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power crystals
Jun 6, 2007

Who wants a belly rub??

Dr. Snark posted:

I'm assuming that that will be part of the process of selling them off narratively, but right now I'm more concerned about the mechanical action of "selling" the planes.

We can totally say that when we "sell" them they become part of a display squadron or something but for the love of loving god let's resolve to get rid of these things before we worry about the fine details.

:agreed: those things utterly useless now that we have so many ground strike aircraft. I don't see a point in selling off the A-11s or Mirages because we don't need the money and they aren't actively hazardous to their operators' health.

Dreamsicle posted:

Oh thanks! I'm thinking of writing something up, but I'm not confident at all in my writing abilities.

Hey I expected I was terrible but people seem to enjoy my submissions on average. Go for it.

I assume that Sperwer will be some kind of rotating "nobody wants this" post while MEAT hangs onto that Reaper forever.

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Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

More planes! I preferred this since that means we are not tied to doing ops near water (or risk wasting the investment).

rchandra
Apr 30, 2013


RIP Frog, your armour served Arcee well with the new damage model. Really hoped to upgrade to the rugged A-10 but Strike Commander does need the F-16.

I liked the procurement process. If you fear a tyranny of the majority, just choose a vote at random.

Yeah, probably time to retire the Sk60 and promote their pilots

Quinntan
Sep 11, 2013
Sell AMX and Sk60, set aside the F1s so we can get them upgraded to the F1.EM standard.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Davin Valkri posted:

I'd rather transfer them to their own group operated by HR, akin to Bacarruda's suggestion.

Okay, yeah, mechanically remove them from our OOB.

Anyways, in honor of the winners of the procurement vote...

Don't give me a striker Tornado,
For the wing roots are made out of Play Doh
And when Storm Shadows fly
Over SAMs, I could cry,
Don't give me a striker Tornado!

Don't give me a Viper Hellenic,
So fat that it's prediabetic,
It's hard to dodge flak
With the dead weight in back,
Don't​ give me a Viper Hellenic!

:laffo:

BTW thank you for continuing to do the video transcripts

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Quinntan posted:

Sell AMX and Sk60, set aside the F1s so we can get them upgraded to the F1.EM standard.

Would it be possible to just do both right now?

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Do we have the Atlantique 1 or 2?

Quinntan
Sep 11, 2013

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Would it be possible to just do both right now?

That's up to yooper, I guess. I just want to save them right now so they don't go the way of the frogfoots before we get the chance.

Loel posted:

Do we have the Atlantique 1 or 2?

2

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

orcbuster posted:

A-10 only has 2 Maverick capable hardpoints.



thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!
Huh, a Tornado. Not bad.

Quinntan
Sep 11, 2013

Yeah, the Mavericks are on stations 3 and 9.

Dreamsicle
Oct 16, 2013

False Safety, by Dreamsicle posted:

After the post-Angolan procurement, I was excited to finally have another chance of landing in a CAS plane. I was even more exicted when I learned some of the planes we were getting were F-16s that could drop lots of bombs. One of their loadouts had twelve 500 pound bombs! I wanted to be in one of those things and finally get to do some ground pounding action. I got the call 18 hours later. They told me that I was still assigned to Arcee's new F-16 as a WSO. Needless to say I was drat happy about that. Yeah I didn't get to actually fly, but I was about to help drop bombs on any enemies. That being said, there were some things I was going to miss. MEAT was a cool guy and I was going to make sure that Friar wouldn't give him poo poo. I didn't know it at the time either, but there were going to be days where I missed the relative safety of the base.

The first thing I had to do though was study up on the F-16's WSO controls. I didn't want to mess this up.


Eh, I gave it a go. Hopefully it's not too lovely/boring.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012




Where do we go next?

The Hired Goons have a reputation for both exquisite violence and as a kinder, gentler, more discreet operation. Our capabilities have brought us two new contracts. Both of these will be difficult in different ways. And, if I had to guess, completely different from the conventional violence we experienced in Angola and Tibet. Nation states are ceding ground to corporations, and this is allowing the PMC's in the world to flourish.

