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Pollyanna posted:We only ever thought we evolved past cavemen. I'm not so sure, cavemen generally acknowledged that everyone needed to be in the cave or they'd die. What im saying is the Croods are more civilized than the average voter.
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https://twitter.com/youngvulgarian/status/867716497489227776 Macron speaks better English than trump and that is not an exaggeration. I hope he spoke French the whole meeting just to gently caress with him.
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There Bias Two posted:This is exactly the kind of poo poo that worries me. I bet her gas station health insurance is real good and is only going to get better under the AHCA.
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Man yo I want to distance myself from glowing fish's overnight crazy, I was just giving people poo poo because hey what's the point in having states if not to give people in other states poo poo, but that dude crazy. I'm goddamn loving this Gianforte mess though. Imagine doing something that gets you charged with assault on the eve of the election.
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"It is not isolation and the building of walls that makes us successful" -- Angela Merkel dunking on Trump
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Xombie posted:That's the confusing thing for me. I get how people become fascists. I just don't get how they become fascist and think that it's some type of libertarianism. There isn't much thinking involved.
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Zil posted:It is tribal/team mentality. If you are not on my side, you are not equal to me and are not deserving of any rights.
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Mister Adequate posted:Man yo I want to distance myself from glowing fish's overnight crazy, I was just giving people poo poo because hey what's the point in having states if not to give people in other states poo poo, but that dude crazy. Insert standard "Imagine if a democrat did this" here.
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In case you missed Trump's speech: "Terrorists are bad people, now PAY UP"
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Literally treating like a tenant forgetting to pay their rent.
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Trumpnjust ordered DOJ to investigate the leaks of the London bomb investigation.
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Potato Salad posted:Insert standard "Imagine if a democrat did this" here. IOKIYAR/IACIYAD
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FizFashizzle posted:Trumpnjust ordered DOJ to investigate the leaks of the London bomb investigation. That... actually seems like a reasonable step to take.
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This administration is a loving farce even for republicans, put it out of its misery so we can all start healing.
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New York Times has defended their publishing of the leaks. Idiots.
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The right will use this as a way to punish the New York Times.
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Invalid Validation posted:This administration is a loving farce even for republicans, put it out of its misery so we can all start healing. You want a president Pence? This is how we get a President Pence. Keeping Trump: Good - They can't get poo poo done, they will be mired in scandal, republican brand will be badly damaged for years Bad - Trump has access to nukes, is badly diminishing American prestige abroad. Getting rid of trump: Good - Getting nutter away from nukes Bad - President Pence knows how to actually govern, will enact far right republican agenda.
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Reince Priebus Sweating Secret Comey Memos, White House Sources Sayquote:Three White House officials told The Daily Beast that Chief of Staff Reince Priebus has privately expressed worry about a possible Comey memo specifically involving one of their reported chats, and how it might play in the press and to investigators.
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Xombie posted:That's the confusing thing for me. I get how people become fascists. I just don't get how they become fascist and think that it's some type of libertarianism. I am equally bewildered by all this. My time in the Libertarian thread and reading some writings from a delightful fellow named Hans Herman Hoppe only made it all the more puzzling. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/09/hans-hermann-hoppe/smack-down/ He also wrote a book extolling the greatness of monarchy and how it actually let us be more free than we are now. I can only conclude these people are insane. That's the only answer I have. I understand the appeal of Libertarianism. I understand the appeal of Authoritarianism. I cannot understand how anyone can support both.
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Cimber posted:You want a president Pence? This is how we get a President Pence. lol just lol forever
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skylined! posted:lol Hey man, its all relative.
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Flip you alchy piece of poo poo
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The thing about NATO is, it's actually a valid complaint that some countries aren't spending the amount specified in the treaty on their own defense, but Trump's complaint and the way he's going about it is completely moronic and counterproductive. We should be asking these countries why they're having trouble getting there and what kind of help they need to get there and if there's anything we can do tradewise it military-wise to help them meet those goals, not threatening that we'll just out of NATO.
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I cannot help but suspect that the whole Manchester bombing leak issue was done intentionally by the administration or at least someone in it to feed the "The real crimes are the leaks" message.
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Libertarianism for me. Authoritarianism for everyone else.
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NikkolasKing posted:I can only conclude these people are insane. That's the only answer I have. I understand the appeal of Libertarianism. I understand the appeal of Authoritarianism. I cannot understand how anyone can support both. No, no. It's perfectly sane. They want to be Authoritarian rulers, and think adopting Libertarian policies will make that process easier.
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Apologies if it has been discussed, but would this monstrosity pass SCOTUS? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2017/05/24/a-new-gop-bill-would-make-it-virtually-impossible-to-sue-the-police/ quote:Let’s look first at the new federal crimes. The bill would create new federal crimes for killing, attempting to kill or conspiring to kill a state or local law enforcement officer who works for a police agency that receives federal funding. Because nearly all police agencies receive some sort of federal funding, including most local sheriff’s departments and town police, the bill basically makes it a federal crime to kill, attempt to kill or conspire to kill any police officer (as well as any judge or first responder). The bill would also allow for the federal death penalty in such cases, and it would impose limits on the ability of defendants to file habeas petitions in federal court after they’ve exhausted their appeals.
