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Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
Joe Rogan is naive in the extreme, but I'd never say he's a hateful person. It's tempting to want to see the best in people even if it's all a lie so I get where the "let's give them a chance" mindset comes from even if I don't agree with it.

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Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
Rogan was a Bernie bro who voted for Gary Johnson, and I think that's the best way to explain him.

As far as Canada... And this only applies to English Canada... I think we produce so many alt-right poo poo heads because it's such a taboo thing up here. "Diversity is strength" has been a mantra since at least the 1990s. So the alt-right attracts a lot of contrarians and bitter rural whites. Also it is really tough to make it in Canadian media. It's a small market rife with nepotism. For the opportunist who wants to make it in the USA going alt-right on Youtube is a better career move.

Gavin is different. Gavin is just a broken brained dude who did too many drugs and is now trying to repent be becoming a Catholic Fascist.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Canada doesn't send its best

Qu Appelle
Nov 3, 2005

"If a COVID-19 pandemic occurs, public health officials may have additional instructions, such as avoiding close contact with others as much as possible, and staying home if someone in your household is sick." - Official insights from Public Health: Seattle & King County staff

A good article with what's happening in Portland, OR lately:

http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/05/2...ty-is-watching/

"White Supremacists Are Brawling with Masked Leftists in the Portland Streets. Homeland Security is Watching.
A leading celebrity of the "alt-right" pledges to battle antifa in the middle of the Rose Festival."

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

zegermans posted:

Canada is very diverse and everyone is cool with it which breaks the brains of racists.

On the other hand: Alberta.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Captain_Maclaine posted:

On the other hand: Alberta.

North Texas doesn't count

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Montasque posted:

Rogan was a Bernie bro who voted for Gary Johnson, and I think that's the best way to explain him.

As far as Canada... And this only applies to English Canada... I think we produce so many alt-right poo poo heads because it's such a taboo thing up here. "Diversity is strength" has been a mantra since at least the 1990s. So the alt-right attracts a lot of contrarians and bitter rural whites. Also it is really tough to make it in Canadian media. It's a small market rife with nepotism. For the opportunist who wants to make it in the USA going alt-right on Youtube is a better career move.

Gavin is different. Gavin is just a broken brained dude who did too many drugs and is now trying to repent be becoming a Catholic Fascist.

Canada is also a pretty poor-rear end country where rural poverty and industrial decline has led to the creation of a transient population of (mostly white) labourers that chase oil industry jobs around the country and do heroin. In the cities, the Canadian economy is dependent on a ludicrous real estate bubble that prices out everybody except for foreign millionaires unless you take part in it. Which the majority of Toronto and Vancouver homeowners have.

Alt-righters don't have an answer for anything, but it's easy to recruit insecure and confused white boys by telling them that everybody else is responsible for loving up the country, and that they can actually be stopped from loving up the country if you join a neonazi mancave. It's an appealling sentiment if you are dumb and white, which most of the country is, especially if you grew up in those podunk shitburbs where everybody aspires to be Americans.

Nobody wants to believe that it's already too late to fix a trainwreck like the canadian economy

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
Yeah you wanna see fertile ground for the alt right head on up to Fort McMurray. It is a bizarre and terrible place.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Canada is also a pretty poor-rear end country where rural poverty and industrial decline has led to the creation of a transient population of (mostly white) labourers that chase oil industry jobs around the country and do heroin. In the cities, the Canadian economy is dependent on a ludicrous real estate bubble that prices out everybody except for foreign millionaires unless you take part in it. Which the majority of Toronto and Vancouver homeowners have.

Alt-righters don't have an answer for anything, but it's easy to recruit insecure and confused white boys by telling them that everybody else is responsible for loving up the country, and that they can actually be stopped from loving up the country if you join a neonazi mancave. It's an appealling sentiment if you are dumb and white, which most of the country is, especially if you grew up in those podunk shitburbs where everybody aspires to be Americans.

Nobody wants to believe that it's already too late to fix a trainwreck like the canadian economy

It's true - Most white Canadians live in cities and work two jobs to pay $1500 rent on a single bedroom roach infested apartment in Toronto. Or their parents pay for everything.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

Maybe there's a certain class of people responsible for all the real estate speculation. The people who own all the land? You know, coloreds.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Maybe there's a certain class of people responsible for all the real estate speculation. The people who own all the land? You know, coloreds.

no land, only ice

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Canada is always a few cycles behind America politically, give it a few years

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Did this ever end up posted here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)


im not serious about "libertarian fascism" guys im just playing around with ideas :thunk:

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014
A disproportionate amount of these alt-right personalities are Canadian relative to the US. Just like a disproportionate number of foreign ISIS fighters are Canadian relative to the US.

Clearly we are a failed state.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

im not serious about "libertarian fascism" guys im just playing around with ideas :thunk:

He even admits to it appealing to him at the very end. It is a pretty good horror video.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Bushiz posted:

Joe Rogan is alt right in that he is too goddamn stupid to call out the monstrous behavior of his guests but he is also anti alt right in the sense that he lets his guests talk until they say something plainly demonic.

Only as long as they do not insult weed or DMT.

