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banned from Starbucks posted:Kestrel isnt really that frightening for an ace. Hes 5 hit points with no Biggs support. Just send the rest of your list after him. Five hit points that will put two damage a turn on your favorite ace. Most Aces have four or fewer total hit points. It's certainly not going to destroy a triple Interceptors list by its lonesome, but it's definitely another log on the "gently caress aces" bonfire FFG is heaping together.
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Yeah, I don't think Imperials really want a 30 point ps7 TLT carrier. I think I'd almost prefer Homing missile/chips/crackshot for alpha striking.
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Strobe posted:Five hit points that will put two damage a turn on your favorite ace. Most Aces have four or fewer total hit points. It's certainly not going to destroy a triple Interceptors list by its lonesome, but it's definitely another log on the "gently caress aces" bonfire FFG is heaping together. Just dont fly your ace at it. Its the same basic strat Whisper/Echo players have used since forever. Point the rest of your 60+ points at whatever kills your ace and wreck its poo poo asap.
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May 23, 2017 02:34
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Strobe posted:Five hit points that will put two damage a turn on your favorite ace. Most Aces have four or fewer total hit points. It's certainly not going to destroy a triple Interceptors list by its lonesome, but it's definitely another log on the "gently caress aces" bonfire FFG is heaping together. If your aces can't deal with a PS7 five HP tie with two green dice and no focus used on defense, poo poo man I dunno, you should probably start playing checkers or something of that mental complexity.
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May 23, 2017 03:17
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I'm gonna be that guy who points out that FFG kept refering to Lieutenant Kestal as a she. Feels like just a little while ago that this thread was discussing how there were hardly any female pilots in this game too. It also looks like they just made up someone because Kestal has no Wookieepedia page.
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May 23, 2017 04:23
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AndyElusive posted:I'm gonna be that guy who points out that FFG kept refering to Lieutenant Kestal as a she. What? A new character that doesn't just have a nickname? Woah
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May 23, 2017 04:24
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Wonder if intensity/comm relay/BB8 poe is worth a drat? Seems like you'd have TL/focus/evade every round because who'd shoot at you?
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May 23, 2017 05:39
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"Snap" Wexley (28) Intensity (2) R3-A2 (2) Primed Thrusters (1) Integrated Astromech (0) Rookie Pilot (21) R2 Astromech (1) Integrated Astromech (0) Rookie Pilot (21) R2 Astromech (1) Integrated Astromech (0) Rookie Pilot (21) R2 Astromech (1) Integrated Astromech (0) Total: 99
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Gamma Squadron Veteran (19) Intensity (2) Unguided Rockets (2) Lightweight Frame (2) Gamma Squadron Veteran (19) Intensity (2) Unguided Rockets (2) Lightweight Frame (2) Gamma Squadron Veteran (19) Intensity (2) Unguided Rockets (2) Lightweight Frame (2) Gamma Squadron Veteran (19) Intensity (2) Unguided Rockets (2) Lightweight Frame (2) Total: 100
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May 23, 2017 10:05
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hoiyes posted:Wonder if intensity/comm relay/BB8 poe is worth a drat? Seems like you'd have TL/focus/evade every round because who'd shoot at you? Or alternatively, Primed Thrusters. You basically can always take a focus. Want to take a red maneuver? You can, just take your free boost and have a focus. And even clearing stress gives you a focus via BB-8, as long as you don't go nuts.
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May 23, 2017 10:19
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So, it's Lt. Kestrel and a bunch of generic TIE Aggressors and everything fitted with TLT and IG-2000 titles. Unstoppable.
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May 23, 2017 10:27
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Four Y-Wings with TLTs are going to be better than Kestral and two aggressors with TLTs even if the IG-2000 title is inexplicably ignored by FFG.
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I remember everyone crying wolf over Thug Lyfe, too. 4x aggressors is less survivable on average. It'll make a brief splash and then only the lazy will fly it. Just like Thug Lyfe today.
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May 23, 2017 10:51
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Devlan Mud posted:Four Y-Wings with TLTs are going to be better than Kestral and two aggressors with TLTs even if the IG-2000 title is inexplicably ignored by FFG. Kestral: 22+6(for TLT)+0 (for IG-2000)=28 3xgeneric: 3x (17+6+0)=69 Total 97 So why not four TIE Aggressors?
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May 23, 2017 10:56
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I don't even know why you're bothering to theory craft with the IG title because it's obviously not gonna happen.
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May 23, 2017 11:01
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No TO is going to let people use the IG-88 aggressor stuff
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hoiyes posted:I don't even know why you're bothering to theory craft with the IG title because it's obviously not gonna happen. Come on, imperials need all the help they can get! But ok, I'll shut up now.
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May 23, 2017 11:18
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Poe Damaron PS9 - Intensity - BB-8 - Sensor Cluster - Black One - Integrated Astro I think this might have potential. Get an Evade token from BB-8's Barrel Roll if you think you're getting shot at. Or just get a free Focus token and use your action to get a second one so you can double up to pay off Intensity and still have one for Sensor Cluster and Poe's ability.
