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Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Hand Knit posted:

Congratulations to the Ottawa Senators for a three week stretch where they, uh [looks at goal differential, scoring chances, and regulation wins] performed almost as well as the Vancouver Canucks.

Ouch. Too soon.

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Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Hand Knit posted:

Now that the threat of the Senators three stoogesing their way to a Cup is past, I'm looking forwards to Melnyk and GM of the year Dorion going all in on this group.

Ahem please use his full title

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/867957208893374464

https://twitter.com/BroadStBull/status/867954796820484097

lmao

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
hahaha, I like to think what Murray really wanted to say was "if I'd been playing the whole series we'd have wrapped it up in 5"

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006


He opened the door real good.

MAF for Conn Smythe.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

So will Guy Boucher repeat the exact same thing with Ottawa that he did with Tampa? First he takes them to Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Final, then proceeds to miss the playoffs the next two years, including a bottom 3 finish in his 3rd year before getting fired.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Jordan7hm posted:

The Kanata reason doesn't really jive with me though. The arena has always been there (well, not always, but for a long time). If anything even more people live out there.

Well good for them. Everyone who lives east of the museum has always thought it was a giant pain in the rear end, and as convenient as it sounds to get on a 400-series bus, getting back is still annoying because there's only one park & ride and it's in loving Rockland.

I'll go to a game, sure. A playoff game or two yeah, if I don't have to drive because just lol at a $30 parking fee. But 41 times a year there and back plus parking lot mayhem? No. I did a half-season once, in 2007, and by December I couldn't give the tickets away.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Xtanstic posted:

God I hope he drives Karlsson away

For Karlsson's sake, I completely agree. Or give him a Ray Borque trade.

Actually no don't do that cause by that time it'll probably be loving Pittsburgh's turn again.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

flakeloaf posted:

For Karlsson's sake, I completely agree. Or give him a Ray Borque trade.

Actually no don't do that cause by that time it'll probably be loving Pittsburgh's turn again.

Smashville understands the value of d-men

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Xtanstic posted:

Smashville understands the value of d-men

And Doiron understands the value of used-up ex-Senators.

Everyone give a warm welcome back to Carrie Underwood's Husband!

e: oh and I almost forgot, the job of selling Senators tickets is now being done by a guy who used to do this job in another market. Unfortunately for us, the job of selling Leafs tickets to Toronto fans could be done by a moldy, one-sided slice of bologna, so it's not clear how effective he's actually going to be here.

flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 05:34 on May 26, 2017

The Dirty Burger
Aug 24, 2007

1st team all star
+
2nd degree manslaughter
=
3rd world clothing line
This run owned, hopefully Vegas is tricked by how good Bobby was in the playoffs and snags him in the draft. Also hopefully Karlsson will be tricked by the run and re-signs here long term.

Terrified of the moves GM of the Year Finalist Pierre Dorion will make this summer. Please don't touch Chabot or White :smith:

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



For real, if that last series is what "letting them play" means then I'll take tightly-called penalty-fests every game.

Good on the Sens for going on a great run. gently caress them forever though.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
I still feel like maybe the ultra-conservative strategy wasn't the best way to play the Penguins, who are the most aggressive team in the NHL and were playing Ron Hainsey 20+ minutes a game. Most of the series except Games 5, it seemed like on the rare occasions the Sens were forced to try to score, lo and behold, they scored.

Not only does having Erik Karlsson on your team and deciding "yeah, the optimal strategy here is definitely to play a rigid ultra conservative system" make me sad as a hockey fan, I'm pretty sure it's a bad strategy and the Sens might actually have won this series if they'd attacked the Pens more, especially once Jultz went out. Dumoulin and Jultz were the only Pens defensemen who could consistently move the puck into and through the neutral zone at all and the Sens spent most of the series sitting back, terrified of the Pens' forwards, instead of pressuring the likes of Hainsey and Maatta and Daley into mistakes

e: a big reason I think the Preds are the SCF favorite is that their defensemen are going to ensure the puck is in the Penguins' end a lot, and unlike Ottawa the Preds have a Good Coach who absolutely is smart enough to tailor his strategy to attacking his opponent's weakness, rather than saying "but but ~My System~"

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

Koopa Kid posted:

For real, if that last series is what "letting them play" means then I'll take tightly-called penalty-fests every game.

No other sport chokes the life out of their stars like hockey does. Baseball might do their best to squash personalities but star players still win games there.

If the NBA was reffed like playoff hockey it'd make that 1994 Knicks/Rockets final look like the Harlem Globetrotters.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

ElwoodCuse posted:

No other sport chokes the life out of their stars like hockey does. Baseball might do their best to squash personalities but star players still win games there.
The hockey teams who have actually won have a bunch of stars on them while you'll get weirdo World Series winners like 2002 Angels or 2005 White Sox who didn't have any name guys.

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

Spring Break My Heart posted:

The hockey teams who have actually won have a bunch of stars on them while you'll get weirdo World Series winners like 2002 Angels or 2005 White Sox who didn't have any name guys.

There's no such thing as "playoff refereeing" in baseball

Nairbo
Jan 2, 2005
It does bring me some level of joy that Montreal is probably going to be bad for several years now.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Meh Price and a Julien system can drag us kicking and screaming to above average mediocrity for a few more years.

Ceyton
Oct 9, 2004

YOU'RE DEAD ARMITAGE!
YOU'RE DEAD ARMITAGE!
YOU'RE DEAD ARMITAGE!

