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Hope it being specifically a captain in gravis armor means you can get a Mk X captain with actual equipment options. Kitting out your warlord was always one of the more fun bits of making an army. Artum fucked around with this message at 19:34 on May 26, 2017 |
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Zaphod42 posted:I dunno about you guys but this seems like bullshit to me. This is all stupid speculation for dumb idiots, but I thiiiiink 8 power works out to around 150pts; the rubric marines cost 8 power in 8th and come with a 150pt price tag in 7th. Going by the same [rough/stupid] guidelines, I'd bet the captain costs more than 100pts. 
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May 26, 2017 19:35
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JesusIsTehCool posted:I'm looking forward to picking up cheap models once people giving 8th edition a chance figure out "game still bad" and sell their half painted models on ebay. me too for the exact same reason  
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have any of the lovely clickbait sites compiled a list of all the datasheets released to date? because i would click that link
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May 26, 2017 19:38
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OMG sriracha pudding! posted:This is all stupid speculation for dumb idiots, but I thiiiiink 8 power works out to around 150pts; the rubric marines cost 8 power in 8th and come with a 150pt price tag in 7th. Going by the same [rough/stupid] guidelines, I'd bet the captain costs more than 100pts. Terminator captains at present are 120 pts so seems around the right amount.
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Looks like the leaks are starting, I'd guess the demo rules for Warhammer Fest:  
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Has anyone's local shops posted the actual prices yet? Mine sent out this email last night.  From Brookhurst Hobbies in Garden Grove, CA.
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May 26, 2017 19:57
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So they're balancing the 3 x specialist detachments by them only giving 1 command point, seems fair.
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May 26, 2017 19:59
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Artum posted:Hope it being specifically a captain in gravis armor means you can get a Mk X captain with actual equipment options. Yeah the lack of wargear options is pretty lame.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah the lack of wargear options is pretty lame. Unfortunately I think that's the way future units are going to go. Too much complaining that you don't get all the pieces in box means that we can only choose from the pieces in the box.
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Artum posted:So they're balancing the 3 x specialist detachments by them only giving 1 command point, seems fair. This I like, a lot. What I REALLY don't like is the all LoW detachment getting 3 command points, because an all LoW army totally needs an extra boost.
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May 26, 2017 20:09
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BULBASAUR posted:Combat Gage? It's that dumb Aquila shaped thing. It's used to measure the new 1 inch combat range.
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Broken Record Talk posted:This I like, a lot. What I REALLY don't like is the all LoW detachment getting 3 command points, because an all LoW army totally needs an extra boost. Its 3 command points for a minimum of ~1.1k points and they're vulnerable to things that aren't lascannons now, if LoW armies are ever not going to be bullshit nows the time.
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May 26, 2017 20:14
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What are command dice and why the hell would you pay 20 bucks for them?
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DO IT TO IT posted:What are command dice and why the hell would you pay 20 bucks for them? Just your everyday GW overpriced dice, same as always Don't? 
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May 26, 2017 20:16
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I reckon I'll easily be able to get a full Ork Brigade detachment in low point games. Single kans and buggies wobbling about while all the points go elsewhere. It'll be nice to have an auxiliary Deathstrike missile because those are orky as heck.
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From what we see there it seems like orks nids and guard are going to have a much easier time filling out that brigade detachment for that tasty +9 command points in your average game. ^^^hah same thought same time.
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May 26, 2017 20:17
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10 dollars to measure 1"? lamo
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Broken Record Talk posted:This I like, a lot. What I REALLY don't like is the all LoW detachment getting 3 command points, because an all LoW army totally needs an extra boost. It'll mostly be for all Knight armies, and with the rebalancing it actually sounds like superheavies will actually fit into 40k now.
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BULBASAUR posted:10 dollars to measure 1"? lamo Please do not doxx my strip club habits tia
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MasterSlowPoke posted:It'll mostly be for all Knight armies, and with the rebalancing it actually sounds like superheavies will actually fit into 40k now. It's the 6 Wraithknights that also get 6 command points that I'm worried about!
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T8 is a lot less scary, and hopefully they fix the point cost this time around.
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Broken Record Talk posted:It's the 6 Wraithknights that also get 6 command points that I'm worried about! MasterSlowPoke posted:T8 is a lot less scary, and hopefully they fix the point cost this time around. It helps that they can't pieplate entire squads as easily now. Artum fucked around with this message at 20:38 on May 26, 2017 |
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Plus you only need 6 models to deny a knight army getting an objective
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BULBASAUR posted:10 dollars to measure 1"? lamo At least it's less than a third of the price than the AoS one.
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Seriously, what is New Edition New Army?
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Just a slogan that comes around every time any mini game gets a new edition. It's generally a good time to start a new army as you can be sure that you're getting the maximum time with it without worrying about the next edition.
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moths posted:Seriously, what is New Edition New Army? Filthy capitalism 
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moths posted:Seriously, what is New Edition New Army?  People are starting new armies to go with the new edition.
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 Shooting weapon types.
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What's the deal with extra command points for filling out a detachment? Is it a flat +3?
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You start with 3 points, then get the bonus for each detachment you have. So if you take the Battalion, Vanguard, and Auxiliary detachments, you'll have 3 + 3 + 1 - 1, so 6 CP to spend either before or during the game.
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Now that templates are gone I am curious what Stomp will do. I assume D3 or D6 mortal wounds or something.
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They didn't give the statline, but it looks like it's a weapon you can choose to use:quote:Another big change is how Stomps work. Previously, Stomps simply removed models entirely from the game on the roll of a 6. While this was useful for dealing with some problematic character-laden units which were hyper-durable, it could create gameplay situations which were not very satisfying for players when their favorite model was unceremoniously stomped into oblivion with no saves!
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Safety Factor posted:Seems pretty self-explanatory to me. Oh ok. Oops. I thought it was some organized thing, someone mentioned a voucher and I got confused.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:You start with 3 points, then get the bonus for each detachment you have. So if you take the Battalion, Vanguard, and Auxiliary detachments, you'll have 3 + 3 + 1 - 1, so 6 CP to spend either before or during the game. Right, but someone mentioned getting 9 points for filling out a brigade; I thought maybe there was a bonus for filling all the slots in a detachment
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Oh, no, just a Brigade is basically a full 7th edition CAD, so it'll take a lot to fill up the mandatory slots to get those 9 points.
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The detachments all seem really interesting to me. I like how the specialized ones are worth basically one third of the generalized ones, so they don't fall off too hard on usefulness. I don't see auxillary supports coming up too often, tbh, but I imagine it'll be helpful for slipping in an extra unit.
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The Bee posted:The detachments all seem really interesting to me. I like how the specialized ones are worth basically one third of the generalized ones, so they don't fall off too hard on usefulness. It mostly seems to be there to put knife in all the "My chaos demons are nice but i'll just take an inquisitor for servo skulls so you cant scout or infiltrate near me" bullshit lists.
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