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Nessus posted:Yeah I mean like, for whatever reason, they can't fire the creator off the manga, they can do other things but they don't have the eternally ongoing books the way America does and nowhere else seems to do.  You sure about that?
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May 23, 2017 12:07
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One Piece has a definitive conclusion it's been building up to for years now. One of the writer's great strengths is his ability to handle and build up the plot.
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May 23, 2017 12:52
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The longest running manga is a baseball manga that has been running for 44 years.
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May 23, 2017 14:51
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One of the other longest-running mangas is some stupid poo poo about food snobbery.
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May 23, 2017 14:52
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Another is the japanese garfield Except the japanese jim davies isnt as reviled. And the garfield is a miserly beat cop
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May 23, 2017 14:54
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The only manga I ever read and care about spent like 5 real life years on a boat and that kinda diminished my love for it.
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May 23, 2017 15:10
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Norns posted:The only manga I ever read and care about spent like 5 real life years on a boat and that kinda diminished my love for it. Yeah......
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May 23, 2017 16:16
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Archyduke posted:For a long-winded and meandering example of these formal differences, Western cape comics and action-oriented manga treat the space of the "fight" in disparate ways. Superhero comics tend to elide fights except for big beats, and if they run long it's as a medium for character drama. Spider-Man fights Doc Ock for eight pages so he can talk to Doc Ock for eight pages, or think about Doc Ock for eight pages, or spend eight pages thinking about ways in which his fight with Doc Ock mirrors or supplements stuff going on in his life. It's like Jacobean drama-- the fight is where catharsis happens, but most of the thing is the tension leading up to the fight or dealing with the consequences of the fight. There's the much derided convention of characters in mid-lunge delivering big chunks of exposition-- but I don't think that has to be a problem, because these fights are often just as much about character drama being expressed physically more than they are about clarity and linear continuity-- and it's often very effective. With the right artists-- John Romita Jr., Paul Smith, Byrne-- Chris Claremont's fights in Uncanny X-Men could be all-time greats, well-paced, exciting, and crisp, even while being extraordinarily talky. A big exception is Frank Miller, whose fights do tend to be more choreographed, but he, of course, was very much influenced by manga. Also Emma Rios in Pretty Deadly. Here's one of my favorite moments from Spirit Circle, a story about eternal hatred across all of time and space. The two lead characters are reincarnated across history, lead normal lives, and then fate drags them together to destroy each other. In this feudal chapter, the protagonist is trying to buy time for his royal sister to escape, while his enemy pursues. In this lifetime, this is the first time they've seen each other. It's quite a few pages, but a quick read ( right-to-left obv. ).          The two actually end up surviving and coming to a truce in this lifetime, but it never lasts. 
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May 23, 2017 18:42
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Lol at trying to convince people that manga other than Golden Kamui and that part in Vinland Saga where the hero gets his face punched in can be cool.
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May 23, 2017 20:04
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Enough about manga, let's appreciate some real art: video game tie-in comics! Injustice 2 #7 Ra's Al Ghul has kidnapped and is threatening Harley Quinn's daughter to try to get her to play along with his co-opted Suicide Squad     
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May 23, 2017 20:28
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Malachite_Dragon posted:
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May 23, 2017 20:34
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"Athanasia"?
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May 23, 2017 20:48
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That actually reminds me. Naruto has a currently running sequel called
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May 23, 2017 20:57
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Veotax posted:Enough about manga, let's appreciate some real art: video game tie-in comics! I don't remember much of anything about the beginning of Injustice, but isn't he right to call out Harley? It's pretty holier-than-thou to call out a guy when you took part in tricking Supes to kill his wife and kid in space and then detonate a (nuclear?) bomb in Metropolis.
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May 23, 2017 21:16
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Calaveron posted:"Athanasia"? The feminine of Athanasios, a Greek name meaning "immortal".
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May 23, 2017 21:17
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I don't remember much of anything about the beginning of Injustice, but isn't he right to call out Harley? It's pretty holier-than-thou to call out a guy when you took part in tricking Supes to kill his wife and kid in space and then detonate a (nuclear?) bomb in Metropolis. He is and Harley says later in the issue that she never expected the plan to work. She expected Super Man to win and save everyone because he's Super Man.
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May 23, 2017 21:26
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Harley being a hypocrite doesn't make her wrong in this instance and it doesn't make Ra's right, either. He's holding a kid hostage to try to make her comply, he's already ceeded what little high ground he could have held and is trying to drag her to his level using something she did in the past so he doesn't have to confront the fact that he, as the one with the power in this situation, is being a shitbag in the present.