Which is what Crowder did and Joe Rogan apparently shouted at him until he cried.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007


so it was bad that muslims killed those kids because they don't respect women, but also those kids were sluts

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/867418698268549120

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Admiral Ray posted:

Yeah you wanna see fertile ground for the alt right head on up to Fort McMurray. It is a bizarre and terrible place.

Fort McMurray is as close as I've ever seen to hell on earth. The anime nazis would get eaten

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Star Trek was always renowned for it's dedication to white supremacy and anti-inclusiveness.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

Who could forget the all white cast of Star Trek's original series

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Who could forget the all white cast of Star Trek's original series

But at least the non-white characters knew their place! Secretary...in space!

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side
"White Genocide In Space" was actually Roddenberry's original working title

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

Ron Jeremy posted:

But at least the non-white characters knew their place! Secretary...in space!

They let a Slav control their weapons systems. Madnesss!

coathat
May 21, 2007

Woo buddy glad someone's reporting about what racists think about minorities on tv.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

If anything the biggest oversight of all the Star Treks to date is that there aren't many Indian people in the Federation, and there's like a billion of them right now.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Um, actually, I think you'll find that the entire subcontinent was completely devastated as a result of Khan Noonien Singh's mad lust for power.

Or something, I'm not a nerd who watches Star Trek.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

breathtaking

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

This video is a real hoot.

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

THC posted:

breathtaking



Pretty sure any real Christian would perfectly mirror the views of alt-right freaks.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


National loving Review posted:

Something of this implication is fixed in the book’s dictatorial tone, which is much its most striking feature. Out of a lifetime of reading, I can recall no other book in which a tone of overriding arrogance was so implacably sustained. Its shrillness is without reprieve. Its dogmatism is without appeal. In addition, the mind which finds this tone natural to it shares other characteristics of its type. 1) It consistently mistakes raw force for strength, and the rawer the force, the more reverent the posture of the mind before it. 2) It supposes itself to be the bringer of a final revelation. Therefore, resistance to the Message cannot be tolerated because disagreement can never be merely honest, prudent, or just humanly fallible. Dissent from revelation so final (because, the author would say, so reasonable) can only be willfully wicked. There are ways of dealing with such wickedness, and, in fact, right reason itself enjoins them. From almost any page of Atlas Shrugged, a voice can be heard, from painful necessity, commanding: “To a gas chamber — go!”

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Admiral Ray posted:

Star Trek was always renowned for it's dedication to white supremacy and anti-inclusiveness.

they did this same poo poo with force awakens and rogue one for "politicizing" star wars, a movie about a gender, race, and culture-diverse crew of outcasts, criminals, and revolutionaries fighting a technocratic white male empire

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
This is so loving funny, because this trend (and I've seen this kind of thinking from other libertarians) totally undermines everything the libertarians have been saying about themselves since forever.

The usual refrain of libertarians is that fascism = socialism (that why it's national socialism *smug face*), and therefore both are antithetical to libertarianism. It's useful to them, because it places themselves as 'beyond' ideology.

Here, we see that even the libertarians themselves didn't believe that line, never believed it. Now, suddenly, the evils of fascism aren't all that bad anymore :shrug:, yet that somehow doesn't translate over into support for socialism. If, as the libertarians said, fascism was equivalent to socialism, then what sense does it make to talk up fascism as a defense against socialism? The reason is simple: they lied, they knew they were lying, and they didn't care.

They only give a poo poo about 'personal liberty' only so long as it mean not paying their taxes. The only 'liberty' that mattered was the 'liberty' for themselves to exploit, oppress & appropriate from others. They're not freedom lovers, never were, they're just right wing extremist, and this proves it. And everyone with even a slightly historical eye saw it coming a mile away.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

good. everyone should know what libertarianism is actually about

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

that's some pretty islamic posting

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Canada is also a pretty poor-rear end country

this, this may be a false premise

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

rudatron posted:

This is so loving funny, because this trend (and I've seen this kind of thinking from other libertarians) totally undermines everything the libertarians have been saying about themselves since forever.

The usual refrain of libertarians is that fascism = socialism (that why it's national socialism *smug face*), and therefore both are antithetical to libertarianism. It's useful to them, because it places themselves as 'beyond' ideology.

Here, we see that even the libertarians themselves didn't believe that line, never believed it. Now, suddenly, the evils of fascism aren't all that bad anymore :shrug:, yet that somehow doesn't translate over into support for socialism. If, as the libertarians said, fascism was equivalent to socialism, then what sense does it make to talk up fascism as a defense against socialism? The reason is simple: they lied, they knew they were lying, and they didn't care.

They only give a poo poo about 'personal liberty' only so long as it mean not paying their taxes. The only 'liberty' that mattered was the 'liberty' for themselves to exploit, oppress & appropriate from others. They're not freedom lovers, never were, they're just right wing extremist, and this proves it. And everyone with even a slightly historical eye saw it coming a mile away.

rudatrons first encounter with anarchism looking pretty funny

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

leftys need to move past the word socialist until the boomers in charge die off, because that word means wayyy different things to different generations and it has been poisoned by the Cold War and rwm, like the word welfare

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
"Libertarians are Anarchists who want the state to protect them from their slaves"

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