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May 23, 2017 11:35
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Turkson posted:Poe Damaron PS9 Or spend an extra point for comm relay and bank an evade on turn 1, and, then have evade, focus and target lock every turn (unless they shoot at you.) Poe without offensive rerolls not worth his points.
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May 23, 2017 12:42
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hoiyes posted:I don't even know why you're bothering to theory craft with the IG title because it's obviously not gonna happen. But...but...rules as written.......
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May 23, 2017 13:04
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Yeah the type of people who would try to pull that crap are they type no one wants to play
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May 23, 2017 13:06
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Hahahahaha, you really think people are gonna let the IG-2000 Aggressor title be used by the TIE? That's silly!
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The IG-2000 title will be addressed in an FAQ right away. And by right away, I mean a month after release and after 400 people email Frank Brooks about it.
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May 23, 2017 15:38
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Remember when the "official email ruling" on the Gonk droid was that they were considered the same action so you couldn't use EI to get a shield back in one turn, dooming Gonk to be 99% useless? Instead of his current 95% uselessness.
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May 23, 2017 18:27
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IronSaber posted:Hahahahaha, you really think people are gonna let the IG-2000 Aggressor title be used by the TIE? That's silly! I don't see any way I could justify not letting an opponent do it.
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May 23, 2017 19:44
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Poopy Palpy posted:I don't see any way I could justify not letting an opponent do it. It's obviously against the spirit of the rules and the IG-2000 title says Aggressor Only while the TIE Aggressor is listed as a TIE Aggressor on the card.
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May 23, 2017 19:49
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's obviously against the spirit of the rules and the IG-2000 title says Aggressor Only while the TIE Aggressor is listed as a TIE Aggressor on the card. Guess what. The Twin ion engine mark II card says "TIE only". Is there a ship that is just called "TIE"? So, RAW it should just work. But expecting day zero errata from FFG indeed.
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May 23, 2017 19:59
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A-Wing Test Pilot just says A-Wing only. A Wing, man. . So X-Wing, Y-Wing, U-Wing; Hell, StarVipers have Wings!
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We're doing a Wave I only tournament for the 40th anniversary. It's a strict Wave I too: only ships, pilots, and upgrades from Wave I are allowed. I'm guessing a Swarm Tactics 6 TIE swarm is going to win, but I'm thinking I'll just bring Garvin with R2-D2, Horton with Ion Turret, and 2 Rookies. Any other Wave I only lists I should consider?
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May 23, 2017 20:25
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The only thing I can really remember being competitive back then was TIE Swarm
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May 23, 2017 20:29
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Is Howlrunner Wave I?
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Some Numbers posted:Is Howlrunner Wave I? She's in the TIE Fighter expansion which is Wave I.
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's obviously against the spirit of the rules and the IG-2000 title says Aggressor Only while the TIE Aggressor is listed as a TIE Aggressor on the card. The designers are on record as saying that low pilot skill pilots intentionally blocking higher skill pilots is against the spirit of the rules but it's still what the rules of the game are.
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Poopy Palpy posted:The designers are on record as saying that low pilot skill pilots intentionally blocking higher skill pilots is against the spirit of the rules but it's still what the rules of the game are. That's so weird because it even fits the theming too. I interpret the mechanic in theme as bumped ships lose their action and cannot shoot the ship they're touching because the pilot is focused on avoiding a collision that might kill both of them. Some idiot, inexperienced pilot thinking he's doing something clever ending up doing something so unexpected and nearly smashing into an ace fits the theme. Re: the IG 2000 title on the TIE Aggressor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
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Poopy Palpy posted:The designers are on record as saying that low pilot skill pilots intentionally blocking higher skill pilots is against the spirit of the rules but it's still what the rules of the game are. How long ago did they say that? FFG posted a whole Turn Zero article last year that focused entirely on blocking.
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May 23, 2017 21:39
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It's like skiing in tribes. Once it becomes established you kind of have to embrace it.
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FLGS is having a 77-point, New Hope-themed tournament on Sunday where you can only bring ships and pilots from A New Hope. Since it's not huge or anything and the group is typically fun, I decided to use ships I haven't used in a very long time: Gamestorm 40th (77) "Dutch" Vander (27) - Y-Wing Plasma Torpedoes (3), R2 Astromech (1), Guidance Chips (0) Garven Dreis (28) - X-Wing BB-8 (2), Integrated Astromech (0) Rookie Pilot (22) - X-Wing R2 Astromech (1), Integrated Astromech (0) Basically the X-Wings fly cover for Dutch while he passes TLs and Garven tosses out focuses. I'm not going for wins, just going for fun and basically the guaranteed 40th anniversary loot along with previous tournament loot to boot.
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May 24, 2017 04:38
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Poopy Palpy posted:The designers are on record as saying that low pilot skill pilots intentionally blocking higher skill pilots is against the spirit of the rules but it's still what the rules of the game are. Stupid newbies making GBS threads up things for the veterans is a time-honored tradition, why pull back on that?
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If that's true why do ships lose their action for bumping? If I wanted to not punish high PS ships for being blocked I wouldn't design effects into my game to punish them.
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I guess to stop self bumping/fortressing
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