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Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

Under the vegetable posted:

Like Chapo should probably hire an audio guy or spend ten minutes figuring out how to mix Matt's audio into the show properly if they're going to be making a million dollars a year or whatever ludicrous dollar amount this podcast pulls in.

What's their setup? It always sounds like they're recording Matt via skype call. IDK why they don't have him record his audio separately.

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Serf
May 5, 2011


Magic Hate Ball posted:

What's their setup? It always sounds like they're recording Matt via skype call. IDK why they don't have him record his audio separately.

in his periscope thing that's what he said he does. seems like it's been fixed recently as he now sounds normal.

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

SunAndSpring posted:

I don't really feel that gaming causes libertarian/reactionary views so much as the type of person who can afford to game frequently enough for it to be a real hobby (as gaming is far more expensive than other comparable hobbies thanks to DRM, DLC, microtransactions, gaming platforms and games being expensive, et cetera) turn out to be white dudes with lots of disposable income and that's really the prime target for dumb reactionary poo poo these days. So I don't really agree with Matt's view on gaming somehow being more alienating than burning oneself out on Harry Potter slashfic or becoming a Randroid after reading Atlas Shrugged.

I agree with the point you're making but your reasoning is off. A $60 game bought on sale after a price drop for $15 can give someone hundreds of hours of playtime. That's way more affordable and far more entertainment value per dollar than anything I would consider a comparable hobby.

The things that make gaming less accessible are a somewhat large initial investment to get started (a PC or console) and the excessive amount of leisure time required to game frequently enough to be the kind of rear end in a top hat that identifies as a gamer.

SMP
May 5, 2009

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

He is apparently changing his set and costume because so many people think the "dictator standing at a podium surrounded by his favorite toys" thing is serious, which honestly says more about internet game commenters as a whole than it does Jim Sterling.

I never watched more than like one video of his, but this is the impression I got :v:. I thought he was some unholy mashup of Total Biscuit and Sargon.

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

Thaddius the Large posted:

That's exactly what it sounded like to me, a bit. Maybe it didn't land as well, but I thought it was funny how they were painstakingly deconstructing every single last element of Huckabee's tweets to try and find a shred of humor, or getting intensely agitated about who knows more about frozen ground deer meat. Felt in line with Cross's stuff like, well, pretty much all of The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret, cringing your way through a painful situation so horrible it comes all the way around to being funny again.

it seemed really out of place considering before that Cross wasn't in character at all.

the deconstruction of the tweets was gold though

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Regulus74 posted:

I agree with the point you're making but your reasoning is off. A $60 game bought on sale after a price drop for $15 can give someone hundreds of hours of playtime. That's way more affordable and far more entertainment value per dollar than anything I would consider a comparable hobby.

The things that make gaming less accessible are a somewhat large initial investment to get started (a PC or console) and the excessive amount of leisure time required to game frequently enough to be the kind of rear end in a top hat that identifies as a gamer.

If your thesis is that video games disengage people from being active citizens who have face-to-face interactions with each other, presenting an argument based on price/value (hours played) doesn't do what you think it does.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


SMP posted:

I never watched more than like one video of his, but this is the impression I got :v:. I thought he was some unholy mashup of Total Biscuit and Sargon.

He couldn't be further from Sargon if he tried, politically.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
tb and sargon affect that because they legitimately think it makes them look cool

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
I enjoyed the David Cross episode, but it did feel 'off' somewhat, and that's because we're used to people like James Adomian and Twitter personalities that know the Chapo crew personally and journos who are actually good lefties like Taibbi and Scahill. They can fit in far more readily than a David Cross or Patton Oswalt (who I hope comes on Chapo sometime) because they are either fans already or friends already.

yoober
Nov 21, 2010

Regulus74 posted:

I agree with the point you're making but your reasoning is off. A $60 game bought on sale after a price drop for $15 can give someone hundreds of hours of playtime. That's way more affordable and far more entertainment value per dollar than anything I would consider a comparable hobby.

content consumption isn't a hobby

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Apoplexy posted:

I enjoyed the David Cross episode, but it did feel 'off' somewhat, and that's because we're used to people like James Adomian and Twitter personalities that know the Chapo crew personally and journos who are actually good lefties like Taibbi and Scahill. They can fit in far more readily than a David Cross or Patton Oswalt (who I hope comes on Chapo sometime) because they are either fans already or friends already.

Don't they think Patton Oswalt is a dumb lib?

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Henchman of Santa posted:

Don't they think Patton Oswalt is a dumb lib?

Yeah but he tweeted about becoming a grey wolf not long after the election

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
Yeah, that. I just know he follows them on Twitter and would likely agree with them on 99% of the poo poo they believe, just like most smart people do. Also, Rebecca Traister's name came up yesterday, writing a fellatio piece on Hillary Clinton for NYMag. Anyone remember which episode it was where they mentioned her? She wrote ALL THE SINGLE LADIES~ and was wrong about everything, as you could expect.

Serf
May 5, 2011


dumb libs, especially those without money, are just one bad day away from being a socialist

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

Serf posted:

dumb libs, especially those without money, are just one bad day away from being a socialist

I think that's a lot of why you're seeing a rise in popularity for Chapo and the DSA and Bernie. Chapo's got 14k subs. Bernie's the #1 most favorably-viewed politician in America. DSA I'm hearing poo poo about for the first time ever. Trump's election was that Bad Day for everyone. Hillbots pushed back against reality by denying that Hillary was entirely at fault even before the 500 external factors like Russia and Comey. Everyone else is turning to the left and seeing that, yeah, a $15 minimum wage and Medicare For All are pretty loving great ideas right about now.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Video Game's

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Serf posted:

dumb libs, especially those without money, are just one bad day away from being a socialist

Fair enough. That day came in November for a lot of people.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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GalacticAcid posted:

Video Game's

Frig yeah!