Why should the government do the fighting when they can pay someone to do it? Why should the corporations let the government do it when they can get paid to do it? This is working out swell for everyone.

First, the Bering Sea.


Working Map

The more observant of you will notice something. There is, on top of Diomede Island, a nuclear radiation symbol. On the night of July 17th, or as much of a night as it gets in July in Alaska, a small cargo plane flew into the midst of the Iceberg and Mitsuhashi fishing fleets and detonated a nuclear warhead designed to broadcast an omnidirectional EMP. At this point AngerPEACE's flight wing has been knocked out of the sky while Iceberg and Mitsuhashi came to a give and take relationship. Mitsuhashi gave Iceberg poo poo, and Iceberg took it.

AngerPEACE did the only thing they thought they could do to stop the slaughter of the seas. The EMP knocked out every fishing boat in the Bering Sea. It took out two cargo ships, a cruise liner, and three Russian jet liners. Iceberg and Mitsuhashi were stunned. The Russians geared up to thoroughly skullfuck AngerPEACE. AngerPEACE, aghast at what had happened, prepared to leave while expecting an attack.

On the night of July 24th a group of Yupik and Inupiaq natives kayaked to St. Lawrence Island. The group hiked overland through the midst of a summer rain squall. AngerPEACE had all eyes on the North and West, expecting the Russians to come. Instead the soldiers of the Bering Straits Native Corporation slaughtered every single person at the AngerPEACE base.



Bering Straits laid it out. This is their home. Outsiders hosed it up way too bad. They want everyone gone. Now.



Iceberg, being who they are, doubled down. They brought in a new investor, a big investor, a loud investor. Ted Nugent. Now Iceberg is armed, violent, and hankering for another go. They ain't gonna let nobody run them off of "their" land.



Mitsuhashi still has the UN and WTO charter for the Bering Sea. In their eyes they've had no fault in any of this mess.

Expect CAS, CAP, anti-shipping, recon insertions, elint, and patrols. And who knows what the loving Russians are going to do.

And then... Dracula.



Working Map

Janko Perešin built an empire. His started as a meager manufacturing shop after Tito died. Janko had an odd advantage. His father was Serbian while his mother was Croatian. Through the 90's he was able to walk the line and sell weapons to both sides. When the UN embargo struck Janko was in the right place at the right time. Years passed. Janko eventually purchased YugoImport and steered the direction of the greater Yugoslavia. His vision was a united Yugoslavia, not a group of small, weak, balkan states. Then he bought the Greek debt off the Germans and the world realized it had happened. Yugoslavia was back.

On July 22nd 2023 Janko was in his back yard chasing his grandchildren when he suffered a heart attack and died. With him died the cooperation between the four largest eastern european weapons manufacturers. With no clear successor each of the corporations is jockeying for position, patents, talent, and resources. It's not open war. Not at all. In fact discreet is the word here. Instead of a crushing blow with an axe, a stilleto stab in a dozen different places might be more reasonable. Civilian casualties are unacceptable.

All four corporations are hiring private PMC's to fight outside the boardrooms while they struggle to come to a deal inside the board room.

RABA Corp is Hungary's largest weapons manufacturer. They are the smallest in shares, but have the tacit backing of the Austrians. But in order to do anything they need more resources, or to knock out everyone elses resources.

ROMARM is Romanias contribution. They are the largest, but technologically a bit behind. They are also the most likely to roll tanks up into YugoImports HQ and demand a "vote" of the shareholders. ROMARM is 100% owned by the Romanian government but is considered a separate entity in some financial loophole hell.

Arsenal AD is Bulgarias largest weapons manufacturer. They specialize in software and putting old weapons into new roles. A rifle isn't good enough when you can attach a computerized ballistics computer and make everyone a sniper. They've got the brains of the operation.

