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BULBASAUR posted:Awww poo poo. They also both regularly wear hats I refuse to believe that more than one person can consistently hold such terrible opinions. edit: poo poo 
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Where were you like 3+ days ago? I requested this specific image. Doesn't matter, you're here now. You delivered and that's what counts.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:What other games give away the entirety of their rules for free? Ironically KoW has a virtually identical system as to what's being rumored for 40k, where there's a free rules PDF but a fancy expensive rule book that includes things like magic items for your characters to take. Battlefront, Warlord and Hawk all charge for rulebooks. Charging for rulebooks is pretty much universal in historicals too.
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Was that in the middle of battle cannon probability chat? Cause I skipped like 5 pages there. I think I figured out what I don't like about the Nurgle stuff and the newer GW aesthetic in general. There's not really a lot of room to customise or convert anything. In addition to being so busy they have all this extraneous detail built in to the sculpt. Kinda like how they went through that period of not drawing anything that wasn't represented by or posed like a miniature you could buy.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:What other games give away the entirety of their rules for free? Malifaux.
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spacegoat posted:Kinda like how they went through that period of not drawing anything that wasn't represented by or posed like a miniature you could buy. Aren't they still in that period?
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Isn't the main reason other sci-fi war games give their rules away because they are trying to eat away at 40k customer base? GW doesn't need give their rules away for free because they already have a big player base (which in itself attracts new players) and also have a much larger library of high quality plastic models than any of those games.chutche2 posted:Aren't they still in that period? In the preview video for the rule book showed a pretty cool piece that was a space marine that was half space marine half chaos space marine. Not really enough to suggest they are beyond that but it was still pretty cool
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Floppychop posted:Not 7th. It got sold on its own and it was bundled with Dark Vengeance, Kill Team, Sanctus Reach, and Death Masque e: Also, and I know this isn't connected to GW but it's certainly a real thing you can use--ebay still exists TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 01:39 on May 24, 2017 |
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May 24, 2017 01:36
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Ironically KoW has a virtually identical system as to what's being rumored for 40k, where there's a free rules PDF but a fancy expensive rule book that includes things like magic items for your characters to take. Fancy expensive, like, 15-20 dollar rulebook?
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Ironically KoW has a virtually identical system as to what's being rumored for 40k, where there's a free rules PDF but a fancy expensive rule book that includes things like magic items for your characters to take. Mantic got HAMMERED when KoW launched because they said the rules would be free, but actually it was just a subset of the rules. Like this exact same thing happened. Historicals I can see charging for rulebooks - a lot of those companies don't produce minis or people can use other companies minis.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Charging for rulebooks is pretty much universal in historicals too.
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muggins posted:Also a lot of these companies understand real exchange rates They understand it, they talked about how much this policy was benefiting their bottom line in their last earnings report.
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Are there any modern historicals anyway Like I feel all the historicals made their rules in the 70s and 80s and just keep reprinting it with minor changes At a local convention I went to recently two old grogs brought this giant loving Alamo table for a battle of the alamo historical edit: I forgot about Flames of War, I guess that's a historical. But to me "historicals" are games that two old men have set up in one of their basements where they spend a few weekends a year for the last decade re enacting the same battle chutche2 fucked around with this message at 01:46 on May 24, 2017 |
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chutche2 posted:Are there any modern historicals anyway Lots of historical rulesets are more modern than 7th edition Warhammer, lol. Hell, even 8th Edition doesn't yet have alternating activation.
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Bolt Action has a really awesome alternating activation system. I should play more of that. GW seems to understand that modern games have some form of alternating activations, but rather than go whole hog and build a game around it, they just kind of mash it in in the assault phase and call it good.
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I'm rolfing at all the people complaining about rule-book prices in a hobby composed of ginormo nerds that probably pirate the PDF the second it pops up on some sketchy Russian website
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chutche2 posted:Are there any modern historicals anyway
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I used to play against a guy who turned 15 and immediately updated his guard to be a bunch of up gunned cannabis growers complete with psychadelic armour and paint jobs on their vehicles. It should have been poo poo but it loving ruled.
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Ilor posted:Quite a few, actually. And some of them are really, really good. Though it has randomly alternating activations, I'm not a huge fan of Bolt Action. But I'll fight anybody who doesn't think Chain of Command's activation system is a thing of loving beauty. I love all the Too Fat Lardies games. 40k 8th edition should have just licensed the Sharp Practice 2 ruleset.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:I love all the Too Fat Lardies games. 40k 8th edition should have just licensed the Sharp Practice 2 ruleset.  Holy poo poo. That might actually get me to play 40K again.
