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May 22, 2017 21:18
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Oh hey, it's Robot Leonard.
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May 22, 2017 21:19
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chiasaur11 posted:Good thing there's the ellipses at the end to confirm that they were definitely killed by machines. Sure would be awkward to think we couldn't always trust command and the council of humanity. Because we obviously can. There's so many obvious ways that your higher-ups are shady that I can't help but speculate on ideas...at least the obvious ones. I dare not say them out loud though because this is a Dark Id thread and I might actually be right. Though I'm pretty sure my predictions will be wrong if only because they're too boring and mundane for the madness that is DrakeNeir.
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May 22, 2017 21:26
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Apropos of nothing; Id, what were your thoughts on Resident Evil 7? On a more topical note, I tried to refuse that guy an embarassing number of times before I finally realized there was no other way to resolve that quest.
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May 22, 2017 21:55
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Yeah it definitely feels like there should be an alternate path in this quest, either turning the chips in to YorHa or just bisecting that creepy weirdo when you get the chance. It just feels like nothing gets resolved with the way it ends.
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May 22, 2017 22:17
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Apropos of nothing; Id, what were your thoughts on Resident Evil 7? Yeah, I think I tried heading to the bunker but no one there cares. It's odd because there's another quest where you get some dangerous information and you actually get a choice about what to do with it. How many questgivers have died so far because of their quests? This guy and the resistance member who wanted revenge. 11b's "friend" probably isn't long for this world. I guess the supply trader is doing ok. Oh, and the box pushing puzzle guy, he's fine so far, but his job is box puzzles so he's effectively dead.
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May 22, 2017 22:33
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Qrr posted:Yeah, I think I tried heading to the bunker but no one there cares. Don't be so sure. If I've learned anything from games, it's that people who design annoying puzzles are effectively immortal.
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May 22, 2017 22:42
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Jagged Jim posted:Yeah it definitely feels like there should be an alternate path in this quest, either turning the chips in to YorHa or just bisecting that creepy weirdo when you get the chance. It just feels like nothing gets resolved with the way it ends. That's for us! Giving us stories with no actual morals or even a satisfying ending. In another game we'd either have the option itself or have someone burst onto the scene and let us sell them out
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May 22, 2017 22:43
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Okay good it wasn't just me who got incredibly  -inducing creepy vibes from that dude and the Scanner unit when I played.
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May 22, 2017 23:59
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I think I hung around attempting to murder the both of them because ugggggggggh
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May 23, 2017 00:03
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I didn't even know this was a thing. Holy crap, poor Scanner unit.
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May 23, 2017 00:12
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I was really tired when I did this quest. I honestly misunderstood at the time and thought the resistance android was trying to make a son, not have a creeptastic pedo relationship. Either way I was super creeped out by 8S' awful reactions so uh yeah. Good job 2B and 9S. Glory to mankind.
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May 23, 2017 00:23
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I think it's valid to read it as the Resistance android wanting a son or even a little brother, honestly. I'm gonna do that because it makes me feel better.
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May 23, 2017 00:28
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Amidiri posted:I think it's valid to read it as the Resistance android wanting a son or even a little brother, honestly. I'm gonna do that because it makes me feel better. Agreed. The "P-P-Please" was meant as "Please don't tell anyone" and that's the story I'm sticking to. He wouldn't have simply led off with "Hello" if anything untoward were happening.
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May 23, 2017 00:34
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I took it to be a family thing as well. Even if they aren't Yorha, the military androids on earth must live awful, lonely lives. Plus, what with the machines becoming smarter and starting to replicate humanity with the whole baby thing, I'd be surprised if androids weren't ahead of them, grappling with more complicated emotional issues instead of the early forms of mimicry. It's still creepy as poo poo, but I don't think we should jump to the worst option just because Drakengard.
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May 23, 2017 00:39
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Yeah, I'm sure the really ominous music that kicks in when you are introduced to the guy's family doesn't mean anything.
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May 23, 2017 00:41
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It's mostly the "P-P-Please..." that rendered it into Creepy As gently caress territory for me (I'm deaf and can't listen to the music while playing  ), because the little guy is too damaged to either fully say "Please don't tell anyone" or "Please help me."Then the e-mail you get afterward doesn't help- they find his body first, then the Resistance member. He could've been running away, then got caught by the machines, killed the dude himself *then* got caught... 
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May 23, 2017 00:50
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Ultimately though, we'll never know the truth of the matter. (Brain)dead robots tell no tales.