Finally YugoImport. They are still reeling from Janko's death and struggling to hold control of the entire endeavor. For them it's a vision of a united eastern europe, a vision of some pseudo empire. They are also the richest, by far, and can pull in the muscle of what's left of the Greek military.

Think Shadowrun. Cyberpunk. Operation Screaming Fist. Our missions will range from finding, and killing, armor all the way to inserting a team to kidnap a key engineer, while preventing PMC aircraft from killing her. All sides are well armed and have virtually limitless resources.

Questions? Thoughts? Debate for a day or two and we'll decide where we go.

I have a motion to dispose of the SK60B's and AMX's. Yay? Nay?

Yooper fucked around with this message at 02:50 on May 25, 2017

Dagon
Apr 16, 2003


As the pilot of one, sell the AMXs and SK60Bs and promote me into something flying for the Bering Straits Native Corp.

Dagon fucked around with this message at 02:50 on May 25, 2017

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
8 - JAS 39C Gripen : Meteor & SDB
Type: Generation 4.9 Multirole (Fighter/Attack)
Properties: Terrain Avoidance (300ft/100ft), Fly-by-Wire, Night Navigation, Bombsight - Advanced Navigation (INS/GPS), Probe Refueling
Speed: 350/480/580/925
Radar: 120nm (DECM, 120 nm RWR)

Common Weapon Payloads
A/A Meteor Intercept (180 min, 220 nm): 4x RB 107 Meteor (75 nm), 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm)
Land Standoff Strike (360 min, 530 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 8x GBU-39/B SDB (60 nm)
Naval Standoff Strike (360 min, 180 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 2x RB 15F Mk2 (80 nm) / 2x RB 107 Meteor (75 nm)

The Gripen is our workhorse, providing flexible multirole capabilities for intercept and standoff strike.

4 - F-16DJ Blk 52+ Falcon (Peace Xenia III)
Type: Generation 4.9 Multirole
Properties: Fly-by-Wire, Night Navigation/Attack, Bombsight - Advanced Navigation (INS/GPS), Helmet Mounted Sign / Display, Boom Refueling
Speed: 350/480/580/925
Radar: 60 nm (120 nm RWR, 5 nm MAWS, DECM, 15 nm NVG)

Common Weapon Payloads
A/A AIM-120C-7 (180 min, 200 nm): 2x AIM-2000A IRIS-T (15 nm), 4x AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM (60 nm)
HARM (360 min, 750 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 2x AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM (60 nm), 2x AGM-88B HARM (70 nm)
Standoff Strike (360 min, 390 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 2x AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM (60 nm), 4x AGM-154C JSOW (45 nm)
8000 lbs of Love (360 min, 450 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 2x AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM (60 nm), 4x SPICE 2000 GPS/EO (35 nm)

It can deliver 8000 pounds of guided munitions.

4 - Kfir C.10
Type: Generation 4 Multirole (Fighter/Attack)
Properties: Terrain Avoidance (Land: 300ft, Sea: 100ft), Night Navigation (Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles), Bombsight - Advanced Computering, Probe Refuelling, Boom Refuelling)
Speed: 350/480/580/925
Radar: 80 nm (120 nm RWR)

Common Weapon Payloads
Python A/A (180 min, 150 nm): 4x Python 5 (15 nm)
Derby A/A (180 min, 150 nm): 2x Derby (40 nm), 2x Python 5 (15 nm)
Standoff Strike (600 min, 640 nm): 2x SPICE 1000 GPS/EO (35 nm), 2x Python 5 (15 nm)

While not as effective as the Gripen, these multirole fighters are viable strike or intercept craft.

