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Agag posted:See, this is more pragmatic. "It won't work and everyone will despise us, but lets kill a bunch of people anyway." You're not worried about stats and legacies, you just want to get out there and play the game. The concept of national disgrace or sin as your applying it is a pseudo-religious doctrine with no relevance to the vast majority of the world and with its only real penetration in certain segments of the west. Timur and Genghis are celebrated in their cultures, Stalin in Russia, Mao in China, Hitler would have been if he won Does the world despise America for its genocides? Not really, no one gives a poo poo except as its useful and to the extent that it might be thought of as a messed up event it still has no real ill effects SickZip fucked around with this message at 16:55 on May 25, 2017 |
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Fushigi Yuugi fansub posted:the mongol empire, khmer rouge and ussr all fell due to reasons unrelated to the genocides they perpetrated. historically the point of genocide has usually been to squash any opposition from the demographic in question, not (only) to kill because it's cool Sounds pointless.
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Nazzadan posted:"Heh, America and the west are responsible for modern Islamic terrorism" Ok fine let's just pull out of the world entirely and let the rest of the world figure this poo poo out "You can't dooooooo that!  Russia and China would take over!"
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Shaocaholica posted:It must really suck for bleeding heart Muslims in the west because no matter what they do wether active or non active changes nothing. The only way to make it stop is to leave the religion. Wipe their hands of it. This would be me in a heartbeat. I'm weak as gently caress. Dudes in cool suits goosestepping through my neighborhood? Ripping off my kippa and throwing out the ol' flat palm. Current things happening in the West? Shaving my beard and making sure I always have a bottle of beer and a slab of bacon in my hand. I'm now prepared to be judged by a bunch of goons
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SickZip posted:The concept of national disgrace or sin as your applying it is a pseudo-religious doctrine with no relevance to the vast majority of the world and with its only real penetration in certain segments of the west. Timur and Genghis are celebrated in their cultures, Stalin in Russia, Mao in China. Hitler would have been if he won idk Rome is still reeling to this day after what they did to the Bulgars
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SickZip posted:The concept of national disgrace or sin as your applying it is a pseudo-religious doctrine with no relevance to the vast majority of the world and with its only real penetration in certain segments of the west. Timur and Genghis are celebrated in their cultures, Stalin in Russia, Mao in China. Hitler would have been if he won Sorry about my parochial attitudes towards genocide and Hitler.
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Agag posted:They failed though. They never got rid of the people they wanted to get rid of. They just killed a bunch and became a disgrace that ended in failure anyway. This isn't \pol\, nobody is actually advocating genocide and saying it's a good thing People also forget the very first genocide human beings ever did, and that's because it predates history. The Neanderthals are extinct because we raped and murdered them out of existence.
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May 25, 2017 16:56
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Gammatron 64 posted:This isn't \pol\, nobody is actually advocating genocide and saying it's a good thing Heh, yeah, and look how THAT turned out! #genocidealwaysfails
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Agag posted:Sounds pointless. yeah i guess it's pointless to have no meaningful opposition if you're a blood-thirsty leader
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Gammatron 64 posted:This isn't \pol\, nobody is actually advocating genocide and saying it's a good thing Oh no it must be trolls then.  quote:People also forget the very first genocide human beings ever did, and that's because it predates history. The Neanderthals are extinct because we raped and murdered them out of existence. Sounds more like a theory. But if we assume that genocide is some kind of biological imperative then I guess there's no reason to oppose it.
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VikingSkull posted:Ok fine let's just pull out of the world entirely and let the rest of the world figure this poo poo out this is the most obnoxious fact that most people seem to understand but not be willing to talk about coherently if you hate america, which you might as well at this point: just remember that if america falls the world economy and the 'culture war' will consist of: china russia india saudi arabia brazil which one of these countries do you think will find a FAIR AND BALANCED way of protecting human rights while also protecting the innocent? absolutely loving none of them? then it's time to not give up on america Shaocaholica posted:It must really suck for bleeding heart Muslims in the west because no matter what they do wether active or non active changes nothing. The only way to make it stop is to leave the religion. Wipe their hands of it. countless millions of people have left catholicism since their alliance with hitler, pedophile rape gang, etc, and i never ever hear anyone on campus or even online worrying about the quality of life of those former catholics and losing sleep about if they're atheists now or if they're baptists or if they also can't sleep at this point i'm not sure if it's TV or what people are watching that associates a religion with a skin color with a race war, we should all hope that all religious people lose faith in their god and prophet if we want a better world extra stout fucked around with this message at 17:03 on May 25, 2017 |
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Shaocaholica posted:It must really suck for bleeding heart Muslims in the west because no matter what they do wether active or non active changes nothing. The only way to make it stop is to leave the religion. Wipe their hands of it. There is always the option of outing the ones that show signs of doing this stuff, and the religious leaders that promote it. 
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May 25, 2017 17:00
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Fushigi Yuugi fansub posted:yeah i guess it's pointless to have no meaningful opposition if you're a blood-thirsty leader Exactly. I mean your empire or whatever collapses anyway, and all you did was kill a bunch of people for no reason, or at best to extend your lovely doomed-to-fail state another few years. Not sure why anybody would want to do that, but I guess that's why nobody made me khan of khans.
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May 25, 2017 17:01
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Fog Tripper posted:There is always the option of outing the ones that show signs of doing this stuff, and the religious leaders that promote it. Hopefully "outing" still means "alerting the authorities who then take the appropriate action" and not "pushing them out of a helicopter" by the time it finally happens.
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Agag posted:Sorry about my parochial attitudes towards genocide and Hitler. Thank you. My triggers are bad history and confusing normative with descriptive
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heh, I know you D&Dphobic boors are just want to keep circlejerking, but check out this hot take: let's NOT genocide muslim people!!!
