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So it seems like American politics, since the 90's, are stuck in a cycle something like this: -Democratic president elected, economy greatly improves, has a relatively peaceful administration (Clinton), is continuously demonized by right wing media with mainstream media passive or somewhat complicit with this, thereby eroding support for an otherwise popular presidency -GOP president narrowly elected, blows up economy while enriching friends, has disastrous foreign policy with many years of consequences -Democratic president elected (Obama), spends entire term picking up pieces of broken economy and disastrous foreign policy, is continuously demonized by right wing media with mainstream media passive or somewhat complicit with this, thereby eroding support for an otherwise popular presidency -GOP president narrowly elected, ... So even assuming Democrats win the House in 2018 and the presidency in 2020, we're going to do worse than treading water if this cycle continues because some of the damage (like the damage to NATO and U.S./EU relations) may not be able to be undone in 4-8 years. How do we break this cycle? Does it require things like Fox News to somehow not have the influence over right wingers that it does? 
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May 27, 2017 21:42
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Party Plane Jones posted:It's reddit so they do have gore and dogfucking. Part of the r/jailbait fiasco was finding out that the mod for that subreddit also modded for poo poo like r/sexyfemalecorpses. Let the forum with no sex criminal mods in its past cast the first stone.
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May 27, 2017 21:42
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Low Desert Punk posted:remember when fyad was funny :2012:
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May 27, 2017 21:43
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Sorus posted:Peace through strength (power) is a Brotherhood of Nod thing, and they use a scorpion tail as an emblem. Trump often closed rallies with the scorpion and frog parable. There Brotherhood had a charismatic and awesome leader, do not compare him to Trump.
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May 27, 2017 21:43
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Sinteres posted:Let the forum with no sex criminal mods in its past cast the first stone. Yeah, but we're good about dragging our own through the mud as well. 
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May 27, 2017 21:43
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Zwabu posted:So even assuming Democrats win the House in 2018 and the presidency in 2020, we're going to do worse than treading water if this cycle continues because some of the damage (like the damage to NATO and U.S./EU relations) may not be able to be undone in 4-8 years. How do we break this cycle? Does it require things like Fox News to somehow not have the influence over right wingers that it does? We don't. It carries on and keeps getting worse until the climate collapses and hits the Off switch on civilization as we know it.
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May 27, 2017 21:44
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Oxxidation posted:We don't. It carries on and keeps getting worse until the climate collapses and hits the Off switch on civilization as we know it.
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May 27, 2017 21:46
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Zwabu posted:So it seems like American politics, since the 90's, are stuck in a cycle something like this: More boomers die every day, and eventually they won't be able to swing national elections any more. Look at the gap between white votes for Bush Jr. and white votes for Trump. Use things like celebrity boomer deaths as reference samples for how many white boomers are left. A new pattern will take hold eventually.
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May 27, 2017 21:46
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Magic Hate Ball posted:She's holding his hand like she's walking an elderly person to the bathroom. It is because he is frightened of stairs.
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May 27, 2017 21:51
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business hammocks posted:More boomers die every day, and eventually they won't be able to swing national elections any more. Look at the gap between white votes for Bush Jr. and white votes for Trump. Use things like celebrity boomer deaths as reference samples for how many white boomers are left. A new pattern will take hold eventually.
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May 27, 2017 21:51
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My Twitter Account posted:"Boomers" are no longer the problem, since 20-year-old alt-right anime Nazis are happily taking their place and putting people in office who are even worse. Yeah but there aren't nearly enough of those fuckwads to make up the numbers.
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May 27, 2017 21:53
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Roland Jones posted:Besides that a lot of his voters were probably more anti-Hillary than pro-Trump, their opinions don't really matter.At least, his diehard supporters who still stand by him and will do so no matter what don't. Everyone else is either already against him or turning, and I don't think Mueller's investigation particularly cares about what the redcaps think either. PLEASE, Mr. Jones. It's 'MAGA CHUDs'
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May 27, 2017 21:54
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My Twitter Account posted:"Boomers" are no longer the problem, since 20-year-old alt-right anime Nazis are happily taking their place and putting people in office who are even worse. The millennial Nazis are far, far fewer in number compared to sane millennials. They're just loud, annoying, and seek attention more than anything. A good fist does wonders.
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May 27, 2017 21:54
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Zwabu posted:So it seems like American politics, since the 90's, are stuck in a cycle something like this: The problem with patterns like this is that they're not statistically significant. "Since the 90's" is only 25 years and saying that a few of the similarities between the Clinton-Bush presidencies and the Obama-Trump presidencies constitute a cycle that will perpetuate itself until broken is making a big assumption about the causes of those similarities. It would be sort of like someone predicting World War 3's imminence in 1973 because World War I happened, was followed by a boom then a depression, World War 2 happened, was followed by a boom then a recession. What follows in the pattern? Historians and political scientists will need thousands of years of data before they can predict large scale political, social and economic trends and patterns with accuracy. As for what we need to do to make things better, it's important that the left organize and motivate its base, challenge the political advantages the right has in gerrymandered districts and voter suppression tactics and articulate a unified and clear message to the electorate. To the average citizen this means making calls, putting up posters, donating money, knocking on doors, protesting, supporting labor rights, keeping yourself sane and hoping for the best.