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Radish posted:Libertarianism for me. Authoritarianism for everyone else. Basically this.
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/867745776528756738 So things are actually worse than I had feared because what is being demonstrated here is that the Narrativists in Congress have reached a sufficient level of compaction that they are now comfortable enough discussing their inner narrative in public that open violence directed towards the press is now become acceptable. While I expected this level of compaction would exist in the rank-and-file as well as the RWM echosphere- to see it being so brazenly displayed by elected officials is extremely concerning. I have long feared that when Donald Trump inevitably calls for violence that his calls will be echoed by elected officials but I have remained cautiously optimistic that it would not come to pass.However in light of the past 24 hours it now seems prudent to conclude that if/when Donald Trump incites his followers to violence against his enemies a non-trivial number of elected GOP officials will readily join him in also publicly inciting violence. I strongly hope that Gianforte loses today, if he does not experience some public consequences for this then the consequences for Democracy are going to be pretty severe.
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Xombie posted:No matter how many "understanding Trump voters" articles I read, I still don't understand how someone can have the cognitive dissonance to think they are for "small government" when they literally want politicians to act without any accountability whatsoever, as long as it's their guy doing the kicking. There are a ton of narratives in our society that this slots right into. You can probably come up with the stock movie scenes in your head: slimebag reporter who doesn't Get It jams a tape recorder in the hero cop/CIA agent/costumed crusader's face, demanding to know why he scratched a building while taking out the evil terrorists and saving the planet. The hero gently pushes the reporter away and is immediately lambasted by the world, who just doesn't understand them, for this heinous assault. When somebody who hasn't been paying attention (or heard the audio) hears that their guy punched out a reporter, that's the kind of story that will pop into their head. Every human being tries to make sense of the world by putting new information into the stories they already know; this is why morality tales and fables exist everywhere. It's just that the US, and the conservative movement in particular, has adopted action movies as a key part of its moral framework.
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Prester Jane posted:So things are actually worse than I had feared because what is being demonstrated here is that the Narrativists in Congress have reached a sufficient level of compaction that they are now comfortable enough discussing their inner narrative in public that open violence directed towards the press is now become acceptable. While I expected this level of compaction would exist in the rank-and-file as well as the RWM echosphere- to see it being so brazenly displayed by elected officials is extremely concerning. I have long feared that when Donald Trump inevitably calls for violence that his calls will be echoed by elected officials but I have remained cautiously optimistic that it would not come to pass.However in light of the past 24 hours it now seems prudent to conclude that if/when Donald Trump incites his followers to violence against his enemies a non-trivial number of elected GOP officials will readily join him in also publicly inciting violence. When the president can brag about sexual assault and his dick size on a presidential debate stage and still get elected, everything else is small bore. I think we're past the point of no return.
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Even if Trump is caught handing over the Nuke codes to the Russians and getting a giant sack with "$" printed on it, the Republicans in Congress have decided that they won't impeach him under any circumstances because it would be too politically damaging for them.quote:The status quo in Washington — an unhinged, unfit, mentally disturbed narcissist as POTUS fast losing any faint credibility with even his own staffers — is utterly unsustainable. In a serious crisis, more than half the country won’t believe a word the president says. The White House is barely functioning; legislation is completely stalled; next week’s trip abroad will have everyone watching from behind a couch; the FBI and CIA are reeling; there’s almost no one in the State Department; no presidential due diligence is applied to military actions; the president only reads memos when his name is mentioned in them; a not-too-smart and apparently mute 35-year-old son-in-law is supposed to solve every problem in the country and world; and the press secretary is hiding in the bushes. No one has any confidence that the president couldn’t throw us into a war or a constitutional crisis at a moment’s notice. Nothing this scary has happened in my lifetime. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/trump-the-cult-and-cover-up.html Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:09 on May 25, 2017 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Even if Trump is caught handing over the Nuke codes to the Russians and getting a giant sack with "$" printed on it, the Republicans in Congress have decided that they won't impeach him under any circumstances because it would be too politically damaging for them. party over country
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Even if Trump is caught handing over the Nuke codes to the Russians and getting a giant sack with "$" printed on it, the Republicans in Congress have decided that they won't impeach him. please link your sources so we can tell whether or not they're worth reading thank you!
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Taerkar posted:I cannot help but suspect that the whole Manchester bombing leak issue was done intentionally by the administration or at least someone in it to feed the "The real crimes are the leaks" message. Yeah, because Trump and his people have shown real foresight about these kinds of things in the past. They leaked because everything there leaks. It's probably a safer bet that some individual either did it because that's what they do now, or they did it because they think ISLAMIC TERROR helps them and they couldn't wait for the Brits to move forward.
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awesmoe posted:please link your sources so we can tell whether or not they're worth reading thank you! http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/trump-the-cult-and-cover-up.html
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Even if Trump is caught handing over the Nuke codes to the Russians and getting a giant sack with "$" printed on it, the Republicans in Congress have decided that they won't impeach him under any circumstances because it would be too politically damaging for them. 
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Eltoasto posted:Apologies if it has been discussed, but would this monstrosity pass SCOTUS? In a 5-4 ruling.... But for real, that is going to end up in the Supreme Court and will be very interesting under a Sessions run DOJ.
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