2 - Mirage F.1CR
Type: Generation 4 Attack
Properties: Night Navigation (Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles), Bombsight - Advanced Computing, Probe Refueling
Speed: 350/480/580/925
Radar: 60 nm (5 nm Visual, 120 nm RWR)

Common Weapon Payloads
Recon (180 min, 550 nm): 1x Barax NG DECM Pod, 1x [Omera 40 Recon Pod (Visual) or Rafael Recon Pod (SLAR) or ASTAC Pod (ESM)]
A/A (180 min, 150 nm, 135 min TOS): 4x R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 (10 nm)
Guided Missile (360 min, 210 nm): 2x R.500 Magic 2 Mk2 (10 nm), 2x AS.30L (6 nm), 1x Barax NG DECM Pod
Guided Bomb (360 min, 275 nm): 2x R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 (10 nm), 2x BGL-400 LGB (4 nm), 1x Barax NG DECM Pod
Guided Bomb (360 min, 350 nm, Day Only, Clear Weather): 2x R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 (10 nm), 4x GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB (4 nm), 1x Barax NG DECM Pod

The Mirage is a flexible ground attack craft that also includes recon capabilities.

10 - Tornado IDS - Saudi Arabia
Type: Generation 3.5 Attack
Properties: Terrain Following (200 / 100), Fly-by-Wire, Night Navigation/Attack, Bombsight - Advanced Navigation (INS/GPS), Probe Refueling
Speed: 350/480/580/925
Radar: 40 nm (120 nm RWR)

Common Weapon Payloads
Land/Naval Standoff Strike (360 min, 1050 nm): 12x Brimstone (16 nm), 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm)
Naval Standoff Strike (600 min, 950 nm): 2x Sea Eagle (60 nm), 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm)
Cruise Missile (360 min, 825 nm): 2x Storm Shadow (215 nm), 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm)
ALARM (600 min, 950 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 5x ALARM Blk 1 (40 nm)

Flexible attack platform with the ability to deploy for a variety of attack scenarios.

3 - Saab SK60B
Type: Generation 1 Whipping Boy Attack
Properties: Bombsight - Ballistic Computing
Speed: 250/340/420
Radar: N/A

Common Weapon Payloads
Rocket (360 min, 375 nm, Day-Only, Limited All-Weather): 12x M/70 135mm Rocket (2nm)

The SK60B is the much maligned ground attack craft that the PMC uses when the skies are safe. The plane has one job; shoot stuff with rockets. Best used against targets that can't shoot back.

6 - F-4E Phantom II - Greek
Type: Generation 3.5 Multirole (Fighter/Attack)
Properties: Night Navigation (Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles), Bombsight - Ballistic Computing, Boom Refueling
Speed: 350/480/580/925
Radar: 80 nm (120 nm RWR)

Common Weapon Payloads
A/A AMRAAM (180 min, 150 nm, 130 min TOS): 4x AIM-9L Sidewinder (10 nm), 4x AIM-120B AMRAAM (40 nm)
Land Strike (360 min, 450 nm): 2x AIM-120B AMRAAM (40 nm), 2x GBU-10E/B Paveway II LGB (4 nm) 1x AN/ALQ-119 ECM Pod
Bomb Truck (360 min, 240 nm): 2x AIM-120B AMRAAM (40 nm), 12x Mk82 500lb LDGP (1 nm), 1x AN/ALQ-119 ECM Pod

The F-4E is a workhorse bomb truck, not ideally suited for air-combat but excellent for delivering a large quantity of munitions to a target in ground support.

2 - AMX
Type: Generation 3 Attack
Properties: Fly-by-Wire, Night Navigation (Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles), Bombsight - Ballistic Computing, Probe Refueling
Speed: 350/480/570
Radar: 0 nm (30 nm Infrared, 120 nm RWR)

Common Weapon Payloads
A/A (180 min, 150 nm, 120 min TOS, Day Only): 4x AIM-9L Sidewinder (10 nm)
Counter-Runway (360 min, 480 nm, Day Only): 2x AIM-9L Sidewinder (10 nm), 4x Durandal (1 nm)
Guided Missile (360 min, 510 nm, Day Only): 2x AIM-9L Sidewinder (10 nm), 2x AGM-65 Maverick EO (6 nm)
Guided Bomb (360 min, 505 nm, Clear Weather): 2x AIM-9L Sidewinder (10 nm), 2x GBU-16B/B Paveway II LGB (4 nm)
JDAM (360 min, 520 nm): 2x AIM-9L Sidewinder (10 nm), 2x GBU-32(V)1/B JDAM (12 nm)

The AMX is a multi-purpose ground attack craft.

