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axeil posted:Powder River has fully reported results in 18 of 21 precincts. Gianforte is up 63 points. He’d want to be up by at least about 52 points to win statewide based on the past two presidential elections in Montana. Damnit the guy who bodynslammed a reporter is going to win. But Donald Trump IS president so I'm not sure why I'm surprised
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The Glumslinger posted:Nah, I'd rather have the seat to be honest seat is irrelevant until 2018. the choke slammer winning is better than quist winning. say it out loud by 2018 the gop is going to have so much loving dirt heaped on them future archaeologists will be excavating seashell relics from mcconnells little turtle hovel and wondering what weird implement was petrified inside paul ryans rear end. you dumb motherfuckers {{{covok}}} are living in a nihilistic bubble, terrified of when this all starts to really matter.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:poo poo we can probably name like, five presidents known to be rapists or proababke rapists off the top of our heads. Bill Clinton, Grover Cleveland, Thomas Jefferson, who else?
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CrocodileKingSaysNO posted:i dont agree with the posters saying that all reporters should be choked and punched and hospitalized for asking a normal question in a non-threatening way in a 1 on 1 encounter about potentially the most life-changing bill since the one it is trying to replace and maybe the most potentially life-destroying bill in this history or any other. But he complained about getting his glasses broken 
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CrocodileKingSaysNO posted:i dont agree with the posters saying that all reporters should be choked and punched and hospitalized for asking a normal question in a non-threatening way in a 1 on 1 encounter about potentially the most life-changing bill since the one it is trying to replace and maybe the most potentially life-destroying bill in this history or any other. well you know what buddy maybe that's why we lost
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Not to sound ~Covokian~ here, but voters come 2018 won't care or care to remember what happened in another state, so using this as a benchmark for the ~growing tide of progressivism~ is *also* a bit premature. It's Dr. Covokian, because his bad posting induces people to suicide.
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This shift is also very relevant for the senate- A lot of vulnerable dems could be saved by this momentum. Even if we can't take back the senate in 2018, it'd be a huge boon for 2020 and 2022
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Rigel posted:and thats 320 out of 435 seats. 320 is a loving shitton. It would be nice, but we don't need an iron grip over the house in 2018. Speak for yourself. 320 seats is literally impeachment time.
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if you really want to win back the house it's time we dropped all this idpol and just started wildly swinging at anyone we see and give anderson cooper a stonecold stunner
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Bueno Papi posted:We need an iron-grip/wave election in 2020 to redraw the districts to make the republican party a permanent minority party. yes. 2020 could very well be the most important election year in our lives at the state level. If we loving destroy Trump in 2020 and the Supreme Court hasn't outlawed gerrymandering by then, we could banish the GOP into the wilderness for a decade.
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Young Freud posted:Speak for yourself. ... from the house. You still need a 2/3 majority in the senate.
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axeil posted:This is an R+20 seat. If the Dems win this it implies in a nationwide election they would win something like 320 seats. Montana's electoral makeup isn't the same as most red districts. They are more apt to vote D than most red states. Also, it was R+20 when Hillary Clinton was on the ballot. Quist wasn't a perfect candidate himself, but he's more appealing than Clinton and you'd still expect that gap to narrow with a Republican in office, especially one that's as much of a shitshow as Trump. We'll see what the final results are, but losing handedly in this environment to this candidate isn't a call for celebration.
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A very narrow GOP win here is better than a Dem win in the sense that being the opposition is easier than governing and losing elections relieves you of responsibility for everything bad that happens ever in the eyes of the electorate but it's bad because it means that the GOP candidate will be governing
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LOL if you thought that Montanans were going to make a sane decision.
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skylined! posted:seat is irrelevant until 2018. lmao
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skylined! posted:seat is irrelevant until 2018. The Mattering will come when Ossoff wins GA-06. I am very confident he's going to win it. Ein Sexmonster posted:This shift is also very relevant for the senate- A lot of vulnerable dems could be saved by this momentum. Even if we can't take back the senate in 2018, it'd be a huge boon for 2020 and 2022 Yes this too. Saving Manchin (sorry mcmagic), Heitkamp, Joe Donnelly, and other red state Senators up in 18 is a huge boon because in a neutral environment those people would get crushed.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Bill Clinton, Grover Cleveland, Thomas Jefferson, who else? JFK?
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Supremezero posted:... from the house. You still need a 2/3 majority in the senate. You should probably consider what the senate looks like if Dems have 320 in the house.
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Thaddius the Large posted:It's Dr. Covokian, because his bad posting induces people to suicide. That's not fair. He doesn't induce suicide. He works really hard to try and talk you into letting him help you kill yourself.
