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Mors Rattus posted:Sadly as Fate goes it is rife with wizard supremacy. how does a Dresden Files RPG have classes that aren't "wizard" I mean I guess there's the Knights of the Cross but they're still basically magic users, plus unless you're setting it outside the scope of the books they're all named NPCs
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Doodmons posted:"Demense" sounding like "domain" broke me almost as hard as finding out "chirurgeon" is just pronounced "surgeon". It is? Every source I know of says it's "Kai-rurge-eron." It's from Latin, right, so wouldn't "chi" be "kai?"
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May 26, 2017 17:55
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:how does a Dresden Files RPG have classes that aren't "wizard" There were rules for being a cop, or a werewolf, or a vampire, or a wizard that didn't get the full wizard package. But a wizard focused on control could reliably kill just about anything.
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May 26, 2017 18:06
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blastron posted:The Dresden Files are really fun and I love them but drat are they nowhere close to "good". The RPG, though, was my first introduction to FATE and it absolutely sold me on the system. I find the books are a lot more amusing when you realize they're a rough novelization of his late 1990's World of Darkness LARP game. Same as Codex Alera was his Exalted campaign.
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May 26, 2017 18:06
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Nah, Butcher never did WOD, he was an AmberMUSH dude.
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May 26, 2017 18:10
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Yeah, I played Dresden Files as a just-below par wizard and felt bad for the players who weren't wizards, it's more than a little ridiculous. Once later on my character was rolling in a spirit heritage and a court position it became less "overpowered" and more "I guess I have to be careful not to alarm cosmic power players". So basically true to the books, I guess.
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May 26, 2017 18:48
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unseenlibrarian posted:Nah, Butcher never did WOD, he was an AmberMUSH dude. He did a goodly amount of WoD MUSHes too, IIRC.
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May 26, 2017 19:02
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Butcher was and still is into mushing in general, yeah. Naomi Novik, who wrote the Temeraire series, was a musher, too.
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May 26, 2017 19:04
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EdsTeioh posted:It is? Every source I know of says it's "Kai-rurge-eron." It's from Latin, right, so wouldn't "chi" be "kai?"  Who knows? Not I.The one and only time I played Dresden Files RPG I was whatever the lovely downscaled version of a wizard was, where you only get one trick. I was Kardan The Pyromancer and the very first time I used my powers onscreen I ended up at like +9 and pretty much set most of the fairy realm on fire. I don't even know what actual loving wizards are like in that game.
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May 26, 2017 20:33
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Liquid Communism posted:I find the books are a lot more amusing when you realize they're a rough novelization of his late 1990's World of Darkness LARP game. Didn't the first Codex Alara predate Exalted? I'm guessing the series was written around the time StarCraft: Brood War came around because it becomes straight up Zerg down the line.
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May 26, 2017 20:35
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EdsTeioh posted:It is? Every source I know of says it's "Kai-rurge-eron." It's from Latin, right, so wouldn't "chi" be "kai?" where is that third R coming from?
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May 26, 2017 20:41
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Codex Alera started as a bet that Butcher could sell a book using any two overdone concepts you could name, and the bet ended up as Lost Roman Legion, and Pokemon. After the first book it got more Exalted, but that was the basic concept.
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some loving LIAR posted:To be fair, unless you mispronounce "demesne," everyone will think you're pronouncing "domain" like an rear end in a top hat. Wait, how do Americans pronounce 'domain'? In Australian English 'demesne' and 'domain' sound basically identical.
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thefakenews posted:Wait, how do Americans pronounce 'domain'? In Australian English 'demesne' and 'domain' sound basically identical. "Dough-main". e: changed to make a better enunciation substitute. ManMythLegend fucked around with this message at 01:47 on May 27, 2017 |
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Leperflesh posted:where is that third R coming from? My demense of typos.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:how does a Dresden Files RPG have classes that aren't "wizard" I've read only a handful of Dresden Files books in my life but I recall that one of the main character's closest begrudging partners was a Chicago PD homicide cop with no magic whatsoever, then there were also vampires and werewolves and probably all other kinds of stuff that people might want to play but that falls short of being an actual capital-W Wizard in game terms because the Fate iteration of Dresden Files, having played several campaigns using it, really did manage to throw awkward balance issues into a game that shouldn't really have had them. It tried to give more supernaturally powerful characters a tradeoff in the sense that the more powers you had at your disposal the fewer fate points you got which meant a Dresden-level wizard had very few FP to spend without leaning on compels all the time and a bog-standard mortal could have a fat stack, buuuuuuut in actual practice wizards still dominated just about everything, the fate point sliding scale wasn't a great balancing tool, and there was very rarely a compelling reason to want to play characters that were minorly supernatural at best in a party where someone else decided that since this was Dresden Files they wanted to be a wizard. I think the Atomic Robo RPG does a better job of squaring a mixed party of "normal" people and Atomic Robo-grade powered characters if that's what you're in the market for, plus I found Dresden Files' magic rules to be unnecessarily complicated for a Fate game.
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Kai Tave posted:I think the Atomic Robo RPG does a better job of squaring a mixed party of "normal" people and Atomic Robo-grade powered characters if that's what you're in the market for, plus I found Dresden Files' magic rules to be unnecessarily complicated for a Fate game. e: The same issue happened with Legends of Anglerre, which came out a year or two before DFRPG, only moreso. More aspects, stunt trees, the whole nine yards. e2: I really need to get around to reading Dresden Files Accelerated and see how that is. Evil Mastermind fucked around with this message at 04:52 on May 27, 2017 |
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I'm sort of hoping Dresden Files Accelerated fixes this, but I also haven't read Dresden Files since the eighth or ninth book. What if Accelerated has... spoilers 
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Ettin posted:I'm sort of hoping Dresden Files Accelerated fixes this, but I also haven't read Dresden Files since the eighth or ninth book. What if Accelerated has... spoilers It does. The little in-character post-it notes and descriptions of powers and mantles reference things up through Skin Game.
