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Majorian posted:The notion that all voters who went for Trump are irredeemables who the Dems can't ever win, so they shouldn't try, is both a cop-out and a self-defeating mindset. ...That is proving increasingly true with each passing special election.
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:"Covoking" has officially replaced "Arzying" as the way this thread expresses anxiety The word "Arzying" was ruined on November 9th, 2016
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May 26, 2017 05:30
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CommissarMega posted:I'm no Yank, but I thought Montana was a deeply R state. If this Quist dude managed to lose by a small margin, then shouldn't you guys condier that a win? Especially if that dumb healthcare bill gets passed, then all you have to do is wait for the Great Republican Self Genocide and/or voter anger to carry 2018. This is what a lot of us are saying, but there's a lot of people in this forum whose brains got broken by Trump and automatically assume that any Dem loss signifies 1000 years of Republican darkness Fojar38 posted:The word "Arzying" was ruined on November 9th, 2016 Fair point. When I wasn't despairing about Trump I was feeling embarrassment for having told people to stop arzying
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May 26, 2017 05:30
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lmao wake up for a midnight snack and quist is getting the poo poo kicked out of him america is dead rip
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May 26, 2017 05:31
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CommissarMega posted:I'm no Yank, but I thought Montana was a deeply R state. If this Quist dude managed to lose by a small margin, then shouldn't you guys condier that a win? Especially if that dumb healthcare bill gets passed, then all you have to do is wait for the Great Republican Self Genocide and/or voter anger to carry 2018. You are right, but we dared to dream of victory in a deep-dark red hellhole. Coming close hurts even though it foreshadows good things in 2018.
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May 26, 2017 05:32
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Fojar38 posted:The word "Arzying" was ruined on November 9th, 2016 #Arzywasright just about the wrong election
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May 26, 2017 05:32
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DariusLikewise posted:Ahahhaha as a guy who sucker punched and choked out a reporter got elected, what the gently caress is wrong with Montana Can't let Minnesota have all the fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqv1TVHpkt4
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May 26, 2017 05:32
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Ein Sexmonster posted:Why? SurveyUSA are a good pollster,. Just because a polling company has generally good methodology doesn't mean they're immune to outliers. It's a statistical process.
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May 26, 2017 05:33
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Majorian posted:As others have pointed out, most Montana voters voted before the bodyslam. The notion that all voters who went for Trump are irredeemables who the Dems can't ever win, so they shouldn't try, is both a cop-out and a self-defeating mindset. Yeah, if you don't couple it with "Therefore we must work to increase voter turnout among those who don't believe ultra-retarded suicide-by-legislation things, because they actually make up the vast majority of the country."
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May 26, 2017 05:33
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CommissarMega posted:I'm no Yank, but I thought Montana was a deeply R state. If this Quist dude managed to lose by a small margin, then shouldn't you guys condier that a win? Especially if that dumb healthcare bill gets passed, then all you have to do is wait for the Great Republican Self Genocide and/or voter anger to carry 2018. How a state swings in a presidential election does not necessarily mean that's what its state politics are like. One of Montana's currently serving senators and its governor are Democratic.
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May 26, 2017 05:34
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The AP has called the race, its over. Good night.
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May 26, 2017 05:36
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empty whippet box posted:Yeah, if you don't couple it with "Therefore we must work to increase voter turnout among those who don't believe ultra-retarded suicide-by-legislation things, because they actually make up the vast majority of the country." Only rural voters matter and they will never vote d. Delaying the inevitable is a worthy cause but don't delude yourself.
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May 26, 2017 05:36
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Yeah sorry if a candidate I supported committed an unprovoked assault on a reporter then lied about it in a public statement the day before the election I would not vote for them. I realize most votes were previous to this but unless Quist won 90%+ of votes cast on election day, my point stands. The people who went to the polls and cast their vote for a literal criminal today can't be "won over" via platform changes.
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May 26, 2017 05:36
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:Fair point. When I wasn't despairing about Trump I was feeling embarrassment for having told people to stop arzying The fact that we can't tell people they're arzying anymore was the worst thing to come out of the 2016 election
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May 26, 2017 05:36
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I can understand why majorian believes he has something in common with trump voters after tonight, his wife chokeslammed him through a table just the other day
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May 26, 2017 05:37
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Unzip and Attack posted:Yeah sorry if a candidate I supported committed an unprovoked assault on a reporter then lied about it in a public statement the day before the election I would not vote for them. I realize most votes were previous to this but unless Quist won 90%+ of votes cast on election day, my point stands. The people who went to the polls and cast their vote for a literal criminal today can't be "won over" via platform changes. They boasted about it, too. In case anyone forgot.
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May 26, 2017 05:38
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"Hey it was only a small margin of a loss so it's a win right?" "Hey Senators you lost your bid for the Stanley Cup by only one goal and you were expected to lose by more than one goal so it's still a W, right?" I for one am glad we have set the norm that violent people who think retirement shouldn't exist because Noah built the Ark at age 600 are encouraged to make decisions on behalf of the American people. [/covok]
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May 26, 2017 05:39
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Bubbacub posted:Just because a polling company has generally good methodology doesn't mean they're immune to outliers. It's a statistical process. I agree. But without more data there's nothing to indicate that the +7 result is an outlier.
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May 26, 2017 05:40
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:I can understand why majorian believes he has something in common with trump voters after tonight, his wife chokeslammed him through a table just the other day I had it coming, in her defense. Unzip and Attack posted:Yeah sorry if a candidate I supported committed an unprovoked assault on a reporter then lied about it in a public statement the day before the election I would not vote for them. I realize most votes were previous to this but unless Quist won 90%+ of votes cast on election day, my point stands. The people who went to the polls and cast their vote for a literal criminal today can't be "won over" via platform changes. Maybe, but there's still a poo poo ton of voters you're leaving on the table who voted before the chokeslam, or just didn't hear about it at all.