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goose willis posted:I'm rolfing at all the people complaining about rule-book prices in a hobby composed of ginormo nerds that probably pirate the PDF the second it pops up on some sketchy Russian website especially the people making it out to be like the cost of a rulebook was the ONE THING keeping them from getting back in
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Dreading the dollarydoo price. Still, I'm going to buy the stupid thing, because I want to play the dumb game.
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May 24, 2017 02:25
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95%+ of you goobers would torrent the models if that was even possible
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TheChirurgeon posted:especially the people making it out to be like the cost of a rulebook was the ONE THING keeping them from getting back in Yeah, if the cost of the rulebook was the lynchpin of your buying decision... you should probably reconsider your hobbies. An $80 rulebook plus a $50 codex is chump change compared to the resin and plastic addiction that follows after it. Save yourselves!
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goose willis posted:95%+ of you goobers would torrent the models if that was even possible Guilty.
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goose willis posted:95%+ of you goobers would torrent the models if that was even possible
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chutche2 posted:Sounds right. Well if you consider the miniatures coming with rule cards included as paying for rules, then sure. Theme forces though you're probably right about, I never cared enough about them to really find out.
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goose willis posted:95%+ of you goobers would torrent the models if that was even possible We already do bro
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Where can I find the rules for additional kill teams for SW:A? Ilor posted:Once stereolithography becomes cheap and ubiquitous, you'll be able to (and people will). Formlabs Form 2.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Where can I find the rules for additional kill teams for SW:A? https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf One-man army rules, scenarios, and the FAQ here https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/22/shadow-war-armageddon-pre-order-and-downloadsgw-homepage-post-4/
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Hra Mormo posted:Well if you consider the miniatures coming with rule cards included as paying for rules, then sure. Theme forces though you're probably right about, I never cared enough about them to really find out. If you buy them new from a place that is supplied directly by PP, then sure. If not, you're probably getting mk2 cards and will need to replace them. Such as by buying one of the card decks PP sells for $20, or buying the army on their app. Or, if you had an army from the previous edition you'd need to buy a new card deck, and that $20 is about the price of GW's army books. Then you'd need to buy the army book or buy it on their app to use theme forces. Not having to buy the core rules is definitely nice, but you've still got to pay something to use everything beyond just buying your models. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 02:56 on May 24, 2017 |
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goose willis posted:95%+ of you goobers would torrent the models if that was even possible I have a space marine jelly mould and after the game I eat my models.
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muggins posted:Mantic got HAMMERED when KoW launched because they said the rules would be free, but actually it was just a subset of the rules. Like this exact same thing happened. I knew I was forgetting a thing with KoW.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf Thanks!
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goose willis posted:95%+ of you goobers would torrent the models if that was even possible
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At my local GW store, the new models are pretty good. The bigly marines aren't bad, but the Nurgle stuff is very cool. The plague zombie dude is  The Plague Marine and the Nurgle lord are both pretty incredible. They don't seem to be as detail overloaded as the images portray, but the semi-snapfit is a tad worrying. The Bigly leuitenant has a strange pose. It's like a hip thrust/belly out thing. It looks strange.
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DiHK posted:There's one guy at the big chicago store that knows some half price Chinese hookup so yeah that's a thing. Closer to 2/3rds to 3/4 off plus free shipping 
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Yeast posted:Dreading the dollarydoo price. http://livewiregames.co.nz/livewire_en/warhammer-40000-dark-imperium.html WAS active about 10 mins ago, and the price was $180 NZD for the Boxed set. Looks like it's been taken down now though... http://livewiregames.co.nz/livewire_en/box/warhammer-40k.html?cat=1286 yeah they got snapped and had to pull it all the rulebook was like $80NZD by itself Sorryformybadjokes fucked around with this message at 04:40 on May 24, 2017 |
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chutche2 posted:If you buy them new from a place that is supplied directly by PP, then sure. If not, you're probably getting mk2 cards and will need to replace them. Such as by buying one of the card decks PP sells for $20, or buying the army on their app. Or, if you had an army from the previous edition you'd need to buy a new card deck, and that $20 is about the price of GW's army books. Then you'd need to buy the army book or buy it on their app to use theme forces. Not having to buy the core rules is definitely nice, but you've still got to pay something to use everything beyond just buying your models. Like I said before, that isn't true anymore.
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spacegoat posted:Kinda like how they went through that period of not drawing anything that wasn't represented by or posed like a miniature you could buy.  never forget
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