1 - EA-6B Prowler
Type: Generation 2.5 Electronic Warfare
Properties: Night Navigation (Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles), Probe Refuelling
Speed: 300/415/570
Radar: 150 nm (500 nm ESM)

Common Weapon Payloads
Short Range Jammer (360 min, 650 nm): 5x AN/ALQ-991 ECM Pod
HARM (360 min, 550 nm): 1x AGM-88C HARM (70 nm), 4x AN/ALQ-991 ECM Pod

Arguably one of the most valuable assets in the company, the Prowler provides crucial jamming support for operations.

1 - BR.1150 Atlantique 2
Type: Maritime Patrol Aircraft
Properties: Fly-by-Wire, Night Navigation/Attack, Bombsight - Advanced Navigation (INS/GPS), Helmet Mounted Sign / Display, Boom Refueling
Speed: 170/315/350
Radar: 240 nm (1 nm MAD, 500 nm ELINT, 30 nm Visual, 30 nm Infrared, 15 nm Laser Designator)

Common Weapon Payloads
Torpedoes (240 min, 600 nm, 480 min TOS): 8x MU-90 Impact (4 nm)
Naval Standoff Strike (360 min, 1500 nm): 2x AM.39 Exocet Blk II (36 nm)
Land/Naval Standoff Strike (60 min, 2350 nm): 4x GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk 82] (4 nm)

Maritime murder machine.

1 - Saab S 100B
Type: Airborne Early Warning
Properties: Night Navigation (Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles)
Speed: 180/285/350
Radar: 350 nm (500 nm ESM)
Range: 780 nm

The S 100B provides crucial radar coverage for company operations.

1 - MQ-9 Reaper
Type: Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle
Properties: Night Navigation (Bomb, Rocket Delivery)
Speed: 120/170/260
Radar: 45 nm (15 nm Laser Designator, 100 nm IR/EO)

Common Weapon Payloads
Strike (1450 nm): 4x AGM-114K Hellfire II (5 nm), 2x GBU-49/B Paveway II (4 nm)
Recon (1600 nm): 2x Gorgon Stare Increment 2 Sensor Pod

While the Reaper does possess the ability to carry weapons, it's ability to identify targets and provide remote lasing has been proven to be far more useful.

1 - Sperwer UAV
Type: Unmanned Aerial Vehicle
Properties: Night Navigation (Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles)
Speed: 60/95/100
Radar: 0 nm (30 nm CCD, 30 nm FLIR, 20 nm Laser Rangefinder)
Range: 270 nm

Generally regarded as disposable (as disposable as a $1.5M asset can be) the Sperwer is a remote recon craft.

1 - C-130E
Type: Transport
Properties: Night Navigation (Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles), Boom Refueling
Speed: 210/325/350
Radar: 50 nm

The C-130 is a ubiquitous cargo aircraft capable of surviving in nearly any environment. At some point we should strap guns to it.

1 - CN235 Cargo Plane
Type: Transport
Properties: Night Navigation (Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles)
Speed: 185/245/260
Radar: 35 nm (Weather and Navigation Only)

We got this to start with otherwise we'd probably have another C-130.

1 - KC-135R Stratotanker
Type: Tanker (Air Refueling)
Properties: Night Navigation (Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles), Wing Drogue, Centerline Boom
Speed: 230/480/520
Radar: 40 nm (Weather and Navigation Only)
Range: 3900 nm (Tanker)

We probably don't want this to blow up.

1 - VC10.K4
Type: Tanker (Air Refueling)
Properties: Night Navigation (Air-to-Air, Air-to-Surface Missiles), Probe Refueling, Centerline Drogue, Wing Drogue
Speed: 230/480/510
Radar: 35 nm (Weather and Navigation Only)
Range: 3090 nm (Tanker)

Losing this would also be bad.