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May 26, 2017 05:40
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I find it so funny that you people just don't learn. You seem to think like the world is just or righteous that you deserve some kind of justice. Justice is made by the system we live in. Outside of that system there is none. You sat around and let let republicans say on the internet and on television time and time again that Democrats are absolute evil, that it's ok to do anything no matter what it takes to stop them. You didn't have any real response or pushback. You couldn't come up with a strategy. In the days of Ancient Rome you would of been a Roman citizen in a village getting burned down by the Goths trying to run to the local roman legion "Help us help us" but they're all loving dead. You need to understand the winners make the rules in this world. And if you aren't the winners you're the losers. You need to understand the only thing that stopped hitler was the people who developed actual competent strategies to stop him. You need to realize it won't be the system, or the people in this country who are voting who will stop Donald Trump. It's up to you and your strategies. If your strategies aren't working than nothing is going to happen to stop this. Republicans can and will kill democrats like they did in Arizona. They will punch the press like they did in Montana and your response will continue to be crying on internet forums rubbing your hands without any kind of actual legitimate plan to stop them except saying "oh they are evil eventually people will vote for us." It's so loving weak and pathetic it makes me want to puke. If you are going to come up with a strategy to stop them it better be a god-damned good one. It can't be some lovely "oh lets hold press conferences on capital hill calling them names." bullshit. You have to be willing to die for your cause. And so far I'm not seeing much dying out there on the streets. There are no martyrs in America no Phan Thi Kim Phuc running from Napalm. You haven't given the American people an image or story shocking enough or strong enough to change their minds. And you won't win a war like this without some kind of sacrifice of the greatest kind. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 26, 2017 05:40
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May 26, 2017 05:41
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Boon posted:Yeah, that's the sweet part, it's not exactly 6million lost by the DNC for Quist since they've built the base for him a bit. Meanwhile, Dipshit McFlair gets to vote on an absolutely toxic GOP agenda. Will Quist run again in 2018?
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May 26, 2017 05:42
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Great the normalization of people being trash continues.
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May 26, 2017 05:44
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:I find it so funny that you people just don't learn. You seem to think like the world is just or righteous that you deserve some kind of justice. Justice is made by the system we live in. Outside of that system there is none. Sir, are you going to order or not?
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:I find it so funny that you people just don't learn. You seem to think like the world is just or righteous that you deserve some kind of justice. Justice is made by the system we live in. Outside of that system there is none. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ueu3y0kfJL4&t=30s
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May 26, 2017 05:44
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ZorajitZorajit posted:Ossoff isn't going to win. 
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May 26, 2017 05:46
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Gianforte won lol
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May 26, 2017 05:46
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May 26, 2017 05:49
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:I find it so funny that you people just don't learn. You seem to think like the world is just or righteous that you deserve some kind of justice. Justice is made by the system we live in. Outside of that system there is none. Lets start a badge system to represent how much we're devoting our lives to the cause. Donating to the food bank can only be obtained once, but you can get a continual service achievement if you manage to get vested in a public sector pension plan. 
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RuanGacho posted:Lets start a badge system to represent how much we're devoting our lives to the cause. Donating to the food bank can only be obtained once, but you can get a continual service achievement if you manage to get vested in a public sector pension plan. You only get the Pure Liberalism badge if you're stoned to death by baby boomers in the gutter
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May 26, 2017 05:51
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Smol posted:Gianforte won lol Well, have fun, Wyoming.
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May 26, 2017 05:51
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We're all desensitized by violence. Some people are simply horrified to numbness. Others feel that violence is necessary because the receiving end must have done something to deserve it anyways. At least until those with that viewpoint are themselves the victims. Still, Gianforte shouldn't have needed an assault charge to wake people up. It's insane that it's 2017 and someone who openly questions the necessity of retirement benefits because the Bible says so should have been laughed out before a single ballot was cast. People are so concentrated on picking liars, thieves, and idiots to govern because they're more concerned about sticking it to the other side than do what's best for themselves.
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May 26, 2017 05:52
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trickybiscuits posted:drat it! Wrong state, dipshit.
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May 26, 2017 05:52
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Will Quist run again in 2018? Who knows, but given a year and a half, there's really no reason not to
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May 26, 2017 05:54
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Well it was nice remembering Montana was a state for a brief 15 minutes. Back to obscurity you go!
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May 26, 2017 05:55
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How would all of you feel about the Dems running more socially conservative candidates in red states? That's a strategy that I've heard suggested a few times but I just can't see it working. What would be the line to draw? Pro-choice, pro-guns, anti-LGBT, anti-immigration? if they tried this wouldn't Republicans just run even more extreme social conservative candidates who would win anyway?
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May 26, 2017 05:57
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:A lot of people saying it's a good sign it was a close race and shows good signs for other races, but it was a race against a guy who violently assaulted a reporter the day before election day, do you really think future races are going to be handed such a freebie the day before the election? 2/3rds of votes were early votes cast before the assault. 9% of the 1/3 of voters that actually voted today surveyed said they voted for Quist because of the assault. That's in line with historic voter swing responses to late-stage scandals (~10%). And apparently tons of people unsuccessfully tried to change their early votes. The timing of everything sucked, but the assault seems to have had the effect that it likely should have. Let this election motivate you but don't let it drive you to despair.
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May 26, 2017 05:58
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trickybiscuits posted:drat it! it was michigan retard
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:I find it so funny that you people just don't learn. You seem to think like the world is just or righteous that you deserve some kind of justice. Justice is made by the system we live in. Outside of that system there is none. lol Man I though the dementia stuff was overblown but wow.
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