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A Labour victory being defined of course as Corbyn winning the election *in the pissflaps voice* and then stepping down.
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May 25, 2017 23:28
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SteelMentor posted:I can't loving parse this It's this idea that keeps being pushed that Corbyn is so hated by the "mainstream" labour supporters that they will only vote Labour if they thought that he couldn't win. It was a stupid narrative to begin with, but when his unfavourables were so bad if you squinted you could see some sort of dumb logic to it, now with his favourables being not far removed from May it seems completely stupid.
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May 25, 2017 23:28
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SteelMentor posted:I can't loving parse this He's a political sketch writer, a professional unfunny comedian.
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May 25, 2017 23:28
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Namtab posted:A Labour victory being defined of course as Corbyn winning the election *in the pissflaps voice* and then stepping down. He's not going to step down when labour lose so I don't think your scenario is likely.
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May 25, 2017 23:29
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Looke posted:TWO PISSFLAPS I'm spalfssip.
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May 25, 2017 23:30
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We are all Pissflaps.
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May 25, 2017 23:30
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Gonzo McFee posted:He's a political sketch writer, a professional unfunny comedian. Something something, Labour Right opinions are indistinguishable from bad jokes something something.
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May 25, 2017 23:31
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Pissflaps posted:He's not going to step down when labour lose so I don't think your scenario is likely. Outside of the joke bit am I right in stating that you're defining victory as "Corbyn forms government with him as pm" or will there be more hurdles to jump?
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May 25, 2017 23:31
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Gonzo McFee posted:Reckon the next few weeks of polling will be dependant on whether or not having the Army and armed guards stomping about this place is taken as a good thing or if footage of Corbyn and various policemen pointing out the 19,000 less police under May and her time as Home Secretary picks up steam. I never did understand the police cuts. Even from a Tory point of view it's dumb. These are the guys who protect you from the riots caused by your policies, you idiots! Thatcher knew that, she wasn't trying to economise on the police when she did Orgreave, she was authorising overtime.
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May 25, 2017 23:32
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/867848021182173185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Is a Labour / Lib dem coalition possible?
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May 25, 2017 23:32
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Pissflaps posted:There was polling data from earlier in the campaign that people who were hostile to a Corbyn led government were still prepared to vote labour as they thought he had no chance of winning. Tightening polls reduce that effect. Also the Tories have floated a couple of balloons along the lines of "Labour are still a danger, better turn out and vote!" already.
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May 25, 2017 23:33
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feedmegin posted:I never did understand the police cuts. Even from a Tory point of view it's dumb. These are the guys who protect you from the riots caused by your policies, you idiots! Thatcher knew that, she wasn't trying to economise on the police when she did Orgreave, she was authorising overtime. It makes sense in the context that they wanted more of the support staff roles to go out to private firms.
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May 25, 2017 23:33
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tithin posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/867848021182173185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Not much point in it, wouldn't mind lab/snp
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May 25, 2017 23:33
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tithin posted:Is a Labour / Lib dem coalition possible? No. In any case, the lib dems are twats and would rather go with the tories if it came to that.
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May 25, 2017 23:33
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Namtab posted:Outside of the joke bit am I right in stating that you're defining victory as "Corbyn forms government with him as pm" or will there be more hurdles to jump? You'll be unsurprised to learn you're not right. There's no hurdles. The party or parties that forms a government will have 'won' the election. I'm not sure why you're so keen to ask me this it's not complicated.
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May 25, 2017 23:35
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Namtab posted:Not much point in it, wouldn't mind lab/snp What's the snp numbers asides from "all of Scotland"
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May 25, 2017 23:35
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Corbster knew: https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/668848373227614208
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May 25, 2017 23:36
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feedmegin posted:I never did understand the police cuts. Even from a Tory point of view it's dumb. These are the guys who protect you from the riots caused by your policies, you idiots! Thatcher knew that, she wasn't trying to economise on the police when she did Orgreave, she was authorising overtime. I don't get it ether but the Tories have been attacking their own base as a matter of course recently. It's almost as if they've forgotten they're trying to trick people into voting to gently caress themselves over.
