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Snatch Duster posted:I say that the US pulls out of NATO and let's Russia run Europe of a bit. I was under the impression they already kinda sorta do thanks to oil.
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Tallgeese posted:The very idea that Bernie wouldn't have won flies in the face of reason. Bernie didn't even win the democratic primary in the entire rust belt, he wouldn't have won
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May 24, 2017 21:30
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Zippy the Bummer posted:If Bernie wasn't hosed by a corrupt slanted system, he could have won, but I'm asking how that means that he is the most popular politician Approval ratings.
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May 24, 2017 21:36
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Zippy the Bummer posted:If Bernie wasn't hosed by a corrupt slanted system, he could have won, but I'm asking how that means that he is the most popular politician According to this "Harvard-Harris poll" making the rounds he's the most popular politician in the US as of April http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Harvard-CAPS-Harris-Poll-April-Wave-Topline-Favorability-04.18.2017.pdf http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-bernie-sanders-is-most-popular-u-s-politician/
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Zippy the Bummer posted:If Bernie wasn't hosed by a corrupt slanted system, he could have won, but I'm asking how that means that he is the most popular politician It doesn't. The thing I was going to link but bone to pick beat me to, that is where we're getting our information from. edit: Here's something fun to look at, too: https://morningconsult.com/senate-approval-bernie-rubio-cruz/ 4 states have BOTH of their senators in the top 10 most popular lists. Including my Minnesotan ones of Al Franken and Amy Klobuchar. <3
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Apoplexy posted:edit: Here's something fun to look at, too: https://morningconsult.com/senate-approval-bernie-rubio-cruz/ Wow, that's actually really encouraging seeing 2 independents at the top of the list.
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Apoplexy posted:It doesn't. The thing I was going to link but bone to pick beat me to, that is where we're getting our information from. Minnesota Bestasota
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blugu64 posted:Bernie didn't have a chance against Trump This is true, Bernie wouldn't have screamed lock her up or bigly or had a two syllable slogan for the less intelligent people to latch on to, the nation's IQ was against him
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May 24, 2017 21:57
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blugu64 posted:Bernie didn't have a chance against Trump Trump would never have won if not for disenfranchised Bernie supporters.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:This is true, Bernie wouldn't have screamed lock her up or bigly or had a two syllable slogan for the less intelligent people to latch on to, the nation's IQ was against him Right. People wouldn't vote for Bernie because they don't understand anything more complex than two syllables. That's why they elected Barack Obama to two terms.
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mgreen42 posted:Right. People wouldn't vote for Bernie because they don't understand anything more complex than two syllables. It's why they elected Trump now, hth
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Mordor She Wrote posted:It's why they elected Trump now, hth Most people stayed home leaving only the retards to vote, hth
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Mordor She Wrote posted:It's why they elected Trump now, hth So why did so many of those Midwesterners vote for Obama in 2008/2012, and then Trump? Widespread brain trauma in 2015, or maybe, just maybe......?
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mgreen42 posted:So why did so many of those Midwesterners vote for Obama in 2008/2012, and then Trump? Widespread brain trauma in 2015, or maybe, just maybe......? People moving in an increasingly politically stratified nation? Clinton got almost the exact same number of votes as Obama in 2012, 2016s turnout was barely lower.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:People moving in an increasingly politically stratified nation? Clinton got almost the exact same number of votes as Obama in 2012, 2016s turnout was barely lower. https://twitter.com/jonathanwebber/status/796448989931417600
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Mordor She Wrote posted:People moving in an increasingly politically stratified nation? Clinton got almost the exact same number of votes as Obama in 2012, 2016s turnout was barely lower. It's possible, thought it's more important to look at the distribution than the aggregate, because NY and CA skew. But it's hard to deny: http://www.cnbc.com/heres-a-map-of-the-us-counties-that-flipped-to-trump-from-democrats/ The +20 county in Northeast Ohio is my hometown - the last Democrat to lose Trumbull was ah... Al Smith.
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My mistake, Trumbull actually voted for a _non-incumbent_ Republican for the first time since Al Smith. Still, that means they voted for Adlai, Humphrey, and Mondale, and yet Hillary Clinton was a bridge too far. Lol.
