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Testikles posted:I read it. I'm just saying he's acting like the New Testament exists in a vacuum. Jesus might have said that the things he said were the new rules, but people frequently go back to the Old Testament when they need a reason for something. The two testaments even come in the same book after all. Let me put so goons understand. Jesus's teachings and the new testament is God's release day patch notes.
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Testikles posted:I read it. I'm just saying he's acting like the New Testament exists in a vacuum. Jesus might have said that the things he said were the new rules, but people frequently go back to the Old Testament when they need a reason for something. The two testaments even come in the same book after all. the old testament specifically concerned the jews and the nation of israel, so no, most of it is not valid currently
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Testikles posted:I read it. I'm just saying he's acting like the New Testament exists in a vacuum. Jesus might have said that the things he said were the new rules, but people frequently go back to the Old Testament when they need a reason for something. The two testaments even come in the same book after all. I'm pretty sure the bible is a collection of books, letters, poems and stuff. I've never heard anyone who thought it was a single long rambling book. Heck, the word bible means a collection of books.
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Snatch Duster posted:*liberals tear down Robert E Lee statues because of slavery* The alt-right fanfic community.
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May 24, 2017 21:42
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spacetoaster posted:Can you elaborate on how they're the same? Beyond believing in a "god"? Exclusionary monotheistic religion that believes in an afterlife, being good to one another, adhering to a bunch of arbitrary rules. Mandatory attendance of religious centres, a hierarchical and insular clergy system, internal disputes and sects. Hell, even the books and history overlap a lot. Some of the characters are the same. Both very large with roughly the same shelf-life and tendency to poo poo on people who don't believe what they believe.
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your friend a dog posted:the old testament specifically concerned the jews and the nation of israel, so no, most of it is not valid currently Other than almost every Christian denomination disagreeing with it this is a good point.
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Agag posted:The alt-right fanfic community. tell me more how I'm a neo-nazi, being a native american.
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May 24, 2017 21:43
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Snatch Duster posted:tell me more how I'm a neo-nazi, being a native american. You're no more or less neo-nazi than a white neo-nazi. That would be racist. Possibly also reverse-racist, the worst kind.
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May 24, 2017 21:44
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Agag posted:Other than almost every Christian denomination disagreeing with it this is a good point. considering the largest denomination prays to saints in direct disobedience of the bible, im not really sure they matter
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Lmao, just dwell on this insanity Extremists from one particular religion keep blowing people up, like every couple of weeks And the powers that be tell everyone "Well, that will happen. Carry on" This is crazy
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your friend a dog posted:considering the largest denomination prays to saints in direct disobedience of the bible, im not really sure they matter We should probably get rid of them at the same time we get rid of Islam. I mean while we're at it. Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Lmao, just dwell on this insanity We've been killing their civilians nonstop for 16 years. Presumably by "doing nothing" people mean the status quo of mutual child-murder. The setup is vaguely Aztec, but without the cool pyramids.
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Jeza posted:People defend Islam as a whole because the religion is almost always just clothing for the reasons behind what people do. If the state of the world was topsy turvy and Christianity or any other mainstream but exclusionary religion was the minority, while there was an affluent Islamic status quo that occupied and generally interfered with the Christian homelands, there would probably be sects of radical Christians willing to martyr themselves in horrible ways too. This is just straight up wrong. First, other religions don't condone violence directly in their religious texts like Islam. Second, fuckers in Sweden and poo poo are getting hit by these atrocities that have nothing to do with US foreign policy. I mean, Germany welcomed how many refugees with open arms? We are dealing with a belief system that is fundamentally rotten to its very core, and is utterly compatible with a free and peaceful society.
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Lmao, just dwell on this insanity What are your actual practical suggestions?
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spacetoaster posted:I'm pretty sure the bible is a collection of books, letters, poems and stuff. I've never heard anyone who thought it was a single long rambling book. It'd be the correct way to put it, but you're acting as if modern day Christians eschew the entirety of the Old Testament. It's outdated in relation to Jesus but at the same time it still influences Christianity and does find its way in the justification of things.
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Lmao, just dwell on this insanity Do you have some kind of final solution to this Islamic problem?
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Agag posted:You're supposed to reliably kill children with missiles or Navy SEAL bullets. Get it together, terrorists. Interview with ER nurse 'I still feel raw': nurse tells of treating Manchester bombing victims https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/24/i-still-feel-raw-nurse-tells-of-treating-manchester-bombing-victims Joe O’Brien is a senior sister in the surgical department of Stepping Hill hospital in Stockport, where six of the 59 injured in the Manchester bombing were treated. quote:On Monday, I worked from 8am until 6pm as a surgery sister at Stepping Hill hospital in Stockport. I was in bed that night listening to BBC Radio Four when I heard the words ‘Manchester’ and ‘incident’. I immediately thought about Declan, my son, a student who lives in central Manchester. I shot downstairs, spoke to my husband Sean. We rang Declan and established that he was OK, then I rang work and went in.
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revmoo posted:This is just straight up wrong. First, other religions don't condone violence directly in their religious texts like Islam. LOL
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Agag posted:We should probably get rid of them at the same time we get rid of Islam. I mean while we're at it. "Their civilians" These are 2nd generation citizens Obviously if they think like that their loyalties lie elsewhere
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Jeza posted:Liberalisation and tolerance is derived from power and stability. To me Christianity and Islam, while containing minor differences, are functionally the same thing. Obviously in this hypothetical world, things wouldn't be a perfect mirror, but I see no reason to assume that a rough parallel wouldn't emerge. History can show us a number of periods where Islam was a notably more tolerant religion than Christianity, and of course the reverse. It's one of life's little ironies that Jews were once more welcome in some segments of Islamic society than most Christian ones, for example. The hypothetical situation you are describing could never be achieved because Islam actively calls you to conquer and murder other religions. Their book is meant to be taken literally because it is the word of their god. Trying to reform it would be heresy with a death penalty. If you need evidence of how muslims treat christian/jewish minorities (or even other kinds of muslims) just look at what happened in Libya or what is happening today in the Phillipines, or really any part of the world that has ever had a muslim majority.
