed, so take with a large pinch of salt

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

TheRat posted:

"A number of confirmed fatalities"

Sky news quoting Manchester Police

e:
https://twitter.com/BreakingDotUK/status/866787417675706369

oh poo poo

https://twitter.com/JackDMurphy/sta...ariana-13075807

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

Jesus Christ


Someone is gonna get fired

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."


God that's dreadful if true and it's still the best case scenario if people really are dead.

Mackers
Jan 16, 2012
Sky news confirming fatalities, quoting Manchester police

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

jabby posted:

The fact that Labour has risen quite significantly in the polls ever since people started seeing a lot more of Corbyn and got a manifesto written entirely by his team should tell anyone with a brain that maybe he wasn't the reason for the dire poll ratings before the election.

It's amazing what can happen when the media stops screeching "SOCIALIST MARXIST COMMUNIST" for half a second and actually focuses on what he's doing and what he wants to achieve.

Rakosi
May 5, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
NO-QUARTERMASTER


From the river (of Palestinian blood) to the sea (of Palestinian tears)
I live just a short distance away. Pretty surreal to see this going on.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Ack, that's not a pleasant way to go...

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/JoeAaronGregory/status/866784565821677569

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/866548764365991936

Interesting video

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
A family member just called me to make sure I was alright. Hopefully 200km is a safe distance

Did people actually die though? They're apparently showing ambulances in other countries' news and really amping it up. That sucks if it's true.

Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 00:02 on May 23, 2017

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction
Police have confirmed deaths so yes.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
They're now saying that the explosion was in/near the box office, likely electrical in nature, and knocked several people off their feet.

Not sure if anything before midday tomorrow is likely to be accurate though.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

The Sun is going to have a really tasteless front page tomorrow.

Although that's true most days.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



jabby posted:

The Sun is going to have a really tasteless front page tomorrow.

Although that's true most days.

How is that any different from other days?

E: oh gently caress you

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Guavanaut posted:

They're now saying that the explosion was in/near the box office, likely electrical in nature, and knocked several people off their feet.

Not sure if anything before midday tomorrow is likely to be accurate though.

It sounds like something to do with the train line went bang?

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Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

tithin posted:

How is that any different from other days?

E: oh gently caress you

Haha

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