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May 25, 2017 23:37
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Hubris innit
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May 25, 2017 23:38
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Also the Tories have floated a couple of balloons along the lines of "Labour are still a danger, better turn out and vote!" already. we've somehow got three of the leaflets that just say "TRUMP WON CORBYN MIGHT" which isn't actually an argument
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May 25, 2017 23:39
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Namtab posted:Not much point in it, wouldn't mind lab/snp Labour/SNP/Plaid/Green would be a reasonable coalition. I'd take the Lib Dems if they were needed to form a majority but lol if they think they're getting listened to on matters of policy.
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May 25, 2017 23:39
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tithin posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/867848021182173185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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May 25, 2017 23:40
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Lab and SNP will also never coalition formally, the closest you would get is a Labour minority government which would rely on the SNP to pass budgets and laws.
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May 25, 2017 23:41
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tithin posted:What's the snp numbers asides from "all of Scotland" i'll have you know the snp are seeing a TOTAL DESTRUCTION and this time round their seats might merely number nearly all of Scotland. So uh, somewhere between 50 and 55 probably
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May 25, 2017 23:41
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spectralent posted:we've somehow got three of the leaflets that just say "TRUMP WON CORBYN MIGHT" which isn't actually an argument The best part of those adverts were that the three things listed on them were all things that were considered favourably by their base.
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May 25, 2017 23:41
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tithin posted:What's the snp numbers asides from "all of Scotland" Somewhere between 40 and 50 mps who would probably not do indyref 2 in exchange for some kind of brexit deal or devolution Namtab fucked around with this message at 23:47 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 23:43
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Namtab posted:[...] am I right in stating that you're defining victory as "Corbyn forms government with him as pm" or will there be more hurdles to jump? Pissflaps posted:You'll be unsurprised to learn you're not right. So I am right? You just said the same thing as me there, I think you may be confused about what "or" means.
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May 25, 2017 23:45
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It's amazing how PMQ sessions legit look like something out of Blackadder
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May 25, 2017 23:46
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jBrereton posted:Lab and SNP will also never coalition formally, the closest you would get is a Labour minority government which would rely on the SNP to pass budgets and laws. We've got one of those "confidence and supply" arrangements in Ireland at the moment. It kinda works? But the whole situation definitely feels tenuous as gently caress and the petty pointscoring has gotten outlandish
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May 25, 2017 23:46
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WeAreTheRomans posted:We've got one of those "confidence and supply" arrangements in Ireland at the moment. It kinda works? But the whole situation definitely feels tenuous as gently caress and the petty pointscoring has gotten outlandish
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May 25, 2017 23:48
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Pochoclo posted:It's amazing how PMQ sessions legit look like something out of Blackadder
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May 25, 2017 23:48
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Oh I see, I forgot to say "youre defining Labour victory as...", I can't handle this wordplay
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May 25, 2017 23:49
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Namtab posted:So I am right? You just said the same thing as me there, I think you may be confused about what "or" means. You asked if there are 'more hurdles' suggesting I had already put in place artificial barriers to defining labour's election as having been successful. It's really loving simple I'm not sure what you're struggling with: if labour are in government a few days after the election then it was a success.
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May 25, 2017 23:49
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jBrereton posted:yeah it sucks and should not exist tbh It's the best part of your whole political system.
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May 25, 2017 23:50
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Just to take this back to the threads foundations (video games), I like to think that when all of these Pissflaps accounts merge, the rest of us will merge with it in a manner very similar to the Helios ending of Deus Ex.
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May 25, 2017 23:50
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Pissflaps posted:You asked if there are 'more hurdles' suggesting I had already put in place artificial barriers to defining labour's election as having been successful. So you don't know what "or" means? Because you were offered multiple choices.
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May 25, 2017 23:51
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Namtab posted:I'm not virtuous, I'm namtab Nice to meet you What anime do you like?
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May 25, 2017 23:51
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I'm seein double here FOUR PISSFLAPS'
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jBrereton posted:It's been done before by Labour here but then never with people who wanted to leave the country so ??? Corbyns position is to agree with whatever the scottish parliament decides on a referendum or not so potentially I could see them being uncomfortable allies on that point. Also Corbyn would be amicable to ensure that single market access is retained which was a key SNP demand on Brexit, so they could really see eye to eye on major Scottish questions at least.
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