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Pawl posted:The hypothetical situation you are describing could never be achieved because Islam actively calls you to conquer and murder other religions. Their book is meant to be taken literally because it is the word of their god. Trying to reform it would be heresy with a death penalty. This is actual fact.
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Helical Nightmares posted:Interview with ER nurse Wow, people getting injured by explosions sounds really bad. Good thing we would never kill any children with explosives. I take back the Navy SEAL part. I'm sure those kids were all felled by precision headshots.
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Agag posted:Wow, people getting injured by explosions sounds really bad. Good thing we would never kill any children with explosives. false equivalency is loving WOKE!
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lol but seriously I posted:What are your actual practical suggestions? Start deporting anyone who is on a watchlist
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:"Their civilians" I thought racial and civilization loyalty was a big thing with you guys?
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Agag posted:Wow, people getting injured by explosions sounds really bad. Good thing we would never kill any children with explosives. You're an idiot.
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Countdown to UK banning nails, screws, bolts, nuts, and bearings
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Hmm a thread about children being slaughtered at a concert in Britain. I know, I'll rant about US foreign policy.
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Snatch Duster posted:false equivalency is loving WOKE! Its literally exactly the same.
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Agag posted:Its literally exactly the same. You're literally retarded.
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Agag posted:Its literally exactly the same. Obama was drone striking children's concerts on purpose?
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Testikles posted:I read it. I'm just saying he's acting like the New Testament exists in a vacuum. Jesus might have said that the things he said were the new rules, but people frequently go back to the Old Testament when they need a reason for something. Examples you can provide of this happening?
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Obama was drone striking children's concerts on purpose? Stop posting.
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Start deporting anyone who is on a watchlist Would a country actually take back a 2nd generation immigrant suspected of terrorism?
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Agag posted:Wow, people getting injured by explosions sounds really bad. Good thing we would never kill any children with explosives. using whataboutism as a talking point in TYOOL 2017. such a shameful display
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Jeza posted:Exclusionary monotheistic religion that believes in an afterlife, being good to one another, adhering to a bunch of arbitrary rules. Mandatory attendance of religious centres, a hierarchical and insular clergy system, internal disputes and sects. Hell, even the books and history overlap a lot. Some of the characters are the same. Both very large with roughly the same shelf-life and tendency to poo poo on people who don't believe what they believe. A lot of that is just cosmetic. What actual doctrines are the same? Also, what books "overlap"? And beyond names, what characters are the same?
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revmoo posted:Hmm a thread about children being slaughtered at a concert in Britain. I know, I'll rant about US foreign policy. I wouldn't confine it to any particular country. There is a global slaughter of children that is perpetrated by Western armed forces, terrorist organizations, and Middle Eastern client states in unison. Perhaps the only thing everyone sees eye-to-eye on. If we stop killing children maybe the sun won't rise tomorrow. Can't risk it.
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Testikles posted:It'd be the correct way to put it, but you're acting as if modern day Christians eschew the entirety of the Old Testament. It's outdated in relation to Jesus but at the same time it still influences Christianity and does find its way in the justification of things. I'm sure they pick out the bits they like and ignore the bad parts. Why would that not be ok?
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revmoo posted:This is just straight up wrong. First, other religions don't condone violence directly in their religious texts like Islam. Second, fuckers in Sweden and poo poo are getting hit by these atrocities that have nothing to do with US foreign policy. I mean, Germany welcomed how many refugees with open arms? The wonderful thing about belief systems is that people pick and choose what they wish to believe in. Much like how vast swathes of the Bible are now just ignored as metaphor or just plain ignored, the same is true in Islam. If anything, their system of religious texts is even more ambiguous and open to interpretation than Christianity, meaning people can interpret what they like to further their own goals. While I don't give two tosses about Islamic beliefs, it's weird to characterise it as especially rotten. It just has the power and numbers to strike back against a Western hegemony, so it will. Push one way and the other side will swing back. More than 99% of Muslims seem to be totally compatible with a free and peaceful society to me. It's a fact that refugees, even those welcomed into countries, rarely respond with gratitude. Mostly they feel isolated and rejected, and often many are resentful that their homes have been destroyed. They generally live in near total poverty and are reliant for years on a begrudging state infrastructure that does not really want them, and a population that resents them as parasites. That's sad but that's life. People will commit atrocities based on their circumstances, and not really give a poo poo about the geographic rationality of it or whether Sweden committed anti-Islamic war crimes. If you're an early 20s Muslim man from some blown out shithole in Syria with a lot of anger to burn, there's a chance you are going to channel that anger into extremist religion and politics. It's inevitable. You can see that first generation immigrants are actually more extreme than people from their native countries. It's historically shown again and again. It usually takes 2-3 generations before properly harmonious integration happens, and there are a lot of factors to speed or slow that down.
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Collateral damage of children being used as shields by coward terrorists, totally the same as intentionally targeting children at a concert with nail bombs. Mmmmm, yes.
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Agag posted:I wouldn't confine it to any particular country. There is a global slaughter of children that is perpetrated by Western armed forces, terrorist organizations, and Middle Eastern client states in unison. Perhaps the only thing everyone sees eye-to-eye on. See, maybe I'd agree, but the omelet we've made with all these dead kids tastes pretty drat good to me.
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