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Luxury Communism posted:I feel bad for anyone that isn't having enjoyable discussion itt and is only here out of some sense of political obligation. FAU has an excuse though he gets that shiny red star next to his name. The first few pages were legit funny and I actually laughed out loud IRL, which is rare
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Agag posted:Mormons? Hell no. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-dershowitz/hezbollahs-goal-going-aft_b_26983.html Hezbollah’s Goal: “Going After the Jews Worldwide” Yes, world militia that wants to kill all jews world wide IS NOT a terrorist organization. lol just lol
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The thing about these sort of attacks is that they're meant to instill fear in people and how do we respond? By putting even more fear out there. It's the same reason we keep getting mass shootings. People know they'll get endless coverage on the news. ISIS probably isn't even responsible for half these attacks they claim, but they know it makes them more powerful. One attack makes everyone wondering if that dark skinned guy next door is a terrorist. People buy rifles to defend themselves, much to the pleasure of the gun industry as they get a surge in profits after an attack. Resist.
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Luxury Communism posted:I feel bad for anyone that isn't having enjoyable discussion itt and is only here out of some sense of political obligation. FAU has an excuse though he gets that shiny red star next to his name. It's actually refreshing communication in here, compared to that one-sided steaming pile in D&D. Motion to swap subforum names for a week.
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I just found out that Britain banned facesitting porn, it's illegal to film a lady sitting on a man's face in Britain. I'm rooting for the terrorists now.
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Egbert Souse posted:The thing about these sort of attacks is that they're meant to instill fear in people and how do we respond? By putting even more fear out there. I'm pretty sure the reason we keep getting mass shootings is because somebody wants to kill the gently caress out of a bunch of people
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:they're pretty friendly Takes some getting used to, coming from back east as I did. It takes a while to acclimate to the fact that they are genuinely nice.
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May 23, 2017 22:47
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Nerses IV posted:I'm pretty sure the reason we keep getting mass shootings is because somebody wants to kill the gently caress out of a bunch of people Have you read D&D lately? 
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May 23, 2017 22:48
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Snatch Duster posted:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-dershowitz/hezbollahs-goal-going-aft_b_26983.html Well that settles it, I'm going to hide under by bed until all these Hezbollah attacks in the West stop happening.
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Mummy May has upped the terror alert and is deploying the military to certain areas throughout Britain. But everything's fine, really. It's all good. Part and parcel.
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May 23, 2017 22:49
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Fog Tripper posted:
I don't know why DnD posters won't do this. Very unsettling. EDIT: I, Snatch Duster, condemn the violent actions and beliefs of all Islamic terrorist organizations across the world.
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Egbert Souse posted:The thing about these sort of attacks is that they're meant to instill fear in people and how do we respond? By putting even more fear out there. We keep getting mass shootings because our institutions and workplaces treat people like poo poo and Americans are atomized and miserable. The only reason we don't have more ISIS shootings vs. mass shootings is that Americans have become so poisoned culturally that they have no communitarian values left and without any accessible political or political/religious ideology they just sort of randomly lash out
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Nerses IV posted:I'm pretty sure the reason we keep getting mass shootings is because somebody wants to kill the gently caress out of a bunch of people But I'm not quite sure if there's any way to not give "21 dead people, including children" proper coverage without it sounding terrifying and bad. Certainly not tossing out the killer's image and name everywhere could help.
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Snatch Duster posted:
Is it the inability to admit that the groups are terrorists?
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Agag posted:What makes you think the West could do any of these things, or influence Islam in any predicable way? It seems like all we can do is kill people and see if that helps. (It doesn't seem to help)  i actually have no clue, except to say the West can more easily shape political factors than religious ones. in any case, i live in texas where there's a sizable muslim population that is pretty conservative, but it doesn't seem to have the same social and integration problems that some other places are facing. the worst ISIS recruit to radicalize from my town was actually a convert and a wealthy son of a physician, who became one of ISIS' top ideologues (another wealthy son of a physician to come from here is richard spencer lol). and i wonder why that is. but it's relatively easy here to get a job, a house, and to practice your religion in private. i might be wrong but it seems alright. basically, it's a good place if you want to live a conservative, family-oriented lifestyle.
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Fog Tripper posted:
I don't know. I suspect they might be terrorist themselves now.
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I love terrorism, I'm an American.
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Homeless Friend posted:I love terrorism, I'm an American. Given that it's the largest terrorist state in the world this makes perfect sense
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The Landstander posted:I mean, it's a bit of both. There's a reason these types tend to leave manifestos and Youtube videos and poo poo. Uhh, the first thing people ask when somethign like thsi happens is "who did it?" That's like question one for any sort of murder or attack. Intentionally hiding things just breeds distrust of the media and opens the door for mistrust and misinformation. The MSM has gotten complacent and lazy with their borderline monopoly and closed-off system. It thinks that since the public has no choice, they don't even have to try to gain the public's trust. But this isn't true and the more frantically they spew exaggerations and overblown BS the worse things are goign to get. The worst case scenario being something like what you see in places like China, where nobody trusts the government or news media, and ridiculous rumors spread like wildfire since any official denial just makes people believe it even more.