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ahaha is the far left advice really, just let them blow up our children and rape our children and woman because they want us to not like it!!!!!!!!! at least i'm not racist 
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Do it ironically posted:ahaha is the far left advice really, just let them blow up our children and rape our children and woman because they want us to not like it!!!!!!!!! It should definitely be illegal to rape and murder children imo.
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Nerses IV posted:Hopefully "outing" still means "alerting the authorities who then take the appropriate action" and not "pushing them out of a helicopter" by the time it finally happens. If they would like to take them into the back alley and put a slug in their skulls I would be cool with that too. Bringing it to the authorities opens things up to hands being self-tied to avoid being percieved as "racist/intolerant".
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May 25, 2017 17:09
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Fog Tripper posted:If they would like to take them into the back alley and put a slug in their skulls I would be cool with that too. Bringing it to the authorities opens things up to hands being self-tied to avoid being percieved as "racist/intolerant". Can't trust the muslims, can't trust the government, can't trust the cops. Its up to the Proud Boys now...
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Agag posted:Can't trust the muslims, can't trust the government, can't trust the cops. Its up to the Proud Boys now... I mean, that's pretty much how these immigrant communities operate once they've ethnically cleansed the natives.
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Agag posted:It should definitely be illegal to rape and murder children imo. Except all the times lawyers argue that their refugee clients didn't understand it's wrong to rape kids, and they get off
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Nerses IV posted:I mean, that's pretty much how these immigrant communities operate once they've ethnically cleansed the natives. If you can't trust neo-nazis on the internet about how immigrant communities really work, who can you trust?
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More bomb technical details https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/25/manchester-bomb-same-explosive-paris-brussels-attacks-mike-mccaul quote:Manchester bomb used same explosive as Paris and Brussels attacks, says US lawmaker
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Agag posted:Can't trust the muslims, can't trust the government, can't trust the cops. Its up to the Proud Boys now... If muslims put as much effort into removing terrorists as they do finding gays and tossing them off roofs, there would be less of a problem.
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Agag posted:If you can't trust neo-nazis on the internet about how immigrant communities really work, who can you trust? I was wondering when you'd finally give up and just start calling people nazis.
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Fog Tripper posted:If muslims put as much effort into removing terrorists as they do finding gays and tossing them off roofs, there would be less of a problem. Its constantly raining gays downtown, and I'm sick of it. Totally normative Muslim behavior, but the cops can't do poo poo about it. I lost the link but this was all very convincingly covered by Daily Stormer.
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Nerses IV posted:I was wondering when you'd finally give up and just start calling people nazis. I called you all nazis a dozen pages ago. That's my starting point. Then you proved me wrong by defending genocide.
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Agag posted:Exactly. I mean your empire or whatever collapses anyway, and all you did was kill a bunch of people for no reason, or at best to extend your lovely doomed-to-fail state another few years. Not sure why anybody would want to do that, but I guess that's why nobody made me khan of khans. well yeah but otoh nobody starts building an empire on the assumption that it will crumble next year. often empire builders are optimistic in that their legacy will carry on for the next thousand years or so
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Agag posted:Its constantly raining gays downtown, and I'm sick of it. Totally normative Muslim behavior, but the cops can't do poo poo about it. I lost the link but this was all very convincingly covered by Daily Stormer. I mean, one of the Muslims in my community only shot a few dozen of them.
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Agag posted:Can't trust the muslims, can't trust the government, can't trust the cops. Its up to the Proud Boys now... I mean, you're making a joke but this is literally how the situation will end up progressing if we accept the status quo. I don't like that outcome and I'm sure you don't, either, so maybe "well, just go on about your lives" isn't the best strategy?
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Agag posted:Its constantly raining gays downtown, and I'm sick of it. Totally normative Muslim behavior, but the cops can't do poo poo about it. I lost the link but this was all very convincingly covered by Daily Stormer. There is evidence of roof tossing of gays. Do you have the stats of outing of terrorists?
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VikingSkull posted:I mean, you're making a joke but this is literally how the situation will end up progressing if we accept the status quo. I don't like that outcome and I'm sure you don't, either, so maybe "well, just go on about your lives" isn't the best strategy? drat, guess its Caliphate for us if its down to the Proud Boys. Fog Tripper posted:There is evidence of roof tossing of gays. Do you have the stats of outing of terrorists? Yeah I'm going to post a bunch of stats. Just wait a minute.
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Fog Tripper posted:There is evidence of roof tossing of gays. Do you have the stats of outing of terrorists? A lot of "terrorists" started getting outed in those refugee camps in Europe when the refugees realized it was an easy way to get rid of people they didn't like, if that works.
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Agag posted:Yeah I'm going to post a bunch of stats. Just wait a minute. One? Do you imagine being outwardly gay is easier than being outwardly terroristic in the muslim community? Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 17:25 on May 25, 2017 |
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Fushigi Yuugi fansub posted:well yeah but otoh nobody starts building an empire on the assumption that it will crumble next year. often empire builders are optimistic in that their legacy will carry on for the next thousand years or so I'm not optimistic enough for genocide, for sure.
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Agag posted:I'm not optimistic enough for genocide, for sure. I mean, if you're going to keep making GBS threads on genocide, I would have thought you'd start posting examples of some non-genocidal empires or something.
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Nerses IV posted:I mean, if you're going to keep making GBS threads on genocide, I would have thought you'd start posting examples of some non-genocidal empires or something. drat, now you're saying imperialism is a bad thing? I'll have to chew on that one.
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Agag posted:drat, now you're saying imperialism is a bad thing? I'll have to chew on that one. If imperialism had never occurred, the human race would be even more weak than it has gotten.
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It must loving suck to be so certain you're right but you can't even shoot down genocide as an option, here.
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