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khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

sassassin posted:

But the joke in those episodes is Craig telling the main kids that they enable all these wacky adventures to happen every week. They can just walk away at any point and things won't get worse/sillier. They're to blame.

And then he's the chosen one.

That's a bit beside the point, which is that I think that South Park tends to come up with funny sounding premises but generally doesn't do a very good job following up on those premises and often ends up making obvious or repetitive jokes from them.

khwarezm fucked around with this message at 01:04 on May 23, 2017

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Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
Southparks best moments are the rick and Morty esque stuff where they're obviously adlibbing and having fun with the content. Anything drawn out or re-referenced can get painful cause it's obvious how much they're trying to rush it through

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

Post more fake Simpsons episodes, they're hella good.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Warbird posted:

Post more fake Simpsons episodes, they're hella good.
listen to the latest ep of Cum Town where nick comes up with Red Pilled Homer

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Warbird posted:

Post more fake Simpsons episodes, they're hella good.

What do you mean "fake"

These are real episodes

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

TF2 HAT MINING RIG posted:

Maybe the last season would have been more coherent if the election results weren't so crazy in the real world.
Ehhh, even so, they were really running gags thin every week with the same drat "jokes" like the member berries and the online trolling. Cartman being a bland "good-guy" was aggravating and the other main kids and Randy were barely in the season. I never want to see any of those episodes again and would prefer to think that they didn't even happen.

Mad Doctor Cthulhu
Mar 3, 2008

khwarezm posted:

Regardless of their middle of the road preachiness my problem with South Park is that its just never been that funny or clever. It feels they come up with a basic idea that could lead to funny stuff, but never seem to know how to actually pull it off properly and stretch out that funny concept until its really not funny at all. Like they have some kind of zany premise like giant Guinea Pigs attack the town because Homeland Security cracked down on Peruvian Flute bands and that's... kind of it, the zaniness of the plot is the joke and they don't go much further than that. It also feels like they call-back too much to well know plots or jokes from previous episodes and have too many running gags, which also a problem I have with contemporary Simpsons.

It might be an effect of its rapid production, for something like Rick and Morty or Golden Age Simpsons I get the impression they would spend a huge amount of time hammering out the really funny stuff from any given concept and sharpening their delivery before anything was finished.

I always assumed the quick production times were due to the show just being a fast paycheck and nothing more. Nothing is lazier than doing a current events show with a slight twist on it (especially when the politics is the intellectually lazy 'the truth is in the middle') and I get the feeling the guys got on Comedy Central's good side and have been riding the easy paycheck for a while. Oddly enough, much like the Simpsons. Unless you're doing the animating, it must be a good gig to pound out an episode on the quick and then spend the majority of the year doing anything else.

54 40 or gently caress posted:

Are the above episodes real because they sound plausible

Pretty much this.

Last Chance posted:

Pretty sure those aren't real just because it feels like some thought went into them

And pretty much this.

JazzFlight posted:

Ehhh, even so, they were really running gags thin every week with the same drat "jokes" like the member berries and the online trolling. Cartman being a bland "good-guy" was aggravating and the other main kids and Randy were barely in the season. I never want to see any of those episodes again and would prefer to think that they didn't even happen.

I think South Park's laziness wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't just so unnecessary. Trey and Matt have some good stories left in them and they are definitely more on the ball than the Simpsons writers by the sheer virtue of still being with the show they created. I remember the episode 'You're Getting Old' as being pretty heavy stuff that also had a few laughs and wasn't afraid to get into some areas that American animation doesn't really get into. It's a more personal look that as a season finale was downright depressing...and that's a good thing. It breaks the norm. It makes a statement and is interesting to watch even if it's hard to. But then you get the other stuff and.....well....I'd rather have a show that has some thought put into it than an afterthought because a contract has to be fulfilled. In a way, I think this whole idea comes from the fact that the Simpsons didn't do this. They went from a pretty good show that had its own personality and became television wallpaper and has remained that way (with a few exceptions) for the last seventeen years.

