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Not enough was made about "Patient Protection" part of the ACA
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The CBO summary acidly remarked that they aren't counting people who buy the poo poo insurance the GOP will offer as being insured.
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Teddybear posted:14 million next year, 23 million by 2026. There are going to be giant riots aren't there?
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https://twitter.com/samsteinhp/status/867479735915466752 lol it's going to jack premiums 20% next year compared to existing law
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evilmiera posted:There are going to be giant riots aren't there?
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Krispy Kareem posted:Don't forget the 3rd part of our nuclear triad, subs. That, at least in theory, gives the President more breathing room when it comes to launching a retaliatory strike since the Russians can't first strike a submarine. The idea of a nuclear sub is the launch pad can be close to the enemy's land-based missiles, so if we detect them fueling or are expending an imminent launch, we can destroy the site instead. They make a hilariously effective dead-mans switch, too, yeah.
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My Twooter has gone silent almost.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/samsteinhp/status/867479735915466752 Unbelievable.
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evilmiera posted:There are going to be giant riots aren't there? I hate the idea that the only person capable of preventing 23 million people from losing their health care is Mitch Mcconnell.
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Rigel posted:The CBO summary acidly remarked that they aren't counting people who buy the poo poo insurance the GOP will offer as being insured. That was them getting around what Bloomberg point it out. By doing it that way it passes reconciliation while lying about the fact that it actually doesn't save money period I told you republican-led board will lie and cheat and steal and that's what they just did.
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My Twitter Account posted:Only until the plague takes care of them. "Let it spill over into the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them."
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Covok posted:That was them getting around what Bloomberg point it out. By doing it that way it passes reconciliation while lying about the fact that it actually doesn't save money period I told you republican-led board will lie and cheat and steal and that's what they just did. this is not true in any sense
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evilmiera posted:There are going to be giant riots aren't there? Hey, if they kill enough GOP representatives we get the house early.
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evilmiera posted:There are going to be giant riots aren't there? Without health care? Can't afford to riot.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/samsteinhp/status/867479735915466752 This was the surprise. We kinda expected it would cover slightly more people than the original bill and save a bit less money, but I don't know that anyone including the GOP expected a 20% premium hike in 2018.
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ReidRansom posted:Without health care? Can't afford to riot.
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If I'm reading it right, premiums would go down about 4% in half the country (by 2026), 20% in about 1/3rd of the country, and "we have no idea" down in the remaining 6th. In exchange for 23 million people to lose their insurance. that doesn't seem worth it IMO.
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So by version 50 we should be all good
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evilmiera posted:There are going to be giant riots aren't there? Most GOP voters will just believe everything Dear Leader tells them.
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theflyingorc posted:If I'm reading it right, premiums would go down about 4% in half the country (by 2026), 20% in about 1/3rd of the country, and "we have no idea" down in the remaining 6th. well we also save approximately $600 per year for each person we throw off their medical insurance that's almost $40 bucks per american of sweet sweet deficit relief definitely seems worth it
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theflyingorc posted:If I'm reading it right, premiums would go down about 4% in half the country (by 2026), 20% in about 1/3rd of the country, and "we have no idea" down in the remaining 6th. For less services as well
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Yeah but isn't the office that generates the CBO score really just a liberal shill? I mean FAKE NEWS, amirite? The new proposal is going to insure 50 billion Americans by 2015!
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Time to see how dems capitalize on this besides some snarky tweets and statements, nada
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Rigel posted:This was the surprise. We kinda expected it would cover slightly more people than the original bill and save a bit less money, but I don't know that anyone including the GOP expected a 20% premium hike in 2018. It's not a 20% premium hike. Next year, the high end estimate is 20-30% increase in premiums for the ACA. The CBO forcast is 20-30% + an additional 20% premium hike.
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theflyingorc posted:If I'm reading it right, premiums would go down about 4% in half the country (by 2026), 20% in about 1/3rd of the country, and "we have no idea" down in the remaining 6th. Well yeah, if you tell the unhealthy people to go gently caress off and die, then insurance will be cheaper to buy for everyone else.
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That any House Republican can win reelection after voting for this piece of poo poo is a pretty large indictment of democracy.
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Lol if you think this is the CBO scoring Ryan or McConnell want.
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Alter Ego posted:Yeah I don't see anyone being able to sell this bill with these numbers, regardless.  there are only 2 somewhat at risk GOP Senators up in 2018. This will fly through and poor people will all be handed a gun with a single bullet when they next go to the doctor.
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Lote posted:It's not a 20% premium hike. So you're saying with this new bill, they expect a hike of up to 50%?!
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Dems need to push the narrative that the House voted this through without the score.
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guidoanselmi posted:Time to see how dems capitalize on this besides some snarky tweets and statements, nada not really sure what you'd like to see them do that they're able to at this point
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mcmagic posted:That any House Republican can win reelection after voting for this piece of poo poo is a pretty large indictment of white americans. 
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https://mobile.twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/867481059784626177 Melania is giving her heart to an Italian infant because she can't take this anymore
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Lote posted:It's not a 20% premium hike. lol @ the idea of passing a bill that will make premiums go up 40% in an election year
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol if you think this is the CBO scoring Ryan or McConnell want. But will it make a difference? Time to find out!
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol if you think this is the CBO scoring Ryan or McConnell want. Ryan maybe, McConnell probably not. Ryan hates the "unworthy" which is specifically who this bill ravages.
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