2 - SA-22
Radar: 30nm (Acquisition), 100 nm (LLTV), 100 nm (IR), 15 nm (Tracking)
Weapons: SA-22 Greyhound (10 nm), 30mm 2A38M (1 nm)

2 - ZSU-23-4
Radar: 27 nm
Weapons: 23mm ZSU-23-4 Shilka (0.8 nm)

1 - I-HAWK
Radar: 45 nm (Radar), 80 nm (Visual)
Weapons: MIM-23K- I-HAWK ELM (22 nm)


Anti-Air Munitions
RB 107 Meteor (5 nm AR, 2016): 75 nm, 2650 kts, 95% Air PK, 12 Damage
AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM (5 nm AR, 2007): 60 nm, 2500 kts, 95% Air PK, 3 Damage
AIM-2000A IRIS-T/RB 98 (10 nm IR, 2007): 15 nm, 1800 kts, 95% Air PK, 4 Damage
Python 5 (10 nm IR, 2005): 15 nm, 1770 kts, 95% Air PK, 4 Damage [HOB]
Derby (5 nm AR, 2002): 40 nm, 2375 kts, 95% Air PK, 4 Damage
R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 (10 nm IR, 1997): 10 nm, 1300 kts, 95% Air PK, 4 Damage
AIM-120B AMRAAM (5 nm AR, 1996): 40 nm, 2375 kts, 90% Air PK, 3 Damage
AIM-9L Sidewinder (10 nm IR, 1980): 10 nm, 1475 kts, 85% Air PK, 1 Damage

Short Range Strike
GBU-32(V)1/B JDAM (INS w/ GPS, 2006): 12 nm, 530 kts, 10% CEP, 303 Damage
Brimstone (5 nm AR, 2006): 16 nm, 820 kts, 2% CEP, 95% Surface PK, 8 Damage HEAT
MU-90 Impact (1 nm TS, 2003): 4 nm, 30/55 kts, 85% Subsurface PK, 59 Damage
GBU-49/B Paveway II GPS/LGB (0 nm LST, INS w/ GPS, 2001): 4 nm, 530 kts, 2% CEP, 85% Surface PK, 131 Damage
AM.39 Exocet Blk II (5 nm AR, 10 nm PRAR, 1995): 36 nm, 620 kts, 90% Surface PK, 165 Damage
ALARM Blk 1 (40 nm PRAR, 1991): 40 nm, 1800 kts, 5% CEP, 90% Surface PK, 18 Damage
AS.30L (15 nm LST, 1989): 6 nm, 875 kts, 2% CEP, 85% Surface PK, 240 Damage
BGL-400 LGB (8 nm LST, 1986): 4 nm, 530 kts, 2% CEP, 85% Surface PK, 260 Damage
AGM-114K Hellfire II (15 nm LST, 1984): 5 nm, 800 kts, 2% CEP, 90% Surface PK, 8 Damage
Durandal (1978): 1 nm, 50% CEP, ??% Surface PK, 150 Damage HTP
AGM-65B Maverick EO (10 nm EO, 1976): 6 nm, 800 kts, 2% CEP, 85% PK, 66 Damage AP
GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB (0 nm LST, 1976): 4 nm, 530 kts, 2% CEP, 85% Surface PK, 130 Damage
GBU-10E/B Paveway II LGB (0 nm LST, 1976): 4 nm, 530 kts, 2% CEP, 85% Surface PK, 644 Damage
GBU-16B/B Paveway II LGB (0 nm LST, 1976): 4 nm, 530 kts, 2% CEP, 85% Surface PK, 303 Damage
Mk82 500lb LDGP (1954): 1 nm, 50% CEP, 99% Surface PK, 131 Damage

