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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:I love the story on the helicopter stunt. Maybe because there was a movie made less than a decade before T2 which also had a big helicopter set-piece and didn't go so well?
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:There are people that think Terminator is better than T2? I'm sorry you know I love you Hodor but the little kid puts a wire into the atm and money comes out and he mugs at the camera all "righteous" and also btw this kid is the protagonist of our film. T2 is not a bad film tho.
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May 24, 2017 00:53
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monster on a stick posted:Maybe because there was a movie made less than a decade before T2 which also had a big helicopter set-piece and didn't go so well? That's exactly the reason given by the producers and several unions. But Cameron just happened to know a completely insane pilot who said fooey to the idea of red tape and cinema history was made despite the best efforts of John Landis to ruin everything with his repeated accidents.
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May 24, 2017 00:57
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reignofevil posted:I'm sorry you know I love you Hodor but the little kid puts a wire into the atm and money comes out and he mugs at the camera all "righteous" and also btw this kid is the protagonist of our film. Ya Edward Furlong is terrible. Dont forget they ruined the big reveal in the trailers for the movie. T1 is better but only by a little bit.
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May 24, 2017 00:59
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reignofevil posted:I'm sorry you know I love you Hodor but the little kid puts a wire into the atm and money comes out and he mugs at the camera all "righteous" and also btw this kid is the protagonist of our film. yeah it was the 90s. it also has budnik from salute your shorts. they had to rerecord eddie's dialogue because he was goin through puberty and his voice changed throughout production lol
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May 24, 2017 01:00
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some grandpas step out of the shadows itt god drat. t2 is so superior it is ridiculous. gently caress off with that 10fps stop motion t1 garbage reveal. that poo poo suuuuuuucks. if u didnt want to be john connor hacking atms and riding dirtbikes to the arcade when u were a kid....thats shameful
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May 24, 2017 01:19
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The stop motion reveal is good but it has nothing on the full size marionette reveal of the t-800 crushing a human skull under its heel.
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May 24, 2017 01:23
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Hemingway To Go! posted:did anyone see the detailed synopsis's of the vincent ward alien iii with the wooden planet or the highly political william gibson alien iii Both of these sound legitimately good and way better than any alien movie they made afterwards.
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May 24, 2017 01:25
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:I love the story on the helicopter stunt. One important thing a lot of people miss: did get the shot?
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May 24, 2017 01:26
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OJ should have been Terminator. We wouldn't have had Gov. Arnold Schwazenegger or 3 (4?) terrible sequels.
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May 24, 2017 01:29
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the black man as a remorseless killer who guns down an entire police station. racist much??
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May 24, 2017 01:31
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Al Borland Corp. posted:One important thing a lot of people miss: did get the shot? Well there is a head on shot of the chopper flying through the underpass so yeah, they got it
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May 24, 2017 01:31
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May 24, 2017 01:34
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wait the helicopter scene in t2 is 100% legit? I figured their had to be matte painting or miniatures involved. thats loving crazy. edit: im watching it right now. this is all a crazy meth addict nam guy in a loving real helicopter?
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May 24, 2017 01:39
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Giga Gaia posted:wait the helicopter scene in t2 is 100% legit? I figured their had to be matte painting or miniatures involved. thats loving crazy. Yes and yes. He really loving did that for real after a loving physicist told him he would definitely die.
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May 24, 2017 01:42
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HES LIKE 15 FEET FROM THE OVERPASS. Oh my god im never gonna be able to comfortably watch this again. It's like watching one of those POV tower climb videos now.
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May 24, 2017 01:46
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The Terminator is better than T2. Alien is better than Aliens. But then again I'm biased towards stand-alone originals and against sequels, prequels, remakes, reboots, etc. Aliens gets points for not being a typical "First Movie All Over Again"-style sequel and actually being a different sort of movie. But even so, nope, its just not as good. Alien is just better. Its about the unknown and outer space and the abyss and all that Lovecraftian stuff. Aliens is a cool sci-fi action movie but c'mon, it reduces the alien to just a eusocial space bug. T2 pretty much IS a typical "First Movie All Over AGain"-style sequel, but its pretty well-made and memorable for what it is and has earned a place in pop culture history. But again, nah, it aint as good. The early 90s cgi T-1000 hasnt aged much better than the mid-80s stop-motion Terminator from the first movie, so dont try to bring up special effects superiority.
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May 24, 2017 01:49
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Blue Star posted:The early 90s cgi T-1000 hasnt aged much better than the mid-80s stop-motion Terminator from the first movie, so dont try to bring up special effects superiority.
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May 24, 2017 01:50
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To be fair, that's the only scene where the helicopter is free flying during the chase. The rest of the scenes where it is pursuing the truck had the chopper rigged up to a crane that helped it do all the crazy dodging and juking around the highway. Doesn't stop the whole sequence from being amazing. That kind of stunt filmmaking is all but gone nowadays, Fury Road notwithstanding. Even middle road action fests in the 90s had some really good stunt work. Speed is super dumb but all the bus scenes are fantastic.
