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Alokgen
Aug 14, 2005

Are you saying I'm a sinner?

So I have a pretty big hard on for big models/center pieces. I currently own Vampire Counts, High Elves, and Wood Elves. If I want to field mainly big things (lords on dragons, terrorgheists, mortis engines, cavalry, etc....) which is most viable now?

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mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
Death lists spamming Mournghouls are apparently pretty hot right now but while those are big forge world models they're not really centerpiece-y.

Mounted Vampire lords are also supposed to be pretty good but they'll be doing the heavy lifting for the whole army.

Alokgen
Aug 14, 2005

Are you saying I'm a sinner?

mango sentinel posted:

Mounted Vampire lords are also supposed to be pretty good but they'll be doing the heavy lifting for the whole army.

That was always the pros and cons for VCs back then. Get to play awesome looking and fun vampires, but had to take 60-80 ugly boring zombies or skeletons. If I could field nothing but vampires and bats, I could be down for busting them out again.

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
I'm pretty sure Lizardmen might have a model or two that's big.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
The skeleton getting started set contains Arkhan the Black who is a pretty nice centerpiece model.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Alokgen posted:

That was always the pros and cons for VCs back then. Get to play awesome looking and fun vampires, but had to take 60-80 ugly boring zombies or skeletons. If I could field nothing but vampires and bats, I could be down for busting them out again.
Apparently the vampire mini-faction makes Black Knights battle line.

You can run this as a Battleforged army

Coven Throne (260)
Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon (440)
Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon (440)
5 x Blood Knights (260)
5 x Blood Knights (260)
5 x Blood Knights (260)
2 x Bat Swarms (80) or 3 x Fell Bats (80)


No wait, I figured it out!

Vampire Lord On Zombie Dragon (440)
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist (400)
Arkhan The Black Mortarch of Sacrament (340)
Mannfred Mortarch Of Night (460)
10 x Zombies (60)
10 x Zombies (60)
10 x Zombies (60)
Mortis Engine (180)

You've got a four horseman thing going on there.

mango sentinel fucked around with this message at 02:37 on May 23, 2017

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

MasterSlowPoke posted:

I'm pretty sure Lizardmen might have a model or two that's big.

Seraphon.

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

Everyone knows exactly what someone means when they say Lizardmen.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Yeah, Seraphon.

Exinos
Mar 1, 2009

OSHA approved squiq

Xarbala posted:

Yeah, Seraphon.

You mean like the furry tickle bondage porn?

Alokgen
Aug 14, 2005

Are you saying I'm a sinner?

I'm sorry, I'm sure this gets asked all the time, but I'm looking to revise my old square base models with round ones. Is it safe to assume Glade Guard, or Skeleton Warriors would be best on 25mm rounds and heroes be on 32mm?

I googled it a bit and found, "Plastic Krak Age of Sigmar Base Conversion Chart". It seems to be making rounds one the internets. Anyone use it for their standards?

Nebalebadingdong
Jun 30, 2005

i made a video game.
why not give it a try!?

Alokgen posted:

I'm sorry, I'm sure this gets asked all the time, but I'm looking to revise my old square base models with round ones. Is it safe to assume Glade Guard, or Skeleton Warriors would be best on 25mm rounds and heroes be on 32mm?

I googled it a bit and found, "Plastic Krak Age of Sigmar Base Conversion Chart". It seems to be making rounds one the internets. Anyone use it for their standards?

32 would be too big unless the model has alot of stuff hanging off of it. I'd personally do 25mm round for all troops, even heroes for human sized stuff.

Pro-tip: goblins and smaller actually look baller on 20mm round!

NORTH-HALL
Jan 15, 2005
"Barney comes to play with us whenever we may need him!"
Can night gobbos bring any fight to these new armies?

Black_Nexus
Mar 15, 2007

Nurgle loves ya
Plaguebearers want to be in big units, 20 or 30. They exist to not die, and the 20+ bonus is amazing. -2 to shoot them and -1 to hit in close combat.

Blightkings are great, and also a totally safe choice.

One of the top nurgle things currently is units of 20 or 30 marauders(With the mark of nurgle), with a warshrine of nurgle and the nurgle hero that gives out the 5+ ward.