Standoff Strike
GBU-39/B SDB (INS w/ GPS, 2006): 60 nm, 530 kts, 10% CEP, ?? Surface PK, 140 Damage
SPICE 1000 GPS/EO (10 nm IR, INS w/ GPS, 2005): 35 nm, 530 kts, 2% CEP, 95% Surface PK, 303 Damage
SPICE 2000 GPS/EO (10 nm IR, INS w/ GPS, 2005): 35 nm, 530 kts, 2% CEP, 95% Surface PK, 644 Damage
AGM-154C JSOW (10 nm IR, INS w/ GPS, 2004): 45 nm, 530 kts, 2% CEP, 95% Surface PK, 454 Damage HTP
Storm Shadow (10 nm IR, INS w/ GPS, 2003): 215 nm, 550 kts, 2% CEP, 681 Damage HTP
RB 15F Mk2 (5 nm AR, 10 nm PRAR, 2002): 80 nm, 600 kts, 90% Surface PK, 300 Damage
AGM-88C HARM (70 nm PSAR, 1994): 70 nm, 2000 kts, 5% CEP, 90% Surface PK, 65 Damage
Sea Eagle (5 nm AR, 10 nm PRAR, INS, 1986): 60 nm, 565 kts, 85% Surface PK, 230 Damage

Trackers
IR: Infrared Seeker
AR: Active Radar Seeker
LST: Laser Spot Tracker
INS w/ GPS: Inertial Navigation System w/ GPS
PRAR: Passive Radar, Anti-Radiation
EO: Electro-Optic (Visual)
TS: Torpedo Seeker

Munitions
HEAT: High Explosive Anti-Tank
AP: Armor Piercing
HTP: Hard Target Penetrator

Beer4TheBeerGod fucked around with this message at 03:53 on May 25, 2017

koolkevz666
Aug 22, 2015
I'm liking the look of the Bering Strait over Romania. No civilian casualties makes my job useless.

That said I have a few questions about Operation Bone Harpoon if it is okay to ask?

1) What forces do each of the three factions possess in the AO?
2) Other than Russia is any other large country looking to intervene, we had word of a US carrier group leaving could it return?
3) What do we know about Russia's actions during this conflict so far?
4) What is each factions thoughts of civilian property damage and deaths?

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Aw man, RIP AngerPEACE you were too good for this world.

Eastern Europe seems like a really good way to get involved in a little bit too much ethnic cleansing/centuries-old conflicts for my taste. Helping the natives decolonize themselves in the Bering Sea, however, seems like the happy confluence of an actual noble cause and an excuse to kill capitalists that gets me 100% on-board.

Anta
Mar 5, 2007

What a nice day for a gassing
Keep AMX, sell (spin-off?) SK60Bs

power crystals
Jun 6, 2007

Who wants a belly rub??

Sell SK60s Only

I'm agreeing with the Strait.


CEP (Circular Error Probable) should be measured in distance, not percentage; CMANO's unit is likely nautical miles.

e: wait, 2nm would be enormous. Meters? I have no idea.

e2:

Dreamsicle posted:

Eh, I gave it a go. Hopefully it's not too lovely/boring.

Seems a reasonable introduction to the character to me!

power crystals fucked around with this message at 03:03 on May 25, 2017

Quinntan
Sep 11, 2013
Sell AMX and Sk60b

The two least capable strike aircraft in the fleet. Let's be rid of them.

Got to go for the Bering Sea, whichever one pays most.

Dreamsicle
Oct 16, 2013

power crystals posted:

CEP (Circular Error Probable) should be measured in distance, not percentage; CMANO's unit is likely nautical miles.

e: wait, 2nm would be enormous. Meters? I have no idea.

Don't have access to CMANO ATM, but IIRC, in the actual in game database, CEP is measured in meters.

EDIT: Made my choices, Sell the SK60s and let's go to the Bering Sea.

Also thanks, power crystals.

Dreamsicle fucked around with this message at 03:14 on May 25, 2017

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia
Sell the SK 60s'

Lets go to the Balkans!


Think about it, we help the big Balkan arms guy, we can score some sweet Greek frigates. This makes bote faction happy and the optimizers happy since we'd get good ships.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
Bering Straits Native Corp sounds like our kind of people.

