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Sloober posted:gently caress yeah! You ride that rocketship to state fiscal crisis wisconsin! Do it. Holy poo poo do it right the gently caress now, as fast as you can.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Zuck is a lot of things but I really don't think he's an idiot. Agree to disagree then. A lot of these silicon valley dipshits do not impress me.
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Aves Maria! posted:there is no such thing as the "alt-left" I think there is, and I agree with the previous poster. I lurk a lot. You may want "Socialism Now!!" But if you've been lurking or posting here for awhile you've got to realize the climate in America doesn't support it on the national level just yet. It's all about baby steps and some movement is better than none when you're talking about being more fair to the average American. You've still got to do *something* for yourself though, holy hell...
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Majin posted:I think there is, and I agree with the previous poster. I lurk a lot. You may want "Socialism Now!!" But if you've been lurking or posting here for awhile you've got to realize the climate in America doesn't support it on the national level just yet. It's all about baby steps and some movement is better than none when you're talking about being more fair to the average American. Someone who wants socialism now is just a leftist, or part of the far left fringe if we're talking about American politics.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I agree but what label should we use for someone like Jimmy Dore? Moron?
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Majin posted:I think there is, and I agree with the previous poster. I lurk a lot. You may want "Socialism Now!!" But if you've been lurking or posting here for awhile you've got to realize the climate in America doesn't support it on the national level just yet. It's all about baby steps and some movement is better than none when you're talking about being more fair to the average American. How does simply being a socialist make you equivalent to an organized group of virulent racists and Nazis that have coopted a major political party? bc that's what you're implying with that stupid label. and if you seriously believe the two are at all equivalent you're an idiot, and gently caress you Aves Maria! fucked around with this message at 22:43 on May 26, 2017 |
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Majin posted:I think there is, and I agree with the previous poster. I lurk a lot. You may want "Socialism Now!!" But if you've been lurking or posting here for awhile you've got to realize the climate in America doesn't support it on the national level just yet. It's all about baby steps and some movement is better than none when you're talking about being more fair to the average American. No that's just extreme leftists and Marxists and stuff. The alt left doesn't exist because they're just Marxists and communists and they accept those labels. Nazis and fascists don't wanna use the label of Nazi and Fascist so they hide behind the label alt-right. That's literally why the term alt-right exists.
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May 26, 2017 22:42
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Groovelord Neato posted:is nothing sacred? the loving plinko guy too? no gods, all masters
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Majin posted:I think there is, and I agree with the previous poster. I lurk a lot. You may want "Socialism Now!!" But if you've been lurking or posting here for awhile you've got to realize the climate in America doesn't support it on the national level just yet. It's all about baby steps and some movement is better than none when you're talking about being more fair to the average American.
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Spun Dog posted:Agree to disagree then. A lot of these silicon valley dipshits do not impress me. I think Zuckerberg's motives are questionable but he is absolutely not an idiot, in any way, shape or form. The problem with the left is that so many view CEOs as worthless suits who don't contribute to their businesses when in fact many are actually brilliant strategic minds who can understand complex ideas and make hard choices as a result, while still allowing an ecosystem - a business - to thrive. I don't support a Zuck candidacy so I'm not saying "he ran a business so he can run government", but you don't run a company like Facebook without having at least a higher than average intelligence, and Zuck has it. Whether you like it or not or whether you like what he stands for, or not.
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AriadneThread posted:no gods, nothing matters
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In case you haven't noticed yet, Zuckerberg is a nerd.
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Majin posted:I think there is, and I agree with the previous poster. I lurk a lot. You may want "Socialism Now!!" But if you've been lurking or posting here for awhile you've got to realize the climate in America doesn't support it on the national level just yet. It's all about baby steps and some movement is better than none when you're talking about being more fair to the average American. The term "alt right" was mostly popularized by Richard Spencer. I really don't think anyone on the left has been trying to name themselves in his terms, the only usages of "alt left" I've seen have been poo poo like Hannity and other stalwart alt righters (i.e. white power advocates).
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pumpinglemma posted:For the metaphor to be accurate, the "alt-left" would need to be literal Stalinists, not just people who'd like healthcare in the US to work the same way it does everywhere else in the civilised world. And the tankies are out in force just not in this thread
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What are "tankies"? people who honestly think Stalin did nothing wrong. There's probably a handful of them and no one cares about them so comparing them to the alt-right is beyond dumb
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May 26, 2017 22:47
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Aves Maria! posted:people who honestly think Stalin did nothing wrong. There's probably a handful of them and no one cares about them so comparing them to the alt-right is beyond dumb I thought that was more of a neo-fascist Putin thing.
