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The season 4 big bad is going to threaten the very existence of the speed force. Speed Force releases Barry to save the day at end of episode 1/2. He spends the season doing so.
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:The season 4 big bad is going to threaten the very existence of the speed force. Speed Force releases Barry to save the day at end of episode 1/2. He spends the season doing so. With amnesia of course. It went over so well this season they'll make it so he doesn't know who he is or how to use his powers. #BartsBack
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May 25, 2017 02:37
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Wait, can someone explain to me exactly why there always needs to be a speedster in the speed-force prison? I mean, I get the speed-force went nuts when Jay got out, but... why did it go nuts? What's the plot device here?
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May 25, 2017 03:39
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Cosmic Treadmill. Gotta keep the speedforce going.
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May 25, 2017 03:42
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:The season 4 big bad is going to threaten the very existence of the speed force. Speed Force releases Barry to save the day at end of episode 1/2. He spends the season doing so. bah since they are going to commit to another speedster, have it be wally's lab rat from college.  :p
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May 25, 2017 03:51
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Rohaq posted:why Rohaq posted:speed-force Rohaq posted:I get the speed-force, but... why Come on man. How many times do we have to post the gif?
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May 25, 2017 03:52
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I mean I kinda get why Barry is in the speed force, they need him to balanace out all the stupid poo poo he has done and Barry feels the need to replace Jay because its no one's fault but Barry's (sorta) the Speedforce is out of whack. Still, its kinda dick to Barry.
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May 25, 2017 03:58
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Oh don't worry he'll be out of prison within an episode or two to defeat another secret speedster.
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May 25, 2017 03:59
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Invalid Validation posted:Oh don't worry he'll be out of prison within an episode or two to defeat another secret speedster. I dunno about that. We've got one show that has a supporting cast but no lead, and another show with a lead but no supporting cast...
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May 25, 2017 04:01
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Guy Goodbody posted:I dunno about that. We've got one show that has a supporting cast but no lead, and another show with a lead but no supporting cast... I'm all for a main character swap. Slade hanging out with Cisco while Barry solves every Arrow problem in a 30 minute sitcom.
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May 25, 2017 05:11
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Rohaq posted:Wait, can someone explain to me exactly why there always needs to be a speedster in the speed-force prison? They built it into a load-bearing pillar of the speedforce, pretty much.
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May 25, 2017 05:27
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Bruceski posted:They built it into a load-bearing pillar of the speedforce, pretty much. Something something "I ain't gotta explain poo poo."
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May 25, 2017 05:47
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I really feel like they should have to explain something
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May 25, 2017 05:48
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If destroying the Black Flash is as easy as shooting a freeze beam at it and Flashpoint Eobard doesn't give a gently caress about time anymore because he's already being chased by BF and outrunning his paradox then yeah sorry, it's time to explain some poo poo.
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May 25, 2017 06:05
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You're making assumptions that the Black Flash is actually gone for good.
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May 25, 2017 06:33
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Bruceski posted:They built it into a load-bearing pillar of the speedforce, pretty much. I like to think that before Flashpoint the speedprison didn't exist, but once Barry hosed the timeline sideways it always existed as a constant in the Speedforce in the new timeline. So just another thing Barry's ruined with his shenanigans.
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May 25, 2017 06:47
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McSpanky posted:If destroying the Black Flash is as easy as shooting a freeze beam at it and Flashpoint Eobard doesn't give a gently caress about time anymore because he's already being chased by BF and outrunning his paradox then yeah sorry, it's time to explain some poo poo. Spped. Force. Say it with me now. Speed. Force.
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May 25, 2017 07:03
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howe_sam posted:I would be so down for the show using empathy to solve the problem for once. Mooseontheloose posted:I have real problems with the way they write the speed force in this show. Thawne and Zolomon can do what the gently caress ever but it seems to want to punish Barry forever and ever and ever and ever... nine-gear crow posted:Or flip the whole thing on its head. Create a time remnant and go "dude, love her with all your heart, be a great friend to everyone, and be a better Flash than I was. Laters!" and then fling himself into the Speed Force and then just follow that Barry for the rest of the show and all the wacky CW DramaTM guaranteed to come about because of it. ChristopherRobin posted:Except instead of Barry creating a time remnant, during the final battle they actually get through to Savitar and figure out how to keep him in existence through SPEEDFORCE. Then the ending plays through exactly the same way except instead of Barry going into the speedforce it's Savitar by choice to save everyone. It'd be a good redemption story flip on them trapping him there. HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Say it with me now.
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May 25, 2017 07:11
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Rohaq posted:Wait, can someone explain to me exactly why there always needs to be a speedster in the speed-force prison? Because two lines of dialogue from people who didn't make the thing in the first place and don't actually know anything about it said so
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May 25, 2017 07:57
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Keep Barry locked in the Speed Force for a while. Then give us Impulse, played by Grant Gustin in a terrible wig. And bring back Cowboy Wells, drat it!