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Err...umm, yeah I got nothing https://twitter.com/cubicle7/status/868465739363213314
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May 27, 2017 15:48
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So they're doing both, apparently? Weird.
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May 27, 2017 15:48
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unseenlibrarian posted:So they're doing both, apparently? Weird. The only way it made sense to me was if it was a package deal/required. I don't fall into the 'Age of Sigmar should be destroyed in fire', albeit I think they totally hosed up the launch/marketing for it, but there's nothing in its setting which really inspires an RPG.
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But... gently caress all happens in the Age of Sigmar setting, apart from eternal, constant trench warfare between different coloured spess mehreens. What do you roleplay as, a stormcast eternal? That sounds fun.
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What's Age of Sigmar again? All I know is that it made the latest edition of Warhammer look more like 40k and it threw most of the established setting out the window.
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The world exploded so Sigmar made a new world except the new world is basically just an infinite expanse of pocket dimensions of various elements, and armies fight for no apparent reason. Also, for a while you could win the game by deploying a hill.
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May 27, 2017 16:47
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Oh, so it's basically Secret Wars' Battleworld, only not interesting.
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Evil Mastermind posted:Oh, so it's basically Secret Wars' Battleworld, only not interesting. And 0 chance of introducing a cool new outfit in the previous timeline.
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Evil Mastermind posted:What's Age of Sigmar again? All I know is that it made the latest edition of Warhammer look more like 40k and it threw most of the established setting out the window. its basically Warhammer Fantasy if it were anime
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Doodmons posted:But... gently caress all happens in the Age of Sigmar setting, apart from eternal, constant trench warfare between different coloured spess mehreens. What do you roleplay as, a stormcast eternal? That sounds fun. "If, during character creation, you pretend to ride on an imaginary horse..."
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Isn't the only reason Age of Sigmar became a thing is for copyright and IP protection reasons?
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I know that's why they renamed Elves to Aelfs and the like, not sure if that's what set off the entire change. I figured it was more to do with GW realizing their actual ideal market isn't "people who play the game" but "people who buy the models as collectibles/art objects" and wanted to make WHF more in line with the 40k style that was more successful with the latter group. I.E. they don't want landsknecht's in floppy hats, they want the Greatest Bestest Warriors in huge armor, so here come the Stormcast Eternals.
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Probably. Losing that court case where they claimed trademark ownership of "space marine" really upset GW. e- Wait, no, the space marine thing was an Amazon dispute. The court case was a fight with another mini company who was making minis for units GW included in their rules but never bothered to create figurines for. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 21:07 on May 27, 2017 |
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Precambrian posted:I I.E. they don't want landsknecht's in floppy hats, they want the Greatest Bestest Warriors in huge armor, so here come the Stormcast Eternals. I just want to go on the record and say these people are objectively wrong.
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May 27, 2017 22:31
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alg posted:its basically Warhammer Fantasy if it were anime I know making GBS threads on anime is a time-honored Something Awful tradition but this comparison is incredibly unfair to anime.
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May 27, 2017 23:42
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Nuns with Guns posted:Probably. Losing that court case where they claimed trademark ownership of "space marine" really upset GW. I love how in the court case with Chapterhouse they tried to claim trademark on things like roman numerals and human skulls.
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8one6 posted:I love how in the court case with Chapterhouse they tried to claim trademark on things like roman numerals and human skulls. I know, right? Everyone knows the trademark for skulls is tied to the Rifts licence.
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Precambrian posted:I know that's why they renamed Elves to Aelfs and the like, not sure if that's what set off the entire change. I figured it was more to do with GW realizing their actual ideal market isn't "people who play the game" but "people who buy the models as collectibles/art objects" and wanted to make WHF more in line with the 40k style that was more successful with the latter group. I.E. they don't want landsknecht's in floppy hats, they want the Greatest Bestest Warriors in huge armor, so here come the Stormcast Eternals.
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Zak S. still makes me mad. I got a new group for 5e together a few months back, and the common factor was that they had all been inspired by CriticalRoll and Mercer's DM'ing. I still haven't watched the show, because I don't want to do an impression of him for my group, but I have watched his DM tip videos. After finding them a little basic I wrote them off. Some time later I saw that another DM had taken over the tips videos, so I gave it another go. For some reason I got cringy when they ended her episode with "DM us out". It was a clever idea, but I just didn't like it. I can't quantify why I disliked it. The other DM was Satine Pheonix, from Maze Arcana, they said. What they didn't say was that she was also from Zak's D&D with Pornstars experiment. So cut to today, I see that Zak is on GM tips with Pheonix and I'm all pissed off. I didn't even know Mikan, but I miss seeing their posts. I don't know what to say other than I think this hobby gets worse when we forget whose bones we walked across to get where we are.
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Cease to Hope posted:It wasn't just whether WHFRP 3e was good or not (and I thought it was), but it was super reliant on all of the various cards and special dice. I don't think Cubicle7 is set up to publish games like that the way that FFG was. However you feel about 2e, it was published as a book, not a boxed set. If I recall correctly there was a series of pdfs released that did have all the relevant information from the basic set, plus a couple of the expansions. So it is possible to run it sans extra bits other than the funny dice.
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