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May 26, 2017 22:47
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I hope someone has information on the random hobo that killed Seth Rich and Martin Skittles has to pay that person $100,000.
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Ekster posted:I thought that was more of a neo-fascist Putin thing. There are definitely a ton of extreme leftists who think that Stalin was good. But not in a horseshoe theory crap way, I don't mean to make some false equivalence.
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Ekster posted:I thought that was more of a neo-fascist Putin thing. Nah, it dates back to the Soviets invading their Warsaw Pact "allies" whenever they tried to reform anything.
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Aves Maria! posted:people who honestly think Stalin did nothing wrong. There's probably a handful of them and no one cares about them so comparing them to the alt-right is beyond dumb How big is the alt-right actually? They're loud, but I've always suspected the coverage they got was disproportionate.
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Mahoning posted:I hope someone has information on the random hobo that killed Seth Rich and Martin Skittles has to pay that person $100,000. i hope a random hobo has information on the fox newsperson who killed Seth Rich and then Martin Shkreli has to pay that hobo $100,000 also Sean Hannity gets the death penalty
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I've bought shares in the word cuckerberg, im gonna be even richer than he is
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Majin posted:I think there is, and I agree with the previous poster. I lurk a lot. You may want "Socialism Now!!" But if you've been lurking or posting here for awhile you've got to realize the climate in America doesn't support it on the national level just yet. It's all about baby steps and some movement is better than none when you're talking about being more fair to the average American. polls show americans favor social democracy like the nordic model.
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Dexo posted:2020 Primaries gonna own(thread) The audio being out of sync with the video is really triggering me.
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Groovelord Neato posted:polls show americans favor social democracy like the nordic model. Just don't put the word "socialism" within a hundred miles of any poll question about it.
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CelestialScribe posted:I think Zuckerberg's motives are questionable but he is absolutely not an idiot, in any way, shape or form. The problem with the left is that so many view CEOs as worthless suits who don't contribute to their businesses when in fact many are actually brilliant strategic minds who can understand complex ideas and make hard choices as a result, while still allowing an ecosystem - a business - to thrive. Dude, he described himself in 2010 in a party as a fish out of water who felt like he was undeserving of the stroke of luck he had in being able to poach Sandberg as COO. In person he is awkward as hell and appears not to have improved on that front. He has trouble eloquently answering questions off the cuff. He's not a leader, and my opinion here is backed by a number of friends who have jogged the FB / Google / MS circuit before settling in with their long term gigs. Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 22:55 on May 26, 2017 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Won't. Trump is an attention addict. Not unless the lawyers follow him into the bathroom every morning. Yeah, even if they do this he'll find some other outlet to gently caress himself over publicly.
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Aves Maria! posted:people who honestly think Stalin did nothing wrong. There's probably a handful of them and no one cares about them so comparing them to the alt-right is beyond dumb I mean, one of them is a mod of this very forum, so they have some reach, at least. 
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TildeATH posted:You pay federal property taxes? your property taxes go to your town or city.
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Grapplejack posted:I mean, one of them is a mod of this very forum, so they have some reach, at least. Who?
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Rinkles posted:How big is the alt-right actually? They're loud, but I've always suspected the coverage they got was disproportionate. big enough to be tastemakers for half of the Republican party. When the Ds get candidates elected on the platform of "actually the gulags were good" then "alt-left" and its implication will have a right to exist
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Rinkles posted:How big is the alt-right actually? They're loud, but I've always suspected the coverage they got was disproportionate. About 49% of the electorate
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:About 49% of the electorate That's disingenuous as gently caress.
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Grapplejack posted:I mean, one of them is a mod of this very forum, so they have some reach, at least. lol good one
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only a quarter of the electorate voted for trump. a quarter of people are always going to be insanely stupid.
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Aves Maria! posted:big enough to be tastemakers for half of the Republican party. I wasn't suggesting the initial comparison had merit.
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Flesh Forge posted:The term "alt right" was mostly popularized by Richard Spencer. I really don't think anyone on the left has been trying to name themselves in his terms, the only usages of "alt left" I've seen have been poo poo like Hannity and other stalwart alt righters (i.e. white power advocates). I don't believe there has either. And I don't agree with Hannity's label of it either, which I'd attribute to the real attempt to try and normalize the alt-right. I don't agree with a single ioata of Trump's agenda, nor his blatant attempts to discriminate against women, minorities or the LGBTQ community as a whole, but sometimes I feel there is a sub-section of posters on here that I can't quantify that seem to act even more persecuted than any of these groups that seems to be a bit excessive. Can anyone categorize them for me so I'm not making the mistake of lumping any of these others into the same basket?
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