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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Shaggar posted:

fn keys are terrible. I'm not paying a bunch of money for a sub-par keyboard.

genuinely surprised you're not using the sad rear end keyboard that comes with a dell desktop

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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
dell used to ship decent keyboards w/ some of its stuff but now days they ship the same membrane poo poo as everyone else. I mean its definitely not anywhere near as bad as an apple oem keyboard but its not ideal for sure.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

GameCube posted:

any of u 1337 fuxx0rs use retr0bright? i've got an apple extended ii here that needs some love

no don't, it hurts the plastic

just live with the patina

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
i unironically type pretty drat well on my
mac book pro board but it's not one of those poo poo ones

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



echinopsis posted:

i unironically type pretty drat well on my
mac book pro board but it's not one of those poo poo ones

not liek your posts

jony neuemonic
Nov 13, 2009

COACHS SPORT BAR posted:

theyre more than just bad

they're backlit ABS keys that aren't doubleshot. The keys are clear and the black background & letter outline is basically painted on. It starts coming off almost immediately.



I know you can get WASD boards with no keycaps then buy your own doubleshots, but I don't know if they sell codes with no keycaps. Either way you're almost better just snagging something equivalent on assdrop that doesn't have stupid defects

mine aren't that bad yet but they're shiny and feel awful. they're easy enough to replace and i'm going to because SUNK COST, but the thing isn't really worth what it + pbts cost.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Shaggar posted:

I want some clears but I've never seen them on a good keyboard

grab a soldering iron and get cracking friend!

otherwise have a look at these:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=50
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=keyed_up_labs,tenkeyless&pid=es87u_cc_bbb_al

Colonel Taint
Mar 14, 2004



Did they ever actually make any of these? I remember seeing them a few years ago on kickstarter or wherever. I think I checked their site a few months ago and they were still 'pre-production' I'm a sucker for split keyboards so I pretty much wanted one when I saw it but figured I'd wait til they were actually being made.

In the mean time I ordered a UHK with browns that should be shipping in June.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

Nap Ghost

Colonel Taint posted:

Did they ever actually make any of these? I remember seeing them a few years ago on kickstarter or wherever. I think I checked their site a few months ago and they were still 'pre-production' I'm a sucker for split keyboards so I pretty much wanted one when I saw it but figured I'd wait til they were actually being made.

In the mean time I ordered a UHK with browns that should be shipping in June.

They seem to think they're 3D printing them.

https://twitter.com/KeyMouse/status/864531229223247872

https://twitter.com/KeyMouse/status/865766319123083264

https://twitter.com/KeyMouse/status/865767348736622592

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

tk posted:

They seem to think they're 3D printing them.

wow, thats impressive surface finish for a 3d printed part

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Raluek posted:

wow, thats impressive surface finish for a 3d printed part

you can get really good resolution with a dlp/sla printer, and that would explain why it's so slow

i do have to question their business acumen though, 96 hours of printing probably costs a pretty penny so unless they don't expect to sell more than a handful, they really should look into getting proper molds done

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

that picture is also not representative of their current finished product

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013


five hundred us dollars

pram
Jun 10, 2001

Roosevelt
Jul 18, 2009

I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

Bloody posted:


five hundred us dollars

piece

of

poo poo

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

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Soiled Meat
wait a minute, that thing is supposed to be a mouse too?



hahahahahahai'ts not just one mouse, it's two mice

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
Hi, I'm Tim the tool man Taylor and this is my mouse; more buttons grunt grunt grunt

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

lol

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

3d printing is retarded

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy

Shaggar posted:

fn keys are terrible. I'm not paying a bunch of money for a sub-par keyboard.

Shaggar was right

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Bloody posted:


five hundred us dollars

ahahahahahahhahahhahahahhahahahhaa

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

can't wait to dual-wield my keyboard mice for three hours until their 3D-printed shells crumble in my iron grip

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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on the one hand, i have no problem believing that 96 hours of printing, consumables, a custom pcb and everything else comes out to $500

on the other hand, :wtc:

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

surebet posted:

on the one hand, i have no problem believing that 96 hours of printing, consumables, a custom pcb and everything else comes out to $500

on the other hand, :wtc:

yea for a prototype, sure. but this is a production model

i gotta say tho, this thing looks a lot stupider and less functional than i was expecting. it just looks like someone stuck mouse guts inside a nostromo, but made it look a thousand times worse and less ergonomic

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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i love how the overmolded rubber in the render is just a darker shade of plastic in production

Colonel Taint
Mar 14, 2004


I don't think it's a render. I think they had some prototypes molded and made to look nice. I remember seeing videos of people using them looking like that. But now they're doing 3d printing.

