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Gorn Myson posted:The real logical endpoint to new phone who dis's ideology is "deport/persecute/kill all Muslims", but much like his fellow thinkers, hes too much of a pussy to come out and actually say it. Only if you're building the biggest straw man ever to argue with. You can acknowledge the difficulty of having those communities and still manage them in a humanitarian way. You're going to get more attacks, but it's probably better than getting too extreme. I don't think it's unreasonable to want to stop importing people from the areas of the world where this ideology is popular in the meantime, though.
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OwlFancier posted:True, who is head of the CoS? its me
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Darth Walrus posted:It seems slightly disingenuous to lump it in with most other religious monarchies, though, given that it became one in order to reduce the power of the church by placing it under state control. The Church of England is a symbol of the interests of faith being subordinate to the interests of the nation, not the other way around. While true, we do not have full separation of church and state, so their claim we're a secular democracy is bunk. We're neither secular nor a full democracy (by virtue of the unelected upper chamber and monarch as head of state).
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It's ok Ober, he doesn't want genocide, just travel bans and camps. Hey, if they're already in camps, maybe we can get them to do some work? We had a guy in her the other week saying how if you're in prison it's not slavery, so that should apply to the camps, right? Maybe a catchy slogan at the entrance?
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May 23, 2017 16:14
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Mr Fans, build up that wall!
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Labour will make Britain a force for good, the Tories would take us to war - Emily Thornberry Ugh the Labour foreign policy manifesto sounds amazing. And it's the only way these kinds of things will ever stop.
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OwlFancier posted:True, who is head of the CoS? i dunno its been awhile since the scientology things, its probably tom cruise now also if the mods could ban or probie the grief baiting racists that would be a nice thing tbqh
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TheRat posted:Mr Fans, build up that wall! Can we make the nazis pay for
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Miftan posted:It's ok Ober, he doesn't want genocide, just travel bans and camps. Hey, if they're already in camps, maybe we can get them to do some work? We had a guy in her the other week saying how if you're in prison it's not slavery, so that should apply to the camps, right? Maybe a catchy slogan at the entrance? Keep building that straw man! Everyone totally believes you! Make sure to act extra smug! It's what wins elections! Everyone is a Nazi but you and your buddies!
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May 23, 2017 16:16
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OwlFancier posted:True, who is head of the CoS? No one really. It's a presbyterian church, so theoretically no one is above any one else. Technically I guess the Moderator of the General Assembly is the closest?
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forkboy84 posted:Technically I guess the Moderator of the General Assembly is the closest? Troposphere or genesplicer?
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May 23, 2017 16:17
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new phone who dis posted:Keep building that straw man! Everyone totally believes you! Make sure to act extra smug! It's what wins elections! Everyone is a Nazi but you and your buddies! Will you gently caress off?
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forkboy84 posted:No one really. It's a presbyterian church, so theoretically no one is above any one else. Technically I guess the Moderator of the General Assembly is the closest? Ooo a big argument. Maybe I should move to Scotland.
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May 23, 2017 16:17
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS is haraam and not allowed to count.
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May 23, 2017 16:17
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Contemporary Islam is the closest thing to Nazi doctrine in the world right now (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mackers posted:Labour will make Britain a force for good, the Tories would take us to war - Emily Thornberry In case anyone (like me) thought that it was odd that this had come out despite the campaign suspensions, it's from the 11th. So, bit less than two weeks ago.
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May 23, 2017 16:18
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TheRat posted:Mr Fans, build up that wall!
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May 23, 2017 16:18
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croc suit posted:Contemporary Islam is the closest thing to Nazi doctrine in the world right now Pffffhffhahahahahahah
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May 23, 2017 16:19
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new phone who dis posted:Keep building that straw man! Everyone totally believes you! Make sure to act extra smug! It's what wins elections! Everyone is a Nazi but you and your buddies! Not everyone, but you sound like one, you big old racist.
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May 23, 2017 16:19
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croc suit posted:Contemporary Islam is the closest thing to Nazi doctrine in the world right now You mean apart from the literal Nazis like Anders Breivik or Richard Spencer?
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croc suit posted:Contemporary Islam is the closest thing to Nazi doctrine in the world right now Thought long and hard about this one, I see
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croc suit posted:Contemporary Islam is the closest thing to Nazi doctrine in the world right now Imagine being this loving dumb. Please gently caress off.
