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Lote posted:You could tell your therapist that you murdered someone and got away with it. They have to keep it confidential. I don't think that's true at all. I thought they had/could report confessions of crimes if they chose to. They're not priests, they're doctors.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I don't think that's true at all. I thought they had/could report confessions of crimes if they chose to. They're not priests, they're doctors. 
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Your shrink can also get you involuntarily committed if they think you are an active danger to yourself or others I mean, if you tell a psychiatrist that the voices are telling you to burn things, what do you think is gonna happen For the record, though, I think priests also have to report you if they think you're gonna hurt people. If you sit down in a confessional and say "father I did 9/11 and I'm planning my next big hit already, am I cool with Jesus?" he's not gonna have you do ten hail marys and move on, he's gonna call the loving cops
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May 24, 2017 15:01
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how does the priest measure sin in our fathers and hail marys i've always wondered
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May 24, 2017 15:14
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Putty posted:how does the priest measure sin in our fathers and hail marys i've always wondered There's a chart on the wall in their side of the confessional.
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May 24, 2017 15:17
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Putty posted:how does the priest measure sin in our fathers and hail marys i've always wondered Growing up catholic, you realize early on that the priest has no loving clue either. The movie Don Jon hit it right on the head.
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May 24, 2017 15:18
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Putty posted:how does the priest measure sin in our fathers and hail marys i've always wondered I mean as I understand it confessional "punishments" are pretty much only there to make the confessor feel better so the number is arbitrary (IANAC) I should start a similar program for this thread Look at Goatse ten times and get therapy my son
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May 24, 2017 15:19
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loquacius posted:Your shrink can also get you involuntarily committed if they think you are an active danger to yourself or others I always heard that regarding an active danger, but as far as I know they won't call the police if you confess to past murders. I think they obviously will encourage you to turn yourself in, but unless various episodes of Law & Order lied to me, they won't rat you out if you aren't currently thinking of hurting anybody.
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loquacius posted:Your shrink can also get you involuntarily committed if they think you are an active danger to yourself or others Nope, a Catholic priest can't break the seal of confessional for any reason whatsoever. Its not entirely unreasonable, since if they could, people simply wouldn't confess crimes in the first place. What they can do in an extreme situation like that is refuse to grant absolution unless the person turns themself in.
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May 24, 2017 15:25
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time to go confess to a bunch of crimes i've not committed to a catholic priest
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May 24, 2017 15:28
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You also have that umpire mask thing obscuring view of your face. The perfect crime... those harpies won't even know what to do...
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loquacius posted:For the record, though, I think priests also have to report you if they think you're gonna hurt people. If you sit down in a confessional and say "father I did 9/11 and I'm planning my next big hit already, am I cool with Jesus?" he's not gonna have you do ten hail marys and move on, he's gonna call the loving cops I don't know how you drat Protestants do things, but for Catholic priests they can't violate your confidentiality. The loophole is that part of confession is penance... usually it's just a few Hail Mary's or whatever, but they can assign more serious penance for more serious offenses. So they could tell you that for penance, you must confess to the police and seek mental health treatment. (If you don't do your penance, you die in sin and go to hell.)
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loquacius posted:I mean as I understand it confessional "punishments" are pretty much only there to make the confessor feel better so the number is arbitrary (IANAC) Hail TubGirl, full of.... I don't know what substance that is. Probably not grace.
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Hail TubGirl, full of.... I don't know what substance that is. Probably not grace. Grease
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loquacius posted:These are not great reasons to doubt reality and come off kind of whiny. You have to work because there are too many people on Earth for naturally-occurring food to sustain us all, so we have to make our own. Making food is hard and the people who do it deserve something in return. Everything stems from that. Better reason to doubt reality is psychedelic drugs and the emergence of VR It's pretty easy to trick your brain and in the future we will have tech/VR that will be indistinguishable from "reality". This raises the question maybe we already got to that point and we are stuck in a loop of fake realities However we can't really prove this until we die/take a bunch of DMT
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loquacius posted:Your shrink can also get you involuntarily committed if they think you are an active danger to yourself or others A "therapist" and a "psychiatrist" are not the same, at least over here. A therapist is someone who asks you to sit on their couch and offers marriage counseling, therapy sessions for abuse victims, etc. A psychiatrist is actually a doctor that prescribes drugs and treats patients with acute severe mental disorders such as schizophrenia, borderliners, sucidals and other dangerous (to themselves or others) illnesses. The former can't get you commited, he can only get you evaluated by the latter, the latter, however, can dose you to the moon and straight up send you to the loony bin. Is it different in the states?