Xtanstic posted:

Meh Price and a Julien system can drag us kicking and screaming to above average mediocrity for a few more years.

You mean 1 more year, whereupon Price becomes a UFA and signs with a team that isn't run by literal poo poo eating retards

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Ceyton posted:

You mean 1 more year, whereupon Price becomes a UFA and signs with a team that isn't run by literal poo poo eating retards
I will bet you 100 million US dollars he signs a lengthy mega-extension before he ever hits free agency

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Spring Break My Heart posted:

I will bet you 100 million US dollars he signs a lengthy mega-extension before he ever hits free agency

That's probably what he's gonna get.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

Aphrodite posted:

There is no Canada's team but it especially doesn't come from Ontario.

CommaToes posted:

Calgary? I wouldn't call them Canada's team.

yellowcar posted:

Yeah Montreal should have put up more of a fight to get to round 2 but c'est la vie. :)

It's hilarious that these are all true to some extent or another, it's particularly true that the Leafs are the best and that Marner meme just makes me like them more

Kilza posted:

This. This isn't like the MLB or NBA where there's only 1 Canadian team, therefore they're defaulted to as "Canada's Team". You can't define one of the seven Canadian teams in the NHL as "Canada's Team". That's not how it works.

It's the Leafs tho

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


gently caress the leafs

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Stiev Awt posted:

gently caress the leafs

:agreed::hf::same:

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


The Washington Capitals are Canada's team because Tom Wilson is the archetypal Good Ontario Boy who plays with skill, class, and grit. For a while now the most common baby name in Canada has been Tomwilson.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
I am so loving happy that Ottawa lost, and also that their ownership is going to think the team is actually good because of this PDO-fueled run, and they're going to torpedo their future.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Any team that managed to lose multiple game to the Ottawa Senators in the 2017 playoff should be ashamed.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
I don't think they'll even make the playoffs next year.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

Jamwad Hilder posted:

I am so loving happy that Ottawa lost, and also that their ownership is going to think the team is actually good because of this PDO-fueled run, and they're going to torpedo their future.

Dorion: Extend me now, GMotY candidates don't come cheap!

Melnyk: murgle berble

Dorion: Even those analytics twits support me! Their latest stat is Pierre Dorion Oversight and we did GREAT at it!

Melnyk: *hands over bag of money labeled "For Erik, Hands Off!"*

Technetium
Oct 26, 2006

TRILOBITE TECHNICIAN
QUITE POSSIBLY GAY

Jamwad Hilder posted:

I am so loving happy that Ottawa lost, and also that their ownership is going to think the team is actually good because of this PDO-fueled run, and they're going to torpedo their future.

They didn't have an inflated PDO in the regular season or playoffs either at 5v5 or all situations, it was basically smack dab at 100, which is average. They aren't like the Calgarys and Colorados of yesteryear, they're just mediocre in most measures.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
If they got lucky at anything it seems to me the obvious place to look is Tampa Bay and Florida since both those teams could have reasonably been expected to be much better but instead were around the bottom of a weak division, leaving room for the Sens to squeak in.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Pornographic Memory posted:

If they got lucky at anything it seems to me the obvious place to look is Tampa Bay and Florida since both those teams could have reasonably been expected to be much better but instead were around the bottom of a weak division, leaving room for the Sens to squeak in.

Agreed, going into the year I thought Florida looked like the dangerous lower seed that would go far. Then the coaching carousel began, and Jagr looked to have lost some zip.

Pungry
Feb 26, 2011

JUST PICK ONE. ANY ONE.

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Agreed, going into the year I thought Florida looked like the dangerous lower seed that would go far. Then the coaching carousel began, and Jagr looked to have lost some zip.

And Huberdeau was out for over half the year with an injury, among others who got injured. I think they bounce back with some luck.

heehee
Sep 5, 2012

haha wow i cant believe how lucky we got to win :D
Yea cats will be back in the ploffs next year don't you worry folks

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Pornographic Memory posted:

If they got lucky at anything it seems to me the obvious place to look is Tampa Bay and Florida since both those teams could have reasonably been expected to be much better but instead were around the bottom of a weak division, leaving room for the Sens to squeak in.

I think that's a very fair assessment. Tampa finished 5th in the Atlantic, 2 points out of a playoff spot (because of ROW) despite the injuries they dealt with throughout the year, and looking through their schedule the only real month they were really bad in was January. And then Florida did a lot worse this year, but as a couple of posters have already said they dealt with their fair share of injuries as well, on top of the whole coaching/management snafu.

I strongly doubt Tampa will miss next year, and Florida's a decent candidate to get back in as well.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Yeah, Tampa didn't have their big star this year, but still put up a fight. Stevie Y actually seems to be a former player GM that has a clue as to what he's doing.

Zeeman
May 8, 2007

Say WHAT?! You KNOW that post is wack, homie!
Ottawa will be interesting next year. If Chabot can come in and be productive quickly, as rare as that is for rookie defencemen, that'll be really helpful for them. Also, if they leave Bobby Ryan available in the expansion draft and lose him, they'll have no choice but to shake things up somewhat and try to get more offence. Plus you should never doubt #TheSystem.

pseudodragon
Jun 16, 2007


So it looks like whatever was going on in Colorado got pretty weird, but Leaf fans can stop hyperventilating for now.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/friedman-window-closed-kyle-dubas-colorado/

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
The Canucks are Canada's team because they're an embarrassment and are never winning a cup ever

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fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
https://twitter.com/randyturner15/status/868178347083403267

:smith:

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