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May 23, 2017 16:21
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Darth Walrus posted:You mean apart from the literal Nazis like Anders Breivik or Richard Spencer? "Actually neither of these upstanding gentlemen subscribe to the platform of the actual NSDAP and therefore checkmate libtard"
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SteelMentor posted:Imagine being this loving dumb. Follow your commie brethren to the gulags old chap
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forkboy84 posted:"Actually neither of these upstanding gentlemen subscribe to the platform of the actual NSDAP and therefore checkmate libtard" *adjusts shirt collar* oh the, uh, nazis, they don't really like me... those guys...
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May 23, 2017 16:22
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croc suit posted:Contemporary Islam is the closest thing to Nazi doctrine in the world right now 1.7 billion nazis! poo poo! The world is hosed! Here's a hint: an ideology might be poo poo on paper, and/or it might have some despicable extremist members, hell, they might be thousands, but you can't just go and say "there are some really bad extremist Islam practitioners -> everyone who follows a religion follows it in exactly the same way -> Islam is nazis" because haha that's not how complex social dynamics work. In case you forgot, the Catholic church with more or less exactly the same principles it has now, was responsible for the Inquisition. I guess all Christians are nazis too!
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I think what we can take from the sudden appearance of terror on our shores is that we are not immune from these attacks as appeared to the case before the Westminster incident. We've watched the French take the brunt of terrorism over the last few years but unfortunately that hate seems to be spreading, not dissipating. Sadly I think this all comes back to the clusterfuck of the Syrian civil war giving rise to ISIS and a flag for these degenerates to rally behind. It's a massive failure of western foreign policy and lack of military cohesion that has lead to this point.
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*smoking a poop* did u know that hiletr was an islamn? no wonder he kill the juice
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Pochoclo posted:complex social dynamics wtf is this liberal ivory tower bullshit? a brown person did something bad; deport the lot of them i say - mass migration is to blame for these attacks perpetrated by native britons!
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Yeah I mean, things were better when you could go down town without roving gangs of guys in jackboots and big beards marching up and down sewing big capital Cs on vicars and smashing up pubs and pork in a bun vans.Flayer posted:I think what we can take from the sudden appearance of terror on our shores is that we are not immune from these attacks as appeared to the case before the Westminster incident. We've watched the French take the brunt of terrorism over the last few years but unfortunately that hate seems to be spreading, not dissipating. Sadly I think this all comes back to the clusterfuck of the Syrian civil war giving rise to ISIS and a flag for these degenerates to rally behind. It's a massive failure of western foreign policy and lack of military cohesion that has lead to this point. "Sudden appearance of terror" A thing that has never happened in the UK before today and was definitely not a major topic of discussion yesterday.
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new phone who dis posted:It's more about being a member of a death cult than being a certain race or an immigrant, no matter what hysterical people tell you. daubs self in mud and chants about the land of the dead No death cultism here, no sir, no indeed.
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I guess we were gonna get some spillover now that r/the_donald has melted down into a pool of glistening, golden piss
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new phone who dis posted:Only if you're building the biggest straw man ever to argue with. You can acknowledge the difficulty of having those communities and still manage them in a humanitarian way. You're going to get more attacks, but it's probably better than getting too extreme. I don't think it's unreasonable to want to stop importing people from the areas of the world where this ideology is popular in the meantime, though. What you've done is consistently use dog whistle terms which in my mind don't differentiate you that much from your alt-right. Which means you're a double whammy of stupid and just really loving boring.
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OwlFancier posted:Yeah I mean, things were better when you could go down town without roving gangs of guys in jackboots and big beards marching up and down sewing big capital Cs on vicars and smashing up pubs and pork in a bun vans.
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OwlFancier posted:Really I thought they were from Iceland? nope Norges the lot of 'em
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Flayer posted:Since 7/7 in 2005 and the attack on Westminster in 2017 there has been a single death caused by Islamic terror in the UK (Lee Rigby). In Europe however, and particularly in France, these attacks have been happening with some regularity over the last few years. These attacks are inspired by ISIS, whether you like it or not, and the collective Western failure to deal with ISIS has resulted in innocent civilians in Europe being killed by Islamic terrorists. We could and should have done better instead of letting Syria fall into the state it has. I hate to keep pointing this out but the recent lack of terror attacks in the UK is the oddity going by the preceding several decades. And the reason for that oddity is not the military solution which was employed during the preceding decades. E: where's my loving graph.
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Flayer posted:the collective Western failure to deal with ISIS has resulted in innocent civilians in Europe being killed by Islamic terrorists. We could and should have done better instead of letting Syria fall into the state it has. 
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