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to be extremely pedantic, the 2016 figures in that chart are from before the votes were completely counted and so a little lower than the final numbers. that being said, the claim that less people voted overall is correct (ref. eg. wikipedia, order by date). clinton got less votes than obama did, not only in the enthusiastic 2008 election but also his 2012 reelection. the folks who consistently vote R kept coming out - don didn't get many more votes than romney did - and the people enthused by obama being impossibly charismatic somehow couldn't turn out for clinton, in conclusion, bernie would have won, and to deny this is foolishness. tormp piss + namaste
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/new-democrats?utm_term=.afaxOg8JR#.nvwbzJ2pv some confirmation bias, but something that i as a trump supporter hopes for. the comments of hillbots slamming bernie are amazing!
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Zippy the Bummer posted:I hate Hillary. Watching her nosedive directly into the bald rock dome of Mount Fail, complete with that droning dive-bomber sound, and explode in a glorious fireball was one of the most satisfying experiences of my life
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i loathe everything trump stands for and i think he represents everything that is wrong with america, but i'll always give him credit for blowing my mind on election night like drat holy poo poo Yea i couldn't stop laughing. My wife and I were watching MSNBC on the television, streaming TYT (which was epic meltdowns), and Fox News on the other laptop. My second favorite thing behind TYT melting down was the 30 minutes where MSNBC obviously didn't have anything on the teleprompters for trump winning like this, so the talking heads tried to rationalize how this happen live on the air. In that 30 minutes, you actually saw the real people, not the corporate persona crafted by the news station.
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Snatch Duster posted:Yea i couldn't stop laughing. My wife and I were watching MSNBC on the television, streaming TYT (which was epic meltdowns), and Fox News on the other laptop. My second favorite thing behind TYT melting down was the 30 minutes where MSNBC obviously didn't have anything on the teleprompters for trump winning like this, so the talking heads tried to rationalize how this happen live on the air. In that 30 minutes, you actually saw the real people, not the corporate persona crafted by the news station. we first go to an election night party for a (hispanic) socialist city council candidate (who won) and while they weren't happy, they were more level-headed and steely about it. mostly hispanic and black crowd. like "drat. it's over. oh well" and onwards with the people's struggle. after that, after stopping to pick up some food, we drove to a house with their (white) feminist friends. walk in we meet a group of people wearing hillary t-shirts sitting shell-shocked and weepy around a TV. i immediately recognized this situation as not good so made a hasty retreat into the garage to eat my meal. later one of the girls grabbed a trump pinata and a baseball bat, ran into the backyard and started smashing it on the ground while screaming YOU SON OF A BITCH! as the bat made a WHAP WHAP WHAP sound. true story BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 23:33 on May 24, 2017 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i was visiting some friends in another city and it was pouring raining. like one of those southern rainstorms that just dumps on you for four hours straight at a time. i love my friends but also keep in mind that i'm a backbiting bad person and they are like real-life SJWs, so imagine me driving these people around who are freaking out and inconsolable while it's POURING. loving. RAIN. at night. it was a nightmare. My wife was really upset too, even though she hated Hillary i think deep down she wanted her to win but voted Green. She wanted to turn all of it off but I was like "lol no way, this is loving amazing and when do you get to watch history like this happen!?"
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World War Mammories posted:to be extremely pedantic, the 2016 figures in that chart are from before the votes were completely counted and so a little lower than the final numbers. that being said, the claim that less people voted overall is correct (ref. eg. wikipedia, order by date). clinton got less votes than obama did, not only in the enthusiastic 2008 election but also his 2012 reelection. the folks who consistently vote R kept coming out - don didn't get many more votes than romney did - and the people enthused by obama being impossibly charismatic somehow couldn't turn out for clinton, Clinton's numbers were impressively low considering who she was running against. If Clinton was pitted against Romney her turnout would have been even lower.
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May 25, 2017 00:22
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Franken and Bernie are Jews. They're pretty top-notch awesome fellows. Maybe it's because they're atheist Jews, I dunno if Feinstein is practicing religious or not. She's got just the most awful stances on so many issues, it'd be nice to blame it on her fake god or something instead of the likely truth that she's just an awful person.
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Robo Reagan posted:jew turns out to be scum, news at 11 Apoplexy posted:Franken and Bernie are Jews. They're pretty top-notch awesome fellows. Maybe it's because they're atheist Jews, I dunno if Feinstein is practicing religious or not. She's got just the most awful stances on so many issues, it'd be nice to blame it on her fake god or something instead of the likely truth that she's just an awful person. What the hell
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Also Trump seems fine Dude's name is Mudd.
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Apoplexy posted:Dude's name is Mudd. Look at those lovely intelligence spooks trying to railroad a good American like Trump. Anyone against Trump is a traitor in my book at this point.
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