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May 23, 2017 23:05
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Ra's has also been doing poo poo like this for... how many years now? because his Lazarus Pits let him live forever, so he kind of lost any right to call anyone out on this poo poo a long time ago
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May 23, 2017 23:14
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Keeshhound posted:Harley being a hypocrite doesn't make her wrong in this instance and it doesn't make Ra's right, either. He's holding a kid hostage to try to make her comply, he's already ceeded what little high ground he could have held and is trying to drag her to his level using something she did in the past so he doesn't have to confront the fact that he, as the one with the power in this situation, is being a shitbag in the present. From the sound of things, Harley was involved in killing way more than one person. 
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May 23, 2017 23:19
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prefect posted:From the sound of things, Harley was involved in killing way more than one person. So has Ra's, (and he apparantly intends to in the future, as well, so Harley's got him beat, there) but that doesn't have any actual bearing on the current situation, where he's trying to coerce her by taking a child hostage. Even if it was Jesus himself, he's the one endangering a child and plotting genocide. Even if Harley'd killed billions in the past, it wouldn't change the morality of the current dispute, which is why he's attacking her character instead of her argument.
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May 23, 2017 23:27
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One of the few flaws in the Injustice comic, at least while Tim Taylor was writing it, was that Harley earned her forgiveness surprisingly easily. I reread the first volume recently and in the issue where Green Arrow recaptures her, she kills two cops as she's escaping, and nobody ever brings that up again.
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May 24, 2017 02:05
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I don't remember much of anything about the beginning of Injustice, but isn't he right to call out Harley? It's pretty holier-than-thou to call out a guy when you took part in tricking Supes to kill his wife and kid in space and then detonate a (nuclear?) bomb in Metropolis. I think - and YMMV on this topic, obviously - that there's something to be said for drawing a distinction between "person who did terrible things, regrets them, and is trying to do better, non-terrible things with their life" and "person who did terrible things, does not regret them, and fully intends to keep doing terrible things forever." I mean, I understand that for each of us there's a line beyond which there shall be no redemption, but that doesn't mean we can't recognize when the attempt is being made. Harley did terrible poo poo, and in that, she's no different from Ra's. But she knows those things were terrible, and is at least trying not to be terrible, and that does make her different, IMHO.
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Wanderer posted:One of the few flaws in the Injustice comic, at least while Tim Taylor was writing it, was that Harley earned her forgiveness surprisingly easily. I reread the first volume recently and in the issue where Green Arrow recaptures her, she kills two cops as she's escaping, and nobody ever brings that up again. The Toolman never wrote any of that book as far as I know.
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May 24, 2017 02:17
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Are you sure, kind of the whole concept of the book is "more power"
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May 24, 2017 02:19
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Not enough duct tape, power tools, or uses of hot rods or references to hot rods.
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May 24, 2017 02:52
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X-O posted:The Toolman never wrote any of that book as far as I know. I wonder how often that happens to Tom Taylor.
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zoux posted:Are you sure, kind of the whole concept of the book is "more power"  brilliant.
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May 24, 2017 03:24
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zoux posted:Are you sure, kind of the whole concept of the book is "more power" Superman: I did it, I made a pill that supercharges humans so they are as tough as Kryptonians. RUGH RUGH RUGH RUGH! (Punches through Green Arrow and the Joker.) Oh no, I murdered some people. Looks like it's back to prison for me. RUGH RUGH RUGH RUGH!
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X-O posted:The Toolman never wrote any of that book as far as I know. HURR HURR HURR MORE POWER Sounds like he's writing Injustice Superman, at least.
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May 24, 2017 13:50
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The Question IRL posted:Superman: I did it, I made a pill that supercharges humans so they are as tough as Kryptonians. RUGH RUGH RUGH RUGH! You can do this with any comic story in history hth
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May 24, 2017 16:36
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Norns posted:You can do this with any comic story in history hth Whoosh.
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May 24, 2017 16:39
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To be fair most everything goes over my head so
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Endless Mike posted:Sounds like he's writing Injustice Superman, at least. I think it's more Injustice Superman is turning into Superboy Prime. *beats GA to death* "WHY ARE YOU MAKING ME DO THIS?" *heat visions Shazam through the face*
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May 24, 2017 16:50
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Norns posted:You can do this with any comic story in history hth Auugheah?
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May 24, 2017 17:05
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Ariong posted:Auugheah? loving bravo spelling this correctly
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Wanderer posted:One of the few flaws in the Injustice comic, at least while Tim Taylor was writing it, was that Harley earned her forgiveness surprisingly easily. I reread the first volume recently and in the issue where Green Arrow recaptures her, she kills two cops as she's escaping, and nobody ever brings that up again. It's after Taylor left, but I thought it was odd that nobody ever called Harley out on her Shazam fixation. At least when Irredeemable had its supervillain turn heroic in light of a crazed Superman he knew to cut out the whole statutory thing.
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Norns posted:To be fair most everything goes over my head so You need better reflexes.
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May 25, 2017 02:29
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haitfais posted:You need better reflexes. I got that reference! 
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A One Punch Man Fight. From a safe distance     
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