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Hopper posted:A "therapist" and a "psychiatrist" are not the same, at least over here. A therapist is someone who asks you to sit on their couch and offers marriage counseling, therapy sessions for abuse victims, etc. A psychiatrist is actually a doctor that prescribes drugs and treats patients with acute severe mental disorders such as schizophrenia, borderliners, sucidals and other dangerous (to themselves or others) illnesses. The former can't get you commited, he can only get you evaluated by the latter, the latter, however, can dose you to the moon and straight up send you to the loony bin. In the states what you said is accurate, other than the fact that a therapist can be a psychiatrist as well(and many of them are, as people are more likely to trust a doctor than a rando as their therapist).
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Lote posted:You could tell your therapist that you murdered someone and got away with it. They have to keep it confidential. I won't fink says kinky shrink (I've been re-watching Frasier lately)
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maskenfreiheit posted:I don't know how you drat Protestants do things, but for Catholic priests they can't violate your confidentiality. That's a pretty good plan I was raised Jewish and we efficiently build all of our confession, absolution, and penance into one boring exhausting day Hopper posted:A "therapist" and a "psychiatrist" are not the same, at least over here. A therapist is someone who asks you to sit on their couch and offers marriage counseling, therapy sessions for abuse victims, etc. A psychiatrist is actually a doctor that prescribes drugs and treats patients with acute severe mental disorders such as schizophrenia, borderliners, sucidals and other dangerous (to themselves or others) illnesses. The former can't get you commited, he can only get you evaluated by the latter, the latter, however, can dose you to the moon and straight up send you to the loony bin. Nah, that's right and it's actually why I specifically tell people to get therapy because a lot of the time you just need a reality check. If you actually need medication a therapist can refer you to someone who can prescribe it. Fried Watermelon posted:Better reason to doubt reality is psychedelic drugs and the emergence of VR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szzVlQ653as
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loquacius posted:That's a pretty good plan Do you even articulate what you did wrong to another person and receive a penance, or is it more of a "think about what you did while wearing a cool hat"?
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maskenfreiheit posted:Do you even articulate what you did wrong to another person and receive a penance, or is it more of a "think about what you did while wearing a cool hat"? the penance is that you have to stand up in temple all day listening to chanting and not eating food, and yeah you don't say it out loud because that's the one day of the year anyone bothers going to temple and it'd take even longer if they let everybody talk to the rabbi e: Wait, it's been a while since I actually went to a Yom Kippur service but I just remembered, there's one part where everyone says in unison "for the times when I was a dick to my neighbor, for the times when I lied about how hard something was so people would be more impressed with me, for the times when I secretly snuck an extra candy out of the big bowl," etc etc etc. It's a catch-all confession for a catch-all day. loquacius fucked around with this message at 16:20 on May 24, 2017 |
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You people talk about the technicalities of religions and there's a dead goon somewhere out there who's getting wrapped into a rug by a crying woman smdh
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RFC2324 posted:In the states what you said is accurate, other than the fact that a therapist can be a psychiatrist as well(and many of them are, as people are more likely to trust a doctor than a rando as their therapist). A psychiatrist has a Ph.D., a therapist only needs a certification, sometimes not even that. Bear in mind that I'm not putting down therapists, a good one can be life-changing.
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Gynovore posted:A psychiatrist has a Ph.D., a therapist only needs a certification, sometimes not even that. From Hoppers AV I'm asuming he's german, just like me. Over here you need a lot of qualification to be a therapist a health insurance provider is willing to shell out for. It's very different from the US. This is the case for many jobs. Generally you need a lot more qualification over here.
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Gynovore posted:A psychiatrist has a Ph.D., a therapist only needs a certification, sometimes not even that. a bad one can also be life changing
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purple death ray posted:a bad one can also be life ending
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purple death ray posted:a bad one can also be life changing Well, yeah, you might get laid.
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I just had surgery and got some oxycontin for pain relief now ive seen this stuff in movies used as recreational drugs, but this stuff is just making me sleepy
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Fartbox posted:I just had surgery and got some oxycontin for pain relief thats about 90% of recreational drugs, tbh.
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Fartbox posted:I just had surgery and got some oxycontin for pain relief I got IV morphine once after a surgery and it felt pretty good, but when I asked for more they said I'd have to stay an extra 24 hours. I said no thanks because gently caress that, no drugs make sleeping in a hospital worth it.