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Supremezero posted:... from the house. You still need a 2/3 majority in the senate. If you can guarantee me that Trump won't launch nukes, then I kinda want him to survive to 2020
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You have to realize that we are a cursed people. Amos 2 says, "You only have I known of all the families of the Earth, therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities." So until we come back to these commandments, until you come back to these commandments, we're gonna feel this way, we're gonna be under this curse. Because He said He's gonna punish us, Americans, we are the true children of Israel. We are the Israelites, according to the Bible. The children of Israel, He's gonna punish us for our iniquities, for our disobedience, because we chose to follow other gods that aren't His son, so the Lord, thy God, chasten thee. So, just like you chasten your own son, He's gonna chastise you because He loves you. So that's why we get chastised, that's why we're in the position we're in. Until we come back to these laws, statutes, and commandments, and do what the Lord said, these curses are gonna be upon us. We're gonna be at a lower state in this life that we live here in today, in the United States of America
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I'm loving tired of coming loving close. Hillary came close, that didn't stop her from simultaneously be a catastrophic loving failure. The corpses of people who will lose life-saving insurance and die in 2018 will not give a poo poo about how good the odds look for the blues in 2020.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Bill Clinton, Grover Cleveland, Thomas Jefferson, who else? Trump won the election, back in November
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Amused to Death posted:Damnit the guy who bodynslammed a reporter is going to win. Reminder that the Body Slam happened yesterday/Last night. And (apparently) ~2/3rds of the vote is early voting. With a lot of calls coming in today asking to change their votes (which they couldn't). It's still bad overall but you shouldn't consider it as super bleak either imo.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Eh, arguable. ryan said earlier today they want to let the people on montana decide their rep. they will let him join and they are going to, as pelosi put it, loving glow in the dark as yet another piece of poo poo is superglued to the gop brand. as much as we want to think this poo poo is completely normalized, it's not. chokeslamming a reporter in Montana will increase dem turnout in ga06.
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Spiritus Nox posted:I'm loving tired of coming loving close. Hillary came close, that didn't stop her from simultaneously be a catastrophic loving failure. The corpses of people who will lose life-saving insurance and die in 2018 will not give a poo poo about how good the odds look for the blues in 2020. And how, exactly, would a Dem win here help with that?
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RuanGacho posted:You should probably consider what the senate looks like if Dems have 320 in the house. I really, really, really hope they actually try and contest Alabama and Mississippi. There's a lot of black voters there so they aren't as red as you think and in a wave environment those seats are winnable if the party tries. Spiritus Nox posted:I'm loving tired of coming loving close. Hillary came close, that didn't stop her from simultaneously be a catastrophic loving failure. The corpses of people who will lose life-saving insurance and die in 2018 will not give a poo poo about how good the odds look for the blues in 2020. 1 (or 2) House seats won't matter on AHCA. We people who follow this stuff like addicts think the only thing that matters is the W but smart GOP operatives, and The Turtle is smart even if he's a coward, will piss their pants if there's yet another race that implies a Dem swing of 10-15 points, especially since the guy ran almost entirely on "AHCA BAD"
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Spiritus Nox posted:I'm loving tired of coming loving close. Hillary came close, that didn't stop her from simultaneously be a catastrophic loving failure. The corpses of people who will lose life-saving insurance and die in 2018 will not give a poo poo about how good the odds look for the blues in 2020. If it helps Quist winning would do absolutely nothing to change that.
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Rigel posted:yes. 2020 could very well be the most important election year in our lives at the state level. If we loving destroy Trump in 2020 and the Supreme Court hasn't outlawed gerrymandering by then, we could banish the GOP into the wilderness for a decade. My dream scenario is that it hurts them so bad that republicans agree to electoral reforms at an amendment level.
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axeil posted:The Mattering will come when Ossoff wins GA-06. I am very confident he's going to win it. 
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We're about halfway in. The political experts are still saying that its too early to say that Quist didn't have a huge election day surge. If he didn't, he's toast obviously.
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Ein Sexmonster posted:And how, exactly, would a Dem win here help with that? It would help if a Dem could win literally any-loving-thing that matters even a tiny bit
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ChokeSlam a reporter and get rewarded for it... gently caress everything
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STAC Goat posted:If it helps Quist winning would do absolutely nothing to change that. It'd be a better moral win than losing by 8 points.
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Spiritus Nox posted:It would help if a Dem could win literally any-loving-thing that matters even a tiny bit That's already happened. Happy to help.
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Spiritus Nox posted:I'm loving tired of coming loving close. Hillary came close, that didn't stop her from simultaneously be a catastrophic loving failure. The corpses of people who will lose life-saving insurance and die in 2018 will not give a poo poo about how good the odds look for the blues in 2020. And this is what I'm talking about. There is no such thing as a "moral victory" to the out-of-work family of two who just lost their health insurance from the AHCA and, due to the medicaid roll backs, can't afford to keep their eldery parents alive and have to watch them go before their time. All this "numbers" and "it will be fine in 2018" and other self-serving poo poo just serves to piss-off people who know that people will die because we keep losing. Losing is losing in a "winner-take-all" system. If you want people to care or have hope, win.
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