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BravestOfTheLamps posted:avshalom was permabanned TBF, it was pretty amazing watching him break in real time like that.
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RIP Av, you had a good run.
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Too many people are putting out more work related to Rothfuss' work than he is.
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Pounded in the Butt by the True Name of My Own Butt.
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cut-butt sound of a butt waiting to be pounded
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RentACop posted:cut-butt sound of a butt waiting to be pounded New thread title.
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It was the sound of a butt in three parts. Clearly, something had gone horribly wrong.
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StonecutterJoe posted:It was the sound of a butt in three parts.
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boneration posted:
After the embarrassment of the sexcapades in WMF I'd say Chuck Tingle's 3rd book for kingkiller would be better than whatever Rothfuss would write if he was still writing.
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Evil Fluffy posted:After the embarrassment of the sexcapades in WMF I'd say Chuck Tingle's 3rd book for kingkiller would be better than whatever Rothfuss would write if he was still writing.
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Kvothe has secretly been pursuing Denna because she's the only dom on his entire world. Same reason the Chandrian are after her too; they just want to do some freaky sex poo poo with their immortality.
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Benson Cunningham posted:Kvothe has secretly been pursuing Denna because she's the only dom on his entire world. Same reason the Chandrian are after her too; they just want to do some freaky sex poo poo with their immortality.
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So, what the gently caress happened with all the segments that were clearly cut out of the second book? The storm at sea was a footnote despite Chekov's lute case being clearly set up on the mantle. The end clearly cut segments out and read like writing up the margins of a post it note that had run out of room. Did Rothfuss basically run out of time, or did he only get two or three drafts done?
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You're saying you wanted the second book to be longer? Real answer, it was Rothfuss' attempt at thwarting conventions. In a conventional fantasy book interesting things happen to the main character, in this we read about a guy going to college and loving girls.
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Solice Kirsk posted:You're saying you wanted the second book to be longer? Real answer, it was Rothfuss' attempt at thwarting conventions. In a conventional fantasy book interesting things happen to the main character, in this we read about a guy going to college and loving girls. It's still a fantasy book, though, so he fucks fairy for his first time, and he fucks her so good that she teaches him to gently caress even better. And the human women that he fucks are women that somehow don't know the biological implications of sex, and are also the best at sex in the human world, and teach him to gently caress i]even better[/i]. He also molests some sleeping girls, but whatever, forget that.
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Potato Salad posted:Did Rothfuss basically run out of time, or did he only get two or three drafts done? Rothfuss is the dark mirror that all artists eventually look into. When we look at Rothfuss we are warned about our worst future: being a lazy bearded weirdo who pretends to write books but actually just blogs about how he is personally traumatized by his high school crush who maybe went in to porn its actually kind of murky and unsure but this has crippled him. Also he's a feminist and that's why he can't write cool naval adventures but can write about nailing sex fairies and feeling up victims of sex trafficking, when he bothers at all and isn't being a lazy bearded weirdo. Rothfuss is a nightmare in 3 parts.
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Man, given the questions that needed to be answered in the second book, I can understand the need to make the second book longer in order to address these issues but it was such a slog to get through.
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TV Zombie posted:Man, given the questions that needed to be answered in the second book, I can understand the need to make the second book longer in order to address these issues but it was such a slog to get through. This would have been fine if he answered anything in the second book. He mostly just raised new questions and at best we got was some alternate names and the symbols of the Chandrian. The latter of that is kind of important, I guess, except the two big ones that are the only sign you'll find without already running into them is the poo poo we knew from when they killed his parents. Hell when he DID meet Cinder the guy's sign was nowhere to be seen. Kchama fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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How is the second book being a slog any different than the first book?
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Atlas Hugged posted:How is the second book being a slog any different than the first book? felurian
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Atlas Hugged posted:How is the second book being a slog any different than the first book? Because almost everyone expected book 2 to finish Kvothe's school hijinks and start in on all his legendary adventures but instead was a wet fart of a sequel that has him still halfway to graduation.
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pentyne posted:Because almost everyone expected book 2 to finish Kvothe's school hijinks and start in on all his legendary adventures but instead was a wet fart of a sequel that has him still halfway to graduation. You read a whole book of B-League Harry Potter shenanigans and expected the sequel to be better or different. That's on you, bud.