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Fried Watermelon posted:Better reason to doubt reality is psychedelic drugs and the emergence of VR As someone who works with virtual reality i can tell you we are nowhere near this point
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quote:I'm the gay male friend to a lot of girls, and my best friend is a girl I've known since high school. We hang out constantly and share all the details of our lives. Because I'm gay, I feel like women are more open to sharing things. I get to hear about bedroom antics, fights with the guy... all things that were I straight, I probably wouldn't know. I'm also just one of the girls in a a lot of ways, so I've seen all my girls in various states of undress, have spent the night with them and cuddled up, and overall get a lot of hugs and stuff while hanging out with them. I mean, you probably shouldn't be doing this at all, ofc but the easiest way out here is to find an excuse to not do the bachelorette party. This shouldn't be hard. Say you're too busy or that you don't really do nights out that often or etc etc etc, and get someone else in the bridal party to plan it. Then don't go, because you have a wicked migraine or diarrhea or whatever, think of something, and "make it up to her" by taking her out to brunch or something. Still stand in the right place and give your speech though, you shouldn't have a problem with that. Make the program say "man of honor" though, that's a reasonable request. My sister had a "man of honor" at her wedding. quote:Crime in my city has gotten out of control. Lots of drugs coming in and flooding the streets, leading to gang activity, people ODing, robberies, theft, and all around danger in the streets. People I knew as a child are now being busted for selling meth, or leaving their baby unattended while they smoked weed. It's out of control.
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Wow, fake gay guy, that's both the saddest and funniest thing I've read in a while.
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loquacius posted:I think we've had "fake superhero" confessions before; this one is different, though, in that the narrator is of course not actually doing anything Seriously, he watches the news and creates noise disturbances that accomplish nothing. Lamest superhero I ever heard of.
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Police Automaton posted:From Hoppers AV I'm asuming he's german, just like me. Over here you need a lot of qualification to be a therapist a health insurance provider is willing to shell out for. It's very different from the US. This is the case for many jobs. Generally you need a lot more qualification over here. Like a lot of mental health issues in the US, it depends a lot on the state as well. Licensure is a big deal in many of them, requiring a Masters degree and supervision under a fully licensed therapist. Often there are different tiers as well, so there is a lot of work you have to do before you can be a solo practitioner.
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Jim Barris posted:Wow, fake gay guy, that's both the saddest and funniest thing I've read in a while. I was the "Man of Honor" at my friend's wedding. It's not odd at all. She's choosing you because you're her closest friend. That's the biggest issue here. Have you been sleeping with girls all this time? If not just come out as asexual and be done with it. That may actually be the issue anyways.
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Yeah he doesn't exist if you google him so uhhh why put your stupid superhero name in the confession?
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i think I'm going to become a real life supervillain just to kick the rear end of anybody in tights
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Jimmy Hats posted:Yeah he doesn't exist if you google him so uhhh why put your stupid superhero name in the confession? Tbf if it was real I don't think anyone around would take him seriously enough to publish his fake name in the local paper or whatever, but he'd take himself seriously enough to brag about it It fits Putty posted:i think I'm going to become a real life supervillain just to kick the rear end of anybody in tights Drive around with speakers on your car repeating "CHAOS REIGNS. RIOT IN THE STREETS. YOU ARE VERY AFRAID. THIS IS CHAOS TOWN NOW." over and over
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loquacius posted:im not gay Step the gently caress up and plan the most baller loving bachelorette party for your friend that the world has ever seen. Then give a speech at her wedding that would give the greatest ancient Greek orators pause. This girl has confided in you, cuddled with you, vented to you, and been such a close friend over the years that she wants you to be the maid of honor? loving do it, you enormous goober. Not because you "owe" her or some poo poo like that, but because come the gently caress on, it's the right thing to do, and it's an opportunity for you to shine. Who gives a poo poo if you have to see (gasp!) a scantily-clad or n-n-n-n-nude m-m-m-m-male? Show your friend a great time, you numbskull. As for the fear of being drunk, covertly ask the bartender to serve you water on the rocks with a lemon slice and a straw in place of alcohol, and refuse any other drinks offered. Just say you're not fond of whatever they're offering. Or, better yet, offer to be the DD. Instant ticket out of that problem. Also, as far as revealing your secret, you don't have to tell her you're not gay. Why would you do that?!?! Getting married is supposed to be one of the happiest moments in a person's life and you're telling us you might "slip up" and loving ruin it because, I dunno, you don't want to see a dong? Dude, you don't even have to lie--if one of the gals asks if you think the stripper is hot, you can just say "eh, he's not my type." And you know you don't have to look at the dong, right?
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