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Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF

Bape Culture posted:

I also want to know why the media want to make the lovely bomb makers out to be genius'?
I've seen them going on about how advance the explosive itself is (it isn't, I bet anyone here could make it if they didn't care for their life)
How specialised and advanced the battery was (it wasn't. It was literally a camera battery you can buy off amazon)
How advanced a dead mans switch is (it isn't)
Fuckin bizarre.

because journalists generally know next to nothing about bombs, so they rely on what they read/hear from official or other sources and might end up eating and reporting a load of horseshit. also i know next to nothing about bombs and especially about this particular bomb, but i find it is plausible that there might be more to the sophistication of the bomb apart from just the battery and the dead mans switch (that isn't being reported for one reason or another)

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Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

spacetoaster posted:

The anti-muslim BIGOTS are the ones supporting ISIS!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

https://theintercept.com/2017/05/24/reactions-to-manchester-bombing-show-how-anti-muslim-bigots-are-useful-idiots-for-isis/

No poo poo, that's literally the goal of all these terror attacks.

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
The answer is your average islamist is as retarded when it comes to bombs as your average journalist, and doing anything more complex than wiping their own rear end twice is most likely beyond them entirely. It probably was made by someone else, who's meager talent in wiring up a steel briefcase lined with screws to a chunk of home-made TNT makes them valuable

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Bholder posted:

No poo poo, that's literally the goal of all these terror attacks.

If you hate your enemies they win?

Pawl
Sep 9, 2006

I'm seeing this from an AoS perspective.







white primer uber alles
Love and good intentions will surely stop all this irrational violence

Here's a quick video showing how Love can conquer all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTQcCrHKLUo

Irom
May 16, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Bape Culture posted:

Why specifically Islam? Seems like they should be protecting all religions to me.

haha good one dude

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

Piss de Bundy posted:

i wonder what the alternate timeline where we let the saudis to fester and twist in the wind and allied ourselves with iran looks like

I wonder what the alternate timeline where you actually posted something of intelligence and substance would look like.

Mackers
Jan 16, 2012

Fog Tripper posted:

I wonder what the alternate timeline where you actually posted something of intelligence and substance would look like.

:ironicat:

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

I went and looked up this grande lady on youtube. Considering all the fap tributes that are made to her I'm surprised there weren't more fat goons hurt in this bombing.

Pawl
Sep 9, 2006

I'm seeing this from an AoS perspective.







white primer uber alles

spacetoaster posted:

I went and looked up this grande lady on youtube. Considering all the fap tributes that are made to her I'm surprised there weren't more fat goons hurt in this bombing.

Goons are not allowed near children

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
If there had been a hundred goons there, it would have been different. If we had ten goons there. One.

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

spacetoaster posted:

If you hate your enemies they win?

Ever heard of internet Trolls.

Isis is the same, except with bombs and less shitposting.

Luxury Communism
Aug 22, 2015

by Lowtax
Hmm yes, people who want war between the Islamic State and the West are playing into the hands of people who want war between the Islamic State and the West.

edit: fukken bring it m80s isis fite me irl

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Bholder posted:

Ever heard of internet Trolls.

Isis is the same, except with bombs and less shitposting.

So ISIS is.....in this thread?

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Psycho Society posted:

They're not wrong

So what are countries supposed to do about these fifth column populations? North African immigrants lived in France for fifty years without incident and then by the second or third generation there were massive race riots and terrorist attacks. They claim to be mistreated by society but more people are clamoring to get in.

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

spacetoaster posted:

So ISIS is.....in this thread?

ISIS IS the thread

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010

Luxury Communism posted:

Hmm yes, people who want war between muslims and the West are playing into the hands of people who want war between the muslims and the West.

ya

Luxury Communism
Aug 22, 2015

by Lowtax

loving lol the point remains

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


woops

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/867711202281082881

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Yep the UK has a 200 year tradition of using Islamic radicals to destabilize and control countries. Just look at the history of Nigeria.

Dmitri-9 fucked around with this message at 14:17 on May 25, 2017

afeelgoodpoop
Oct 14, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
you see, muslims seeing bad things said about their religion some time make them join efforts to kill you, even if the thing people are saying is adherents to your religion are vastly over represented in terrorist acts. even when the region has a muslim population of below a percent, and has massive amounts of racial animus underseeding it from a brutal civil war over race slavery. also the way to beat fascist is to physically assault them so they can't spread their message on a pew to a public who can just access the information on the net anyway, but muslim preachers who do literally preach for jewish extermination to a minority population that is actually culturally segregated can be safely ignored. i took out a fifty thousand dollar loan for education.