So your 60 point for 10 troops have a 5+, 5++, 6++ save(s).

All of the nurgle daemons are good, you just basically need epidemius if you want to go heavy daemon.

All the pestilen stuff is good, but their synergies means you need to field a bunch of their units/heroes for it to be effective.

And plagueclaw catapults make baby jesus cry they are so good.

Black_Nexus
Mar 15, 2007

Nurgle loves ya

NORTH-HALL posted:

Can night gobbos bring any fight to these new armies?

A lot of people field mixed moonclan and Beastclaw raiders, for tons of little troops to stop the big angry monsters that shoot 6 mortal wounds at a time from getting mobbed.

Also Fanatics wreck poo poo, although they usually die right after

chutche2
Jul 3, 2010

CUPOLA MY BALLS
So I've got my list down to the last 160-180 points.

Great Unclean One
Herald of Nurgle
Lord of Chaos
Chaos Sorceror Lord

5 blightkings
20 plaguebearers
20 chaos warriors
5 knights
3 plague drones
Chariot or gorebeasts

A few things I could do with 160-180: Daemon prince of nurgle, epidemius, skaven plague catapult, more blight kings or warriors, two of the various 80-100pt heroes. Any opinions?

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Blightkings, I've seen them mince through squad after squad at that 10 man threshold.

chutche2
Jul 3, 2010

CUPOLA MY BALLS
Thanks, sounds good.

Now to learn more about the actual rules of the game. I'll start out with the start collecting boxes and work from there. Other than the start collecting boxes I would just need 10 more plaguebearers and warriors, the lord of chaos, GUO, and blight kings. The bonuses that plaguebearers and warriors get at 20 models sounds pretty nice.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

NORTH-HALL posted:

Can night gobbos bring any fight to these new armies?

Oh hey, I play night gobbos (we're called Moonclan now) and can answer this!

Yes we can. Fanatics still hit terrifyingly hard, and our heroes are still great value for points.

The troops are also surprisingly good for what they do. Yes, their bravery is dismal and they will flee at any provocation, but they have a great synergy: The boss' command ability. 20" range, can only be cast on Moonclan units. The target unit, until the next turn, every to wound roll of 6 does double damage. If you put that on a 40 man spear unit, it does HORRIFIC amounts of damage.

This makes them a weird niche: A glass cannon horde army. You want to smash a big block of goblins into the opponent ASAP, wipe as many out as quickly as you can, then pray enough of the cowardly little bastards hang around to mop up.

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer
Played my first AoS game last night. 1000 points of my Stormcast vs a Chaos Daemons list consisting of Daemonettes, Khorne demons and Plaguebearers.

So, can I use my generals command ability every turn? The Lord Celestant on Dracoth has the ability that makes my dudes immune to battleshock if they're within 24".

Pawl
Sep 9, 2006

I'm seeing this from an AoS perspective.







white primer uber alles

Zuul the Cat posted:

So, can I use my generals command ability every turn? The Lord Celestant on Dracoth has the ability that makes my dudes immune to battleshock if they're within 24".

Yes you can use it in every hero phase unless it says otherwise

Moose-Alini
Sep 11, 2001

Not always so

MasterSlowPoke posted:

Great job rehabing them. I wouldn't bother stripping, you did a good enough job on your initial coat. Grab one of those texture paints for the base and it will really finish them off. I'd guess Astrodebris would look good.

Took your suggestion with my latest rehab. Astrogranite and astrodebris. Tried to make it look like smashed up cement, and while it didn't come out quite like I planned, I like it.

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
I've actually never seen anyone scratch score lines into the texture paints, that looks really good.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



The only thing I'd recommend for the next one is to not line up the tiles exactly, instead lay them like bricks.

Looks surprisingly effective though!

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer
So if a unit has multiple weapons in it's warscroll (for example, the Drakesworn Templar has a Tempest Axe, an Arc Hammer, a Stormlance and the Stardrake's Great Claw) - you get to attack with whatever you equipped him with, correct? As well as the Stardrake getting to attack as well?