Sponge Baathist
Jan 30, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Lenny Leonard and Carl Carlson enter a domestic partnership in order to pay less taxes out of necessity because Lenny is piss broke. Turns out Carl is a Nigerian prince's heir and the second half of the episode is spent with the two fighting over if it's Carl's money or if Lenny can get a solid gold head. Side plot involves Milhouse getting bullied and becoming friends with Ralph so he can steal Wiggum's gun and use it to scare bullies. (Guest starring Jermaine Dupri and Chris Rock)

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

I'm fairly sure that's a real episode and that I've seen it. This concerns me greatly.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Warbird posted:

I'm fairly sure that's a real episode and that I've seen it. This concerns me greatly.

I haven't even seen it but I think I read it before in this thread

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

khwarezm posted:

Regardless of their middle of the road preachiness my problem with South Park is that its just never been that funny or clever.

the original web video that started the whole thing, with santa fighting jesus, was funny at that time, in the context of the internet of that period, when there were not a million other easily accessible funnier videos to compare it to

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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this randomly showed up in my youtube feed and it reminded me of just how loving funny the simpsons used to be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bXjWRXDFV8

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004
Toss up between time Homer got raped by a dolphin and that time he got arrested for insulting beef

Mustached5thGrader
Oct 1, 2011

My mother won't let me grow a goatee.

Fojar38 posted:

this randomly showed up in my youtube feed and it reminded me of just how loving funny the simpsons used to be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bXjWRXDFV8

That's post season 9...,

Neukoln19
Oct 27, 2005
wow that tik tok video was really really hard to watch

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

Neukoln19 posted:

wow that tik tok video was really really hard to watch

Yeah but even those first few seasons we originally thought sucked are still better than what it's been for the last 15 or so years.

Cobweb Heart
Mar 31, 2010

I need you to wear this. I need you to wear this all the time. It's office policy.

Mustached5thGrader posted:

That's post season 9...,

it was a funny episode though. It's only two seasons afterward, in a season that concluded with "behind the laughter". my first and for some time only exposure to the show was a book my brother left lying around that provided quotes and synopses for each episode of like seasons 9 and 10, so i'm willing to keep going after 9. only in the years since that we've passed its creamy middle and reached the terrible lows.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Cobweb Heart posted:

it was a funny episode though. It's only two seasons afterward, in a season that concluded with "behind the laughter". my first and for some time only exposure to the show was a book my brother left lying around that provided quotes and synopses for each episode of like seasons 9 and 10, so i'm willing to keep going after 9. only in the years since that we've passed its creamy middle and reached the terrible lows.

That's like the saddest version of finding your dad's old porn mags possible

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!
All I have to say is somehow, someway Fox kept this show running for 30 years and even the voice actors are in it for the money holding the show up under the guise of "artistic credibility".

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Justin Godscock posted:

All I have to say is somehow, someway Fox kept this show running for 30 years and even the voice actors are in it for the money holding the show up under the guise of "artistic credibility".

that doesn't really make sense to me. those voice actors have to have a LOT of money at this point, and even if they stopped working today they'd still get a bunch of income in royalties and basically they could easily live very very comfortably without ever having to go into work again if they wanted to

I don't believe it's "artistic credibility" either because the show hasnt had any in over a decade, but maybe they are bound by some satanic contract or something

Earwicker fucked around with this message at 13:53 on May 25, 2017

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Earwicker posted:

that doesn't really make sense to me. those voice actors have to have a LOT of money at this point, and even if they stopped working today they'd still get a bunch of income in royalties and basically they could easily live very very comfortably without ever having to go into work again if they wanted to

I don't believe it's "artistic credibility" either because the show hasnt had any in over a decade, but maybe they are bound by some satanic contract or something

The thing is, why stop the gravy train? From what I read somewhere the voice actors don't put in much work (I guess that's why the voice acting the new seasons is so dull) yet get paid handsomely, why stop that? And I wouldn't be surprised that on some level the voice actors enjoy the work, or find some sort of purpose in it.

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed
Don't they literally phone it in now

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Cobweb Heart posted:

it was a funny episode though. It's only two seasons afterward, in a season that concluded with "behind the laughter". my first and for some time only exposure to the show was a book my brother left lying around that provided quotes and synopses for each episode of like seasons 9 and 10, so i'm willing to keep going after 9. only in the years since that we've passed its creamy middle and reached the terrible lows.