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Atlas Hugged posted:How is the second book being a slog any different than the first book? There are three key differences: 1) The second book is way longer. Like easily an extra two-thirds-again as long. 2) The second book blatantly degenerates into creepy sexual fantasies halfway through. 3) The first book is the first of a trilogy, and its setting is a magic academy where the hero gains skills. In that context, it's easy to go, "Okay, not a lot is happening now, but that's because it's just starting out and setting the stage, it must be building to something, surely if I read further it will all pay off and there will be adventures at the other end." But the second book is the heart of the trilogy, we've already spent an entire book setting the stage, and the hero is off having adventures. And yet... it's still boring. The adventures don't even feel like they're building up to anything, since each of them is completely disconnected from all of the others, with no main plot running through them and no overlapping characters at all. It's more like a bunch of random sidequests than anything else, and it ends with the hero exactly where he started, nothing built toward any main story at all. The promise that the story will be more interesting later has been removed, and you are forced to accept that the slog you're currently reading is all you'll ever get. The house of cards collapses, and once it does, the first book is retroactively dragged down to the second book's level, since it was build on smoke and mirrors and false promises.
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I guess what I'm saying is that I've read a lot of first books in a series, frequently planned trilogies that ballooned, and if the first book was a boring slog I didn't bother going forward.
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Atlas Hugged posted:You read a whole book of B-League Harry Potter shenanigans and expected the sequel to be better or different. That's on you, bud. No, actually that would be The Magicians, which is a Lev Grossman novel that is so excrutiatingly bad trash college Harry Potter-but-adult with a protagonist more offensive than Kvothe and is equally, if not more creepy towards women than Wise Man's Fear. I mean, the rear end in a top hat protagonist is the most self-absorbed, useless, heroin-addicted piece of poo poo I've ever had the misfortune to read about, the story is loving unengaging and stupid and leaves you depressed and dissatisfied. The only thing better about that book is that unlike Rothfuss's third book, it has actually materialized on paper.
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The Magicians Trilogy is pretty good once you come to the realization that aside from the main character most of the people are decent. It's just that the main character is utterly irredeemable. He keeps getting kicked out of the Narnia equivalent because the land itself rejects him, it's great.
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More than one book can be B-league Harry Potter fan fiction.
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Atlas Hugged posted:More than one book can be B-league Harry Potter fan fiction. Well yeah. But if we're making a list, The Magicians is the more crap. I mean, not by a huge margin, but still. Of course, that's set to change now that Rothfuss is never finishing his third book in which something, anything, will happen hopefully.
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It just seems counterintuitive to me that after reading a long rear end book where nothing happened someone would think the solution to that would be an even longer book.
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I was just hoping that with the second book, Kvothe would have gone into his KingKiller name, or at least provided some confirmation to the myths attributed to him or at the very least gone back to finishing his story and get back to dealing with the creatures that he dealt with outside of the inn. I feel like those are an example of simple small things that Rothfuss could have addressed given the length of the second book. I would have been happy with that.
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Atlas Hugged posted:It just seems counterintuitive to me that after reading a long rear end book where nothing happened someone would think the solution to that would be an even longer book. I actually like the first book well enough, and it set up a lot of things to happen.And then we get to WMF, and none of them really did. All he did was whine about being poor a bunch, have really good sex a whole bunch of times, and learn a secret ninja martial art because he was so good at sex. You know, things he's famous for in his legend.
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SpacePig posted:I actually like the first book well enough, and it set up a lot of things to happen.And then we get to WMF, and none of them really did. All he did was whine about being poor a bunch, have really good sex a whole bunch of times, and learn a secret ninja martial art because he was so good at sex. You know, things he's famous for in his legend. That's not that far off from the legend bits. Kvothe posted:I have spent the night with Felurian and left with both my sanity and my life. Cob posted:“Now you’ve got to remember, this is back when Kvothe was just a pup. He ain’t got no sword, and even if he did, he ain’t learned to fight proper from the Adem yet.”
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The story of Kvothe is supposed to be how the legends about him aren't as on-the-nose as they are known. The second book makes it clear that these legends are actually on-the-nose. Kind of defeats the point of getting into his life in the first place, unless you like creepy sex fantasies.
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As has been pointed out before it's not even good creepy sex fantasy.
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Sage Grimm posted:The story of Kvothe is supposed to be how the legends about him aren't as on-the-nose as they are known. The second book makes it clear that these legends are actually on-the-nose. Even in the first book he burned down the town of Trebon, was expelled (suspended) by the University, and wrote songs that made the minstrels weep. The only thing that wasn't on the nose was the dragon bit.
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He also did the "Kvothe the Bloodless" thing on a technicality. That's basically the only thing that's been less true than he let on in the beginning. Everything else is pretty much exactly as described in the beginning. I forgot that the Felurian and the Adem were in his legend, honestly.
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The only thing that redeemed the first book was the mystery teasing. "All of this world building will matter, right?" It's presented as a mystery novel, we know the end but need to figure out the 5 Ws. The second novel shits on that concept completely.
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What RPG system do you think Rothfuss uses to playtest the Kingkiller stories?
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His own and he plans to release it as soon as he's finished polishing it up which shouldn't take too long since the core rules are pretty much written and it's really just a few abilities to fill in and some editing that needs to be done.
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