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Blue Train posted:Given that it's the largest terrorist state in the world this makes perfect sense Our terrorism's for the best though
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Homeless Friend posted:I love terrorism, I'm an American.
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Uhh, the first thing people ask when somethign like thsi happens is "who did it?" That's like question one for any sort of murder or attack. OXBALLS DOT COM posted:We keep getting mass shootings because our institutions and workplaces treat people like poo poo and Americans are atomized and miserable. The only reason we don't have more ISIS shootings vs. mass shootings is that Americans have become so poisoned culturally that they have no communitarian values left and without any accessible political or political/religious ideology they just sort of randomly lash out BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 22:58 on May 23, 2017 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:
You're always going to have people who kick over the traces. I honestly think the best way to deal with it is as one-offs and through conventional policing (or in the case of Spencer, by making fun of him).
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The Landstander posted:My favorite point for any shootings or terrorisms is the period where the attack has taken place but we don't yet know what race the shooter was, so everyone is clearly itching to toss out their usual talking points but aren't quite doing it yet. I literally have no idea what you are talking about.
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I think a lot of the mass shooters are actually sympathetic figures, and that they represent a failure of society to protect its most vulnerable members. We deserve them, just as Europe deserves terrorism.
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The Landstander posted:My favorite point for any shootings or terrorisms is the period where the attack has taken place but we don't yet know what race the shooter was, so everyone is clearly itching to toss out their usual talking points but aren't quite doing it yet. pleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleasel ettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaseletthesh ooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbe whitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhite
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I think a lot of the mass shooters are actually sympathetic figures, and that they represent a failure of society to protect its most vulnerable members. We deserve them, just as Europe deserves terrorism. Middle class teens are the most vulnerable members of our society.
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How to solve the problem: Step 1: ignite the atmosphere of Earth
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:pleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleaselettheshooterbewhitepleasel Remember the last time the shooter was white, and people were like "that's weird, why were all the victims at this mosque shooting men?" and it turned out mosques have a special loving segregated floor for the loving women lmao
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:streisand effect 100 years ago they would have been communists or labor activists but unfortunately communism and indeed any sort of communal action has been so throougly attacked and killed in absentia in the American psyche that it's almost impossible for these people to find an ideology and organize to express their outrage constructively. because that's all hippie poo poo and the powers that be who control the media have worked hard to make sure the popular movements of the 60s and 70s won't happen again. 200 years ago they would have been John Brown
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FactsAreUseless posted:but you can't act like American conservatism is somehow more supportive of Islamic reformers. Instead, it's increasingly moving in a direction where the rhetoric matches ISIS' "clash of civilizations" ideas. This isn't even Bush, who had plenty of issues with Middle East policy, who at least differentiated between radical and moderate Islam. Current conservatism is built on xenophobia, sometimes isolationism (seems to vary among conservatives, it's not universal), racial tensions, and anti-immigrant sentiment. You can't pretend those aren't there when they're part of mainstream American conservative rhetoric. I know you hear it. And American liberals don't blindly support Islam - we're perfectly aware of the many problems in Islamic countries - but many have adopted more pro-Islamic rhetoric as a response to anti-Islamic ideas on the right. I know my av confuses things sometimes but I *am* a liberal just fyi. And it's not that I think american conservatism is more supportive in a genuine sense, but they do kind of end up being the supportive party from the perspective of muslim reformers. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is relegated to fox news for some mind boggling reason. Liberals have seemingly left her out in the cold, meanwhile bernie is tweeting about "standing with linda", who has publically smeared virtually every reform muslim with any influence in western media, while singing the praises of sharia law no less. Both sides are confused on Islam and the reason I'm hard on the left is because they're the ones actively supporting the worst elements of it (usually, probably always, unwittingly). The left has no balls to speak honestly about it, so it creates a vacuum for genuine anti-muslim biggots like pam gellar to swoop in and kick the fear mongering into full gear.
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Nerses IV posted:Remember the last time the shooter was white, and people were like "that's weird, why were all the victims at this mosque shooting men?" and it turned out mosques have a special loving segregated floor for the loving women lmao Is that bad? Because it sounds like it worked to protect the women from men
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Agag posted:Middle class teens are the most vulnerable members of our society. Well yes you need a certain baseline level of power to make it that far and to actually do something about your situation Any more vulnerable members are of course already in jail or dead.
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Secular Humanist posted:Both sides are confused on Islam and the reason I'm hard on the left is because they're the ones actively supporting the worst elements of it (usually, probably always, unwittingly). The left has no balls to speak honestly about it, so it creates a vacuum for genuine anti-muslim biggots like pam gellar to swoop in and kick the fear mongering into full gear. 
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Secular Humanist posted:Ayaan Hirsi Ali is relegated to fox news for some mind boggling reason. Because she's a proven fraud who only exists to tell white people that Islam needs to be destroyed. quote:meanwhile bernie is tweeting about "standing with linda", who has publically smeared virtually every reform muslim with any influence in western media, You called her a "theocrat" before. I don't know enough about her to say you're wrong so hit me with the money quotes.
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Well yes you need a certain baseline level of power to make it that far and to actually do something about your situation You need a baseline set of resources to go on a killing spree. Without that middle class economic background its impossible.
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