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Zuul the Cat posted:

So if a unit has multiple weapons in it's warscroll (for example, the Drakesworn Templar has a Tempest Axe, an Arc Hammer, a Stormlance and the Stardrake's Great Claw) - you get to attack with whatever you equipped him with, correct? As well as the Stardrake getting to attack as well?

Yep you get to attack with all weapons you are equipped with the number of times they can attack with them.

Most infantry has a choice of weapons though so they don't get to attack with weapons they don't have.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Moose-Alini posted:

Took your suggestion with my latest rehab. Astrogranite and astrodebris. Tried to make it look like smashed up cement, and while it didn't come out quite like I planned, I like it.


This is the look I've been trying to get with my Deadzone bases. You might consider putting some static grass or one bunch of flock for contrast.

Moose-Alini
Sep 11, 2001

Not always so

moths posted:

The only thing I'd recommend for the next one is to not line up the tiles exactly, instead lay them like bricks.

Looks surprisingly effective though!

Yeah the patch under his left foot is like that and looks a lot better. That first patch was just to see if it would work.

NORTH-HALL
Jan 15, 2005
"Barney comes to play with us whenever we may need him!"

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

Oh hey, I play night gobbos (we're called Moonclan now) and can answer this!

This makes them a weird niche: A glass cannon horde army. You want to smash a big block of goblins into the opponent ASAP, wipe as many out as quickly as you can, then pray enough of the cowardly little bastards hang around to mop up.

Haha cool, thanks, glass cannon horde sounds rad. I'll give me gobbos a go in AoS at some point then.

Will my Giant duo be any good? I cannot tell from these stats. Can I even run them with Moonclan?

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Moose-Alini posted:

Took your suggestion with my latest rehab. Astrogranite and astrodebris. Tried to make it look like smashed up cement, and while it didn't come out quite like I planned, I like it.


I'd try to get the space in between the broken brick areas a slightly different color, maybe hit it with a brown wash.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

NORTH-HALL posted:

Haha cool, thanks, glass cannon horde sounds rad. I'll give me gobbos a go in AoS at some point then.

Will my Giant duo be any good? I cannot tell from these stats. Can I even run them with Moonclan?

Yup, Giants are Destruction, so you can run them alongside Moonclan. Moonclan don't have a book or any bonuses for staying in their allegiance, so you can mix in any other Destruction units without losing any benefits, beyond "Not being able to use the boss' ability on non-moonclan."

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
The guys that are doing the new edition of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay are also doing a Age of Sigmar Roleplay game.

http://cubicle7.co.uk/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-roleplaying-game-announced/

Apparently they're going to be completely different systems? Rather curious to see how it turns out, and if it'll solidify some of the Sigmar lore like it desperately needs.

Moose-Alini
Sep 11, 2001

Not always so

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

I'd try to get the space in between the broken brick areas a slightly different color, maybe hit it with a brown wash.


Really makes the tiles pop.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
In news Age of Sigmar is getting a role playing game alongside Fantasy getting a new role playing game. (Though the lines will be seperate) Hopefully this allows them to work on the setting a bit.

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer
Got my Skirmish rulebook today, good buy for the price. Starting my kids off with Orks versus Ghouls.

Nebalebadingdong
Jun 30, 2005

i made a video game.
why not give it a try!?

TKIY posted:

Got my Skirmish rulebook today, good buy for the price. Starting my kids off with Orks versus Ghouls.

Seems kinda sexist to run a kids' game about boyz versus ghouls

im sorry

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer

Nebalebadingdong posted:

Seems kinda sexist to run a kids' game about boyz versus ghouls

im sorry

:perfect:

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I ordered the Skirmish book but what else do I need to use it? I'm guessingthe General's HB and core rules?

Thundercloud
Mar 28, 2010

To boldly be eaten where no grot has been eaten before!

moths posted:

I ordered the Skirmish book but what else do I need to use it? I'm guessingthe General's HB and core rules?

Just the core rules and the warscrolls from the gw site.

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moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Ok cool, that's good to know. Thanks!

Now I just need for them to mail my book. And mat. And a different order I made that weekend that's still pending, wtf.

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