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010

Dmitri-9 posted:

So what are countries supposed to do about these fifth column populations? North African immigrants lived in France for fifty years without incident and then by the second or third generation there were massive race riots and terrorist attacks. They claim to be mistreated by society but more people are clamoring to get in.

In this case there were reports of radical islam taking hold in Libyan communities far before anything happened, and to the Manchester police no less.

In general you do need to get to a point where there's a public trust between people not to blow each other up or run each over even though it's possible. I think that kind of thing should be extremely rare with 2nd or 3rd generation kids integrated into their birth country.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

afeelgoodpoop posted:

okay goons... lets reverse the genders. you're on stage in nothing but a metallic gold bananna hammock. just try real hard to imagine you're actually fit and not a misshapen amalgamation of fats and rolls.

lets take the song baby youre a fire work, and xy it up. okay, now we're singing dudey youre the captain kirk, alright? You are surrounded by scantily clad female dancers, who you dry hump in doggy style, when you look out at the crowd and you see nothing but

little boys with a scattering of little girls. and this isn't totally loving insane and disgusting? i hate to say it but the isis guy was right, and what a way to bring in st. elliots day.

Please stop posting. Children read this forum and your posting is far worse than anything you're describing.

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Psycho Society posted:

In this case there were reports of radical islam taking hold in Libyan communities far before anything happened, and to the Manchester police no less.

In general you do need to get to a point where there's a public trust between people not to blow each other up or run each over even though it's possible. I think that kind of thing should be extremely rare with 2nd or 3rd generation kids integrated into their birth country.

Integration has failed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVWAIKoatWM

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

afeelgoodpoop posted:

. i took out a fifty thousand dollar loan for education.

Use it then instead of posting retarded poo poo

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Multiculturalism has failed. We haven't really tried integration.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

spacetoaster posted:

I was trying to find that tweet so I could call them a bunch of nazis. Please don't put images of tweets up.

https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/866881382395654144

Definitely a nazi haircut

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

spacetoaster posted:

So ISIS is.....in this thread?

Greetings

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Psycho Society posted:

Too bad they cited the sihk guy as a Muslim though. Fact checking isn't in vogue

Facts are good, but sometimes focusing too much on facts can distract from the narrative. As journalists, we have a responsibility to guide and shape society, and must exercise discretion on which facts we report and which we don't.

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010

For citizens born in that country, what other option is there? You can limit the spread of groups sympathetic to ISIS, and in this case it seems that would have been enough. The bomber had heavy ties to people who were protesting anti-ISIS sermons at his mosque. He had ties to people who fought with al-qaeda against Gaddafi.

Luxury Communism
Aug 22, 2015

by Lowtax
A good start would be to abandon the notion that the mere act of investigating potential terrorists is racist.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
If they're concerned about optics then just create patronage appointments for investigating relatively benign religions. Reward your top donor by appointing him Director of Mormon Terrorism Investigation and let him schmooze in Salt Lake City for a few years on the public dime.

Particularly motivated weeaboos can join the Shinto Hate Watch Bureau.

Pawl
Sep 9, 2006

I'm seeing this from an AoS perspective.







white primer uber alles
I think the reason integration has failed so horribly in many countries is because those countries don't instill a sense of national pride in immigrants. We should be telling people why western values are the best and instill pride in our migrants.

People want to move to the US because they want American values and view it as a land of opportunity, and when somebody wants to move to a country they are willing to integrate.

Refugees and migrants in Europe still view themselves as temporarily displaced citizens of their former countries. People coming from garbage fire countries in the middle east with the barbarous islam ideology rarely if ever integrate and feel like outcasts, leading to depression and drug abuse, which leads to feeling the need to absolve yourself of sins through suicide bombing martyrdom.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
Head Detective, Radical Jainism Squad

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe
just integrate them into a wood chipper and then integrate the multicultural remains into the earth

Junkfist
Oct 7, 2004

FRIEND?

Deus............................ult?

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
So, how long do you reckon it'll be until we'll wind up with either a Caliphate in Europe or Muslims getting rounded up and put into concentration camps?

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
idk but I'd bet good money that in our lifetimes we see one European country go completely off the rails and start pogromming migrants

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
I also kinda get the sense that somebody is probably going to go to war with Turkey soon

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hitchensgoespop
Oct 22, 2008

Gammatron 64 posted:

So, how long do you reckon it'll be until we'll wind up with either a Caliphate in Europe or Muslims getting rounded up and put into concentration camps?

Id confidently say that neither will happen within the next 100 years but feel free to disagree.

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