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May 25, 2017 10:00
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I wish that Savatar lived and Barry still got sucked into the speed force, that way next season would have barry gone and evil barry showing up for occasional douchebaggery. Also evil Caitlin who became not evil but not good but still a different person because *coldforce* runaway dog fucked around with this message at 10:07 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 10:05
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I think it's obvious what's going to happen. Grant Gustin is gonna show up next season on Agents of Shield as Buried Alien  "Marvel Database" posted:
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May 25, 2017 10:54
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Should have put black flash in the speed force prison
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May 25, 2017 11:58
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Nameless Pete posted:And bring back Cowboy Wells, drat it! Get French Wells and have everyone keep referring to him as a mime, with him just going "What do you people think a mime is? Does that word mean something different on this Earth?  "
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May 25, 2017 12:29
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That was a whole lot of bafflegab, some of it satisfying, some of it not. It feels like by giving Barry a "redemption" they're sort of rebooting him so they can go back to simpler, more season 1ish Flash shenanigans for next season which is a great idea. I wish they hadn't complicated-up all their Speed Force and time travel business because these things can be a really fun way to spice up or limit stories (like when Mark Waid wrote the book and introduced the Speed Force idea) but hopefully they can leave it alone now.
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May 25, 2017 13:16
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Nothing But Hate posted:Should have put black flash in the speed force prison Nah, instead they just murdered Black Flash.
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May 25, 2017 14:21
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So Thawne instantly disappears when Eddie dies but Evil Berry gets to have a mini murder vacation.
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May 25, 2017 14:24
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Hollismason posted:This was a good way to end the series.
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May 25, 2017 14:45
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Dongattack posted:Finally shes dead, hope they never bring her back. God, what a boring character. Hope everything implodes now that she's gone and Barry eventually hooks up with Kara, his one true waifu. We were so close 
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May 25, 2017 14:46
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shades of eternity posted:enzo matrix as a wwe fan the collision here made my brain freeze up for a sec
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May 26, 2017 00:07
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Invalid Validation posted:So Thawne instantly disappears when Eddie dies but Evil Berry gets to have a mini murder vacation. OG Eobard was standing right next to Eddie when he shot himself so there was no time lag for the time paradox to catch up with him and microwave him out of existence. hosed Up Flashpoint Time Remnant Eobard spent months trying to outrun the time paradox by leaping all over time so it couldn't catch up with him. Or whatever. Speedforce. I ain't gotta explain shi 
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May 26, 2017 02:57
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Okay, I understand what a closed time loop is, but my question is: what did Flashpoint have to do with Savitar's origin? Flashpoint was the source of Savitar's recruitment drive, sure, but the whole closed loop thing that took up the latter half of the season could just as easily have happened without Flashpoint. Barry's responsible for all the little changes in time, but how is our present Barry responsible for Savitar? lol who am I kidding I know the answer is Speedforce
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May 26, 2017 06:12
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The answer is always some variation of: "Uh uh, uh..."
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May 26, 2017 07:05
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I think flashpoint is just the mechanism by which Savitar was able to escape from the prison in which Barry trapped him the first time round - by enabling him to create Wally. Or some such thing
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May 26, 2017 07:09
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Flashpoint did enough to change Barry's timeline that it led to Julian, and Alchemy, and subsequently Savitar and the loop. They should have done more to dig into this concept, but Flashpoint basically remade Earth 1 into another alternate universe Earth. Flashpoint just made Earth 1 the origin of Savitar, and Earth 2045 is probably dealing with the same poo poo.
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May 26, 2017 07:16
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Savitar also mentioned that the time fuckery which Barry did to create Flashpoint messed with time enough so that the creation of Savitar was essentially a fixed event, and Barry taking his own life wouldn't cause Savitar to be erased from history (like with Eddie and Reverse Flash).
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May 26, 2017 09:20
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Really wish they'd followed through with the pacifist ending. That might have redeemed the entire mess of the season for me. Felton's character sucks now. He was much better when he was a jerk. Caitlin better come back. I miss her being a wet blanket on Cisco's ridiculous ideas.
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May 26, 2017 10:08
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Chokes McGee posted:as a wwe fan the collision here made my brain freeze up for a sec way cooler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecZo2tSP83w
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May 27, 2017 01:29
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rapeface posted:Felton's character sucks now. He was much better when he was a jerk. I don't see the point of him and I don't know why they would keep him around because this show does not need more supporting characters, let alone more people hanging around Star Labs telling Barry to run faster.
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He survived his romance with Caitlin. That's not nothing. Almost nothing, but not nothing.
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