They basically did it backwards.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Colonel Taint posted:

I don't think it's a render. I think they had some prototypes molded and made to look nice. I remember seeing videos of people using them looking like that. But now they're doing 3d printing.

They basically did it backwards.

that doesnt make any sense. if you already have the molds to make the nice shells paid for, what the gently caress

also they significantly reduced the functionality from the allegedly-not-a-rendering. why would they make one of those and then remove functionality

basically i dont believe you. then again, kickstarter

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

3d printing is so hip right now

Colonel Taint
Mar 14, 2004


Raluek posted:

that doesnt make any sense. if you already have the molds to make the nice shells paid for, what the gently caress

also they significantly reduced the functionality from the allegedly-not-a-rendering. why would they make one of those and then remove functionality

basically i dont believe you. then again, kickstarter

Well they definitely had some prototypes that looked nicer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dt3hjHOzJI - They don't say how they were made.

It might be because they had to change the PCB:

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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
they made molds for sure but that doesn't mean they're production molds, they're probably only good for a few castings

Colonel Taint
Mar 14, 2004


I just found out they have some competition

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Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

Just add
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Bloody posted:


five hundred us dollars

im the bespoke hand-braided OFC USB cable that everyone who paid five hundo for this thing on kickfarter is currently hanging themselves with

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Silver Alicorn posted:

they made molds for sure but that doesn't mean they're production molds, they're probably only good for a few castings

nah, they just sprang for the fancy, third party 3d print

the original picture is clearly a render, the version in the youtubes is a rapid prototype style print with a really lovely fake overmold (it's a single piece of plastic with a different dye color on top). the keys are significantly different from the render also.

the production version at least has the benefit of using mech switches, at the cost of having a lot less keys on the main surface, and i'd wager they changed to a pcb with a bunch of pinouts to allow for direct wiring of the switches (instead of a pcb mount, which would require some really fucky pcb shaping to allow for a bowl shape).

it's still a dumb idea, like why the hell do you need two mouses?

it's not a mold unless they opted for lost media casting for some dumb reason, even the shittiest china fab'ed mold should last long enough to pump out enough shells for something small scale like this

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

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Soiled Meat
two mice seem like it could be a good idea but it won't because nobody has made useful implementations for it

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

Just add
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duckfarts posted:

two mice seem like it could be a good idea but it won't because nobody has made useful implementations for it

software support for two different cursors, one of them can be gamer neon green

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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super edge case, but it would allow for a touchscreen-like pinch. my laptop came with a touchscreen for whatever reason, and for certain things (android emulator, a few web pages, arcgis) it works well. then again, if that's an important feature for you, either buy an actual touchscreen, a fancy trackpad or a spare mobile device. or for the same $500 you probs could buy all 3.

anyhow i don't think any os supports multimeece out of the box, so say hello to lovely homebrew drivers

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

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Soiled Meat
so i think one could be useful maaaaybe for stuff like scrubbing controls for video, panning for image editing, etc, emphasis on "could"

otherwise, i dunno, maybe multiboxing or something?

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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duckfarts posted:

so i think one could be useful maaaaybe for stuff like scrubbing controls for video, panning for image editing, etc, emphasis on "could"

otherwise, i dunno, maybe multiboxing or something?

for complex mouse manipulations (ie cad or blender) there's already either keyboard shortcuts or specialized mouses like http://www.3dconnexion.com/products/spacemouse.html

i don't know much about multiboxing, but iirc either you're doing the same thing on all screens so you should chain your inputs across all clients, or you need to click on a shitload of stuff and a touchscreen would make more sense than trying to juggle two cursors

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

Just add
NERD RAAAAAAGE
Import office hosed up and may have sent my assdrop Code back to sender, after i paid $60 in import taxes and handling fees :thumbsup:

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Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014
lol
where do you live

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