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Serf posted:

in his periscope thing that's what he said he does. seems like it's been fixed recently as he now sounds normal.

Yeah I just noticed catching up. Sick.

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Phone posted:

If your thesis is that video games disengage people from being active citizens who have face-to-face interactions with each other, presenting an argument based on price/value (hours played) doesn't do what you think it does.

That's not my thesis. The point of my post was that it's the initial investment rather than a continual monetary commitment or ludicrous pricing that makes gaming more accessible to people like Ian Miles Cheong. Video games aren't prohibitively expensive compared to something like Warhammer.

yoober posted:

content consumption isn't a hobby

IAWTP, I was using the terminology the person I responded to used.

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever

Serf posted:

dumb libs, especially those without money, are just one bad day away from being a socialist

this is why it's mostly counterproductive to make fun of liberals outside of the media class. they probably agree with you 95%, but resent being mocked from the left for accepting the label

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

Serf posted:

in his periscope thing that's what he said he does. seems like it's been fixed recently as he now sounds normal.

He sounded better on the last few because he was in the room for them. He'll go back to screaming from the bottom of a well soon enough.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Regulus74 posted:

That's not my thesis. The point of my post was that it's the initial investment rather than a continual monetary commitment or ludicrous pricing that makes gaming more accessible to people like Ian Miles Cheong. Video games aren't prohibitively expensive compared to something like Warhammer.


IAWTP, I was using the terminology the person I responded to used.

It was Matt's thesis, and I'm good at grammar.

Like pointing out that you can get gets for cheap doesn't really address the problem of people disengaging from society nor that capitalists are cynical as hell and have no issues nickel and diming their customer base to death with stuff like the free-to-play model.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Puppy Galaxy posted:

He sounded better on the last few because he was in the room for them. He'll go back to screaming from the bottom of a well soon enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFGfWrJR5Ck

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Trabisnikof posted:

It is really about ethics in podcast sound quality

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
ethnics, hard n

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Phone posted:

It was Matt's thesis, and I'm good at grammar.

Like pointing out that you can get gets for cheap doesn't really address the problem of people disengaging from society nor that capitalists are cynical as hell and have no issues nickel and diming their customer base to death with stuff like the free-to-play model.
The thing that bothers me about stuff like the free-to-play model is that it's a way for large companies to condition consumers to expect and accept the annoying aspects of that model even in a totally different model. Like, I should not see constant in-game advertising for microtransactions in a game I paid for.

This is not a super big deal in video games, but while I'm at a loss for easy analogies at the moment, I feel like there are a lot of other markets where consumers just get conditioned to being jerked around, buried in advertising, and given worse-than-useless customer support.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Halloween Jack posted:

The thing that bothers me about stuff like the free-to-play model is that it's a way for large companies to condition consumers to expect and accept the annoying aspects of that model even in a totally different model. Like, I should not see constant in-game advertising for microtransactions in a game I paid for.

This is not a super big deal in video games, but while I'm at a loss for easy analogies at the moment, I feel like there are a lot of other markets where consumers just get conditioned to being jerked around, buried in advertising, and given worse-than-useless customer support.

All streaming services, tv, going to a theater, car insurance, health insurance, insurance in general, credit cards, subscription based services in general,

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Phone posted:

It was Matt's thesis, and I'm good at grammar.

Like pointing out that you can get gets for cheap doesn't really address the problem of people disengaging from society nor that capitalists are cynical as hell and have no issues nickel and diming their customer base to death with stuff like the free-to-play model.

I was responding to a post that disagrees with one of Matt's central ideas; pointing out that gaming isn't expensive relative to other hobbies was directly addressing something in the post to which I responded.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Under the vegetable posted:

I think if you're a person paying for something you have a right to complain about it. This is like the least controversial statement possible.

You should ask to speak to the manager

Uranium
Sep 11, 2001

Through constant decay
Uranium creates
the radioactive ray.



Dear Mr Chapo "Trap" House,

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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Uncle Boogeyman posted:

You should ask to speak to the manager

Gamers do this. They find a community relations manager on Twitter if they don't like a game and talk to her about it, by threatening to rape her.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
https://twitter.com/Vedmak00/status/867926314904416257

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Lmao

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
"the editorial board"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/26/opinion/trump-budget-food-stamps-wages.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

Serf posted:

i would rather watch the newsroom than read :tinfoil: about gamergate

take for instance this very reprehensible and relevant bit that they talked about in the episode that is still even worse than they make it out to be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLKNjlVInhA

That was the worst episode of Cum Town.

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

Sebadoh Gigante posted:

That was the worst episode of Cum Town.

I made it about 30 seconds into that clip.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

GalacticAcid posted:

Video Game's

Video : The Game

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/868983849233117185

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Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

Henchman of Santa posted:

Fair enough. That day came in November for a lot of people.

I think a lot of people on the left were almost freed by it. After being told for decades by the Third Way Dems to shut up about our good ideas on wages and healthcare because only they knew how to actually win, only for it to turn out that they can't even do that part right, the left has the chance to push back.

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