I had the one with seasons 1-8. :smuggo: best bathroom book you can own.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

54 40 or gently caress posted:

Don't they literally phone it in now

Yes.
The gags about Krusty recording a couple of phrases for a talking Krusty doll in a single take and then leaving to go golfing are pretty close to the reality now for the voice actors.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

canyoneer posted:

Yes.
The gags about Krusty recording a couple of phrases for a talking Krusty doll in a single take and then leaving to go golfing are pretty close to the reality now for the voice actors.

You don't even have to go to the studio to do it anymore.

Cobweb Heart
Mar 31, 2010

I need you to wear this. I need you to wear this all the time. It's office policy.

Aesop Poprock posted:

That's like the saddest version of finding your dad's old porn mags possible

Don't jerk off to the simpsons creep

Irradiation
Sep 14, 2005

I understand your frustration.
I'm rewatching season 9 right and just hit the Principal and the Pauper. Yeah the premise is stupid as poo poo but its still got solid jokes.

StupidSexyVaultGuy
Jul 26, 2003



Cobweb Heart posted:

Don't jerk off to the simpsons creep

Bart I'm piss

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Cobweb Heart posted:

it was a funny episode though. It's only two seasons afterward, in a season that concluded with "behind the laughter". my first and for some time only exposure to the show was a book my brother left lying around that provided quotes and synopses for each episode of like seasons 9 and 10, so i'm willing to keep going after 9. only in the years since that we've passed its creamy middle and reached the terrible lows.
a golden age simpsons clip would have provided multiple laughs in a span of 15-20 seconds. that clip took 30 seconds to make a single joke. today's simpsons would drag this clip for three minutes and beat whatever humor it had into the ground

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Cobweb Heart posted:

Don't jerk off to the simpsons creep

Seriously, why is Simpsons porn is so prolific on the internet?

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Guy Mann posted:

Seriously, why is Simpsons porn is so prolific on the internet?

is someone actually asking this in 2017?

Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

I am the Wizard Master
Welp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21lhiKfc1p4

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Will this make me cringe so hard my rear end in a top hat falls out?

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i saw the title of the video and immediately closed the tab

when did the simpsons get partisan? in the classic days, they were cynical towards republicans (for being cartoonishly evil) and democrats (for being incompetent morons, plus mayor quimby was a caricature of the worst parts of JFK)

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


get that OUT of my face posted:

when did the simpsons get partisan?

Season 1 episode 1. But they were actually funny about it so it wasn't so noticeable.

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

get that OUT of my face posted:

i saw the title of the video and immediately closed the tab

when did the simpsons get partisan? in the classic days, they were cynical towards republicans (for being cartoonishly evil) and democrats (for being incompetent morons, plus mayor quimby was a caricature of the worst parts of JFK)

They were always super partisan. I mean Quimby being a horndog is one thing, but they make it as clear as possible that the Republicans 'Evil Dracula style headquarters whose candidate commits mass voter fraud and flies off on a rant about how people love despotic tyrants instead of true democracy' were way worse.

Personally I find this quite odd, one of the things I disliked about the Simpsons long decline was how politically inert and safe it became (They mocked H.W Bush and Clinton tons while they were in power, but they never mentioned George Bush at all, or any of the other crazy political stuff happening during his tenure?) but recent season have tried to reverse that course in the clunkiest, crappiest way. As we can see here.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

khwarezm posted:

Personally I find this quite odd, one of the things I disliked about the Simpsons long decline was how politically inert and safe it became (They mocked H.W Bush and Clinton tons while they were in power, but they never mentioned George Bush at all, or any of the other crazy political stuff happening during his tenure?) but recent season have tried to reverse that course in the clunkiest, crappiest way. As we can see here.
meh, they're no better or worse at being politically heavy-handed and unfunny than every other tv show that does the same thing. stuff like Sideshow Bob Roberts was funny in addition to being spot-on with his rant at the end of the episode

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

khwarezm posted:

They were always super partisan. I mean Quimby being a horndog is one thing, but they make it as clear as possible that the Republicans 'Evil Dracula style headquarters whose candidate commits mass voter fraud and flies off on a rant about how people love despotic tyrants instead of true democracy' were way worse.

Eh, all the way back in season 3 you had this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JECng2RTOw&t=169s

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

they did take the piss out of democrats but i'd say it's accurate that they leaned in harder on republicans. the thing was, they were funny back then no matter who they were targeting

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Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
"Grampa, didn't you wonder why you were getting money for doing absolutely nothing?"
"I figured it was because the Democrats were in power again."

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