Just as importantly, gently caress Ted Nugent and gently caress Japanese whalers.

Sell the SK60s before we get there though. Our new display team can put them to good use. AMXs too, for that matter.

The Sandman fucked around with this message at 03:28 on May 25, 2017

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Bering Straits Native Corp

Let's gently caress up some whalers and that prick Ted Nugent.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Yooper posted:

I have a motion to dispose of the SK60B's and AMX's. Yay? Nay?

I endorse selling the SK60Bs and AMX's. Preferably with the option to do something with the funds, like upgrade an airframe (I like Quintann's idea to upgrade the Mirages to the F.1EM) or to use the funds to get something that would be appropriate for the region we're doing operations in.

Also I'm down for the Bering sea and helping Eskimo Commandos take back what's theirs, but working for Arsenal AD sounds fun too.

orcbuster
May 17, 2017

I say we help Either Hungary to gain favours with western Europe and to screw with serbians, or The Natives corp to get our hands on that sweet sweet Alaskan oil monies. Also gently caress Ted Nugent.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

power crystals posted:

CEP (Circular Error Probable) should be measured in distance, not percentage; CMANO's unit is likely nautical miles.

I just did what the wiki linked. If it's meters then I'll fix it. Watch it be something hilarious like the percentage of a nautical mile.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I was really eager to vote for Dracula's Dad for the name alone but really, gently caress Ted Nugent.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

Crazycryodude posted:

Aw man, RIP AngerPEACE you were too good for this world.

Eastern Europe seems like a really good way to get involved in a little bit too much ethnic cleansing/centuries-old conflicts for my taste. Helping the natives decolonize themselves in the Bering Sea, however, seems like the happy confluence of an actual noble cause and an excuse to kill capitalists that gets me 100% on-board.

Amazingly, you're right. Let's put that new Atlantique to good use. Bering Sea.

As to the planes, I'd still rather transfer them to either Angola or our spinoff squadron, but I assent to removing the SK-60Bs and AMXs from our OOB. For Yooper and his sanity.

orcbuster
May 17, 2017

I vote against removing the SK-60Bs and AMXs.

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Sell the SK60s

Oh man this is such a good choice. Im going to need to think about it.

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat
Axe the SK 60's and help the Bearing Straits Native Corp.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


For now please just pick a theater. Then I can provide more information on the factions at that point. The official "vote" wasn't to be until tomorrow, but why not get it rolling eh?

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Sell the Sk60s and AMXs

As for location...Balkans. It sounds to me like it would be maximum Electrosphere AND maximum Armored Core at the same time if we worked there. How could you say no to that!?

Plus in all sincerity there's probably going to be more variety in missions as opposed to the Bering Sea where it would always be some flavor of "go to here, blow up bote and planes near bote," or "make sure they don't blow up our bote."

Dr. Snark fucked around with this message at 03:23 on May 25, 2017

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Ah, Bering Strait then.

Groggy nard
Aug 6, 2013

How does into botes?
I wasn't voting against the idea of bote, I was just voting against anything less than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ponce_(LPD-15)

Bering Straits

rchandra
Apr 30, 2013


Bering Sea

orcbuster
May 17, 2017

Bering straits

Quinntan
Sep 11, 2013
Reasons to sell the Sk60s

1) no guided ordnance
2) what ordnance they have couldn't hit the broad side of a barn
3) zero defensive capabilities

Reasons to sell the AMXs

1) only other subsonic combat aircraft in the fleet; makes them slow to respond to emergencies
2) really limited precision ordnance load: two paveways or two jdams or two mavericks
3) not particularly manoeuvrable; makes them easier to hit by AAA or SHORAD

They're the worst aircraft in the fleet and we should make some money off of them before they get shot down.

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Paingod556
Nov 8, 2011

Not a problem, sir

Bering Sea, gently caress those arms manufacturers


Also interested in seeing if Russia responds with their Kamchatka laser

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