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May 23, 2017 01:12
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I read the "hello?" as him being too broken to see or comprehend what's going on around him
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Even if it is just a father-son thing and not a creepy sex thing, it's still a creepy awful scenario. The guy basically reanimated the corpse of a Yorha android and might have reprogrammed his personality. Even if it's not for the sake of sexual depravity, it's still loving horrible because, like... ew. Same reason why mind control is depraved. In other forms of media, someone who brings back the dead without bringing back the self is usually seen as, at best, a tragic villain. At worst, they're just horrible. This quest was just really creepy, and I did not like it. Not because it was a bad quest, but because it left me feeling kind of unsettled.
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May 23, 2017 01:22
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Rainuwastaken posted:I took it to be a family thing as well. Even if they aren't Yorha, the military androids on earth must live awful, lonely lives. Plus, what with the machines becoming smarter and starting to replicate humanity with the whole baby thing, I'd be surprised if androids weren't ahead of them, grappling with more complicated emotional issues instead of the early forms of mimicry. The thing with Drakengard is the sheer variety of horrors in store for the unlucky bastards who live in the setting. So my take of the worst option is that though messed up, affection went both ways in the relationship until the mysterious forces killed them both.
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Yeah, no matter how you slice it the whole situation is incredibly hosed up. The fact that there are so many ways it could have gone down in the end but we never find out exactly how just makes it even worse. Props to Yoko Taro for finding new and exciting ways to make players feel uncomfortable for 14+ years! 
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Yeah, no matter how you slice it the whole situation is incredibly hosed up. The fact that there are so many ways it could have gone down in the end but we never find out exactly how just makes it even worse. There's a reason we call him the Dark Lord
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May 23, 2017 02:27
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As Hellraiser so aptly puts it, "We have such sights to show you."
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May 23, 2017 02:59
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Yeah, I'm sure the really ominous music that kicks in when you are introduced to the guy's family doesn't mean anything. I thought it was implying the dude didn't know what he was doing and the S was just in constant pain or something. I didn't really get a weird sex vibe from this.
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May 23, 2017 03:03
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That's the kind of quest resolution you just don't see in many games- unsettling, tragic, sort of pointless in the end. Whoever articulated the 'Yoko Taro as an auteur' theory was really onto something.
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Momomo posted:I thought it was implying the dude didn't know what he was doing and the S was just in constant pain or something. I didn't really get a weird sex vibe from this. It isn't clear what's really going on in this sidequest, but the whole thing is just sketchy as gently caress.
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May 23, 2017 03:11
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Every sidequest in this game is thematically and/or plot-relevant in some manner. It's part of why I love it to pieces.
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May 23, 2017 03:12
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Well, uh, that sure was a loving thing that happened. I think I just didn't return the chips to him when I played because I thought I'd get some sort of alternate reward for not being a complete idiot and just forgot about it.
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When I played through it, it was definitely a more 'heelp this idiot hosed up my repairs'
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EggsAisle posted:That's the kind of quest resolution you just don't see in many games- unsettling, tragic, sort of pointless in the end. Whoever articulated the 'Yoko Taro as an auteur' theory was really onto something. That may have been me? I remember writing those words at some point, at least. Maybe I'm a huge dick who is taking credit for someone else's brain.
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apocalypticCritic posted:That may have been me? I remember writing those words at some point, at least. Maybe I'm a huge dick who is taking credit for someone else's brain. It might have been you, but I think it's a pretty common conclusion from a variety of independent sources. After all, what people generally mean by an auteur is someone whose work is immediately recognizable as theirs and... Well, we got Drakengard 2 sitting there, a game which seems to primarily exist to show what happens to a Taro Yoko game without the Taro Yoko.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:There's a reason we call him the Dark Lord Wait, poo poo, did I miss a meeting? I knew I forgot something, but I couldn't imagine it was the TY Appreciation Association Biannual.
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Hunt11 posted:As Hellraiser so aptly puts it, "We have such sights to show you." Wonderslug posted:
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chiasaur11 posted:It might have been you, but I think it's a pretty common conclusion from a variety of independent sources. After all, what people generally mean by an auteur is someone whose work is immediately recognizable as theirs and... To be fair, Drakengard 2 did at least get nice and hosed up in the endings. Then again that might come from the people who wrote it at least knowing all the endings to the previous game to help set the tone.
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Hunt11 posted:As Hellraiser so aptly puts it, "We have such sights to show you." Eh, it all looks the same to me.
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Tarezax posted:Every sidequest in this game is thematically and/or plot-relevant in some manner. It's part of why I love it to pieces. I'm pretty impresses with that. It's doing the Witcher 3 "no filler, every quest is interesting" thing really well, arguably better than Witcher 3 did.
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