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May 24, 2017 01:51
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It's been so long I thought you were originally talking about the motorcycle jumping into the helicopter
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May 24, 2017 01:58
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Now seems like a good time to mention the stunt men in Mad Max, several of whom nearly died, insisted on doing that poo poo for real and all they were paid for doing it was a case of beer. Also, the truck jumping the in-flight airplane in Licence to Kill is real and resulted in unprecedented chewing out by lawyers, the airplane fight in Moonraker is real, the opening of Mission Impossible 5 with Tom Cruise on the side of a plane is real, the world record longest jump for a car in the Tom Jane The Punisher is real, the world record rollover crash in Casino Royale is real (and was an accident. he was supposed to roll 5 times, not 30+), and the jetpack scene in Thunderball is real. e: In fact: the amazing thing about the Bond movies that youngins might not know is that everything that isn't an obvious rear projection shot was always 100% real up until Goldeneye. Crazy rear end stuntmen really did all that poo poo and it's an art form that is sadly missed by us olds. The Anime Liker fucked around with this message at 02:06 on May 24, 2017 |
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May 24, 2017 01:59
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Blue Star posted:The Terminator is better than T2. Alien is better than Aliens. But then again I'm biased towards stand-alone originals and against sequels, prequels, remakes, reboots, etc. 1. something had to lay the eggs. 2. t2 isn't even the same genre as the first movie.
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May 24, 2017 01:59
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Yes and yes. Jeeeeeesus that's amazing and crazy 
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I just rewatched that scene, and I somehow never noticed how many freaking arms the T-1000 has during it.
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May 24, 2017 02:00
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrcWkwvUHdU The scene in question with James Cameron commentary.
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May 24, 2017 02:06
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T1 is a classic sci-fi story, T2 is a watershed moment in cinema. Not just for special effects but every scene is a pop culture touchstone.
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May 24, 2017 02:09
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Arcsquad12 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrcWkwvUHdU Thank you. And god bless Chuck Tamburro.
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May 24, 2017 02:11
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Now seems like a good time to mention the stunt men in Mad Max, several of whom nearly died, insisted on doing that poo poo for real and all they were paid for doing it was a case of beer. You just had to bring up Bond. Roger Moore 
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May 24, 2017 02:12
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monster on a stick posted:You just had to bring up Bond. Roger Moore the guy was an arsehole and people die, he was over 90 wasn't he? starkebn fucked around with this message at 02:40 on May 24, 2017 |
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May 24, 2017 02:17
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Roger Moore's helped to bring to life the best prog rock opera ever created. RIP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAwVaa1DLyQ
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I was just joking about Terminator and Alien being objectively superior. My point is just that a person can recognize that T2 is a better made movie, technically, while personally preferring the vibe of the the first one (and atmosphere is the number one most important thing in a movie to me). It's like saying metal is objectively superior to punk because they play their instruments better. It's kinda missing the point.
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HoAssHo posted:I was just joking about Terminator and Alien being objectively superior. Too late. Friendship ended with HoAssHo. Now Groovelord Neato is my best friend. monster on a stick posted:You just had to bring up Bond. Roger Moore https://twitter.com/teamfaceplant/status/867117969113055232 The Anime Liker fucked around with this message at 02:54 on May 24, 2017 |
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May 24, 2017 02:48
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https://youtu.be/PpKmyCywboQ
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Too late. Ha ha, what a story Marc.
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HoAssHo posted:I was just joking about Terminator and Alien being objectively superior. Do you think Aliens is better made than Alien? Because i sure as hell think not.
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Groovelord Neato posted:1. something had to lay the eggs. do we need to know what it is? Does everything need to be explained in a wookiepedia entry?? Just let it be a mystery. Aliens does the dumb thing where it tries to explain the xenomorph, and ends up making the xenomorph more boring. First movie = alien is some demonic Lovecraftian unknowable thing from beyond, second movie = alien is dumb space termite
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Blue Star posted:Do you think Aliens is better made than Alien? Because i sure as hell think not. I intentionally only said that about T1/T2 and not Alien/Aliens because I haven't seen Aliens all the way through in a long time (just catching bits and pieces on cable once in a while). I'm a lot more familiar with Alien. I'd have to watch both back to back to really make that call. Especially now that I know a lot more about film-making. I've seen T2 a thousand loving times though.
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Blue Star posted:do we need to know what it is? Does everything need to be explained in a wookiepedia entry?? Just let it be a mystery. Aliens does the dumb thing where it tries to explain the xenomorph, and ends up making the xenomorph more boring. First movie = alien is some demonic Lovecraftian unknowable thing from beyond, second movie = alien is dumb space termite I kinda like them in aliens. The scene where the automated gun is running out of ammo is tense and awesome.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auNIkLScGOA I just watched all of this and it owns. The Anime Liker fucked around with this message at 04:19 on May 24, 2017 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrcWkwvUHdU "Ok, you see this helicopter flying under the overpass? That's a helicopter flying under an overpass"
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