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Pochoclo posted:What we know so far: BBC News has informed me so far that the arena possesses a main area, a ticket office, a box office, a foyer, a train station and an entrance hall, but we do not know in what combination these elements sit or what any of these elements might look like.
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Tsietisin posted:I was checking Twitter, there's a video of a girl having a nail pulled out from her leg/foot. Looks like it's going that way So someone stood on a nail?
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Party Plane Jones posted:You do realize CBS/NBC/ABC/CNN are all international organizations who have foreign offices in London (and probably Manchester) right? Yeah seriously, when I was living in Leeds and they raided the 7/7 bombers' house like a half mile from my house, there were vans all up and down the street with American news network logos (CNN, ABC, etc.). They're just as likely to get good info as anyone else
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Lord of the Llamas posted:So someone stood on a nail? Plausible on a building site, slightly less so in a concert hall.
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JFairfax posted:how the gently caress does CBS know what was going on? Just a friendly reminder: when the mosque in Quebec was attacked the US news media jumped all over it with a whole bunch of false bullshit as well. Dont let it get to you, its kind of their thing.
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Theresa May must be in a real crisis right now. On the one hand, she wants to help out the children that have been injured. On the other hand, she doesn't want to feed them.
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Gorn Myson posted:Theresa May must be in a real crisis right now. On the one hand, she wants to help out the children that have been injured. On the other hand, she doesn't want to feed them. She's going to make a big thing out of "suspending the campaign", ie trying to sort out the Tories' manifesto issues behind closed doors while also preventing Corbyn and Labour from holding the big events which are winning them support.
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May 23, 2017 01:31
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Julio Cruz posted:Plausible on a building site, slightly less so in a concert hall. People building and dismantling poo poo for shows? I can imagine people running out random doors might step on a nail? Maybe I'm completely wrong but the utter lack of information we have feels like there's a super mundane cause and this will turn out to be a terrible accident.
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May 23, 2017 01:32
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Police have apparently found a second suspect device. Jesus Christ. How can we have the final weeks of an election campaign in the aftermath of an attack like this?
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jabby posted:Police have apparently found a second suspect device. is there any precedent for delaying an election?
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jabby posted:Police have apparently found a second suspect device. Welp I guess I'm wrong? Ugh.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Welp I guess I'm wrong? Ugh. I really hope you're right. Otherwise, the election is properly hosed.
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TheRat posted:I really hope you're right. Otherwise, the election is properly hosed. He's wrong. It's a terror attack.
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May 23, 2017 01:35
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The UK press really dropped the ball on this one.
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Now let's see how much of the recent "Corbyn is a terrorist sympathise" sticks in the next few days
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Nonsense posted:The UK press really dropped the ball on this one. They're trying to work out a way to blame that notorious terrorist sympathizer Jeremy Corbyn.
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jabby posted:Police have apparently found a second suspect device. We don't know if it's even an attack yet But either way this is getting built up, and even if it turns out to be nothing the tone is gonna shift entirely to TERROR and UNSAFE LABOUR and so on
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Not to diminish the impact of this attack on the people/families involved, but this could literally not have come at a worse time for progressive politics in this country. I mean on the evening of one of the worst days the Tories have had during the campaign, something happens to spread more fear and drive more people towards their ideology.
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May 23, 2017 01:39
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May 23, 2017 01:40
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70% Tory majority, full Police State Britain, hang in there guys this is gonna be some ride Really sorry for the victims, but this is going to be hijacked to hell and back
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jabby posted:Not to diminish the impact of this attack on the people/families involved, but this could literally not have come at a worse time for progressive politics in this country. I mean on the evening of one of the worst days the Tories have had during the campaign, something happens to spread more fear and drive more people towards their ideology. Don't worry. it's what we are all thinking right now
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baka kaba posted:We don't know if it's even an attack yet 19 people are dead, a second device has been detonated in a controlled explosion and armed police dragged someone out of a car.
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TTerrible posted:19 people are dead, a second device has been detonated in a controlled explosion and armed police dragged someone out of a car. or alternately, https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/866816910612103169 this is still kind of uncertain af
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Rakosi posted:is there any precedent for delaying an election? If the public assassination of a sitting MP didn't delay the referendum last year this sure as gently caress won't.
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May 23, 2017 01:46
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/866814079675113476 Look at it. We got MURDER and ATTACK, then one of the bullet points is 'possible terrorist incident'. Is there a situation where it's not terrorism and that headline is still accurate?
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I love how we have 24 hour minute-by-minute news and the BBC has only just noticed JC tweeted a thoughts-and-prayers two hours ago. I thought every irrelevant scrap of info was meant to be being pored over?
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baka kaba posted:Look at it. We got MURDER and ATTACK, then one of the bullet points is 'possible terrorist incident'. Is there a situation where it's not terrorism and that headline is still accurate? Surplus of crows overloads transformer?
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:or alternately, Popped up on the BBC just as I posted that, but I think performing a controlled explosion at such short notice is indicative of them already having seen one real device. I think it's incredibly safe to assume an actual bomb has gone off.
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TTerrible posted:Popped up on the BBC just as I posted that, but I think performing a controlled explosion at such short notice is indicative of them already having seen one real device. I think it's incredibly safe to assume an actual bomb has gone off. Eh, from what I know from ordinance disposal procedures from the US, no, they blow up anything potentially suspicious.
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