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May 27, 2017 21:56
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Apparently this photo is from just after the walk - they were walking 700 yards to a traditional spot for a group photo. I love the guy waving. Such a grandpa move.
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May 27, 2017 21:56
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Mustached Demon posted:The millennial Nazis are far, far fewer in number compared to sane millennials. They're just loud, annoying, and seek attention more than anything. I too enjoy a good fisting.
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May 27, 2017 21:57
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BigglesSWE posted:I love the guy waving. Such a grandpa move. That's Shinzo Abe, who is, unfortunately, a vile motherfucker.
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May 27, 2017 22:00
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Ekster posted:He's going to tweet up a storm again soon, don't worry about it. Let's hope so. As long as he's tweeting, he is his own worst enemy and, therefore, the best hope to save America from himself 
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May 27, 2017 22:00
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As someone who literally advocates creating as stable and boring a society as possible through institutional inertia I'm quite comfortable saying that the dynamics of the political calculus are defined by the generation in charge, and for some reason the regime of the past 25 years decided to go all cards on the table and electing the oldest inauguration in history just to see if the final acts of the Baby Boomer Hate Golem Fire Orb philosophy could get it's way one last time before things have changed too much to fall out of their grasp. If you want examples of how things will be different over the (god sakes) four years, consider the state of Fox News and Facebook over the past 4 months. Things have already changed, and in that same time we've become aware of the lack of humanity both literal and figurative on twitter.
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May 27, 2017 22:03
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Mister Adequate posted:Yeah but there aren't nearly enough of those fuckwads to make up the numbers. Reminder on the morning of 2016-11-08 some of the good poo poo before the great corncobbing was redditors not knowing they needed to reg. to vote even though they were on the D-Train for months.
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May 27, 2017 22:04
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Apoplexy posted:PLEASE, Mr. Jones. It's 'MAGA CHUDs' Mega choads more like
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May 27, 2017 22:06
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PhazonLink posted:Reminder on the morning of 2016-11-08 some of the good poo poo before the great corncobbing was redditors not knowing they needed to reg. to vote even though they were on the D-Train for months. That was a big red flag that Trump had mobilized a big chunk of new (white) voters in hindsight.
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May 27, 2017 22:06
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PhazonLink posted:Reminder on the morning of 2016-11-08 some of the good poo poo before the great corncobbing was redditors not knowing they needed to reg. to vote even though they were on the D-Train for months. I am sure that happened to someone somewhere but that was pretty clearly a wacky gimmick joke thing when you saw those "too perfect" screen shots.
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May 27, 2017 22:09
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My Twitter Account posted:"Boomers" are no longer the problem, since 20-year-old alt-right anime Nazis are happily taking their place and putting people in office who are even worse. There are millions of old white men, and lots of them will die before 2020. Millennials aren't majority white (I'm pretty sure--it's around 50%) and there aren't as many of them. And twitter pepes are a very, very small minority that can't organize politically or socially. They rely entirely on the internet and haven't managed to do much to the wider culture. They played almost no role in getting Trump elected, especially compared to aging boomers.
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May 27, 2017 22:11
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There Bias Two posted:More like a Panic Room that he can barricade himself in once the Feds try to drag him out of the WH. Not gonna happen as long as reps own everything He could be the shittiest shitter that ever held the office, but he's a republican which means he cannot be left to fall
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May 27, 2017 22:11
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Mustached Demon posted:The millennial Nazis are far, far fewer in number compared to sane millennials. They're just loud, annoying, and seek attention more than anything. https://twitter.com/submedia/status/867882336846659584
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May 27, 2017 22:11
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Zwabu posted:So even assuming Democrats win the House in 2018 and the presidency in 2020, we're going to do worse than treading water if this cycle continues because some of the damage (like the damage to NATO and U.S./EU relations) may not be able to be undone in 4-8 years. How do we break this cycle? Does it require things like Fox News to somehow not have the influence over right wingers that it does? You're not wrong on foreign policy, but you shouldn't tie economic conditions to presidential administrations like this. The US economy moves in cycles of recession and growth and that's probably going to be true even with a thousand years of liberal darkness. The economy wasn't bad under GWB, for example, and there are lots of metrics where we still fall far short of the period between 2001 and 2008. Things improved under Obama's administration because growth cycles always follow recessions and if they didn't it would probably mean the US is literally collapsing. Recessions also have tons of causes that are more complex than the actions of any particular president or congress, and you can point the finger at Clinton and Reagan just as much as anyone else.
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May 27, 2017 22:11
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Mustached Demon posted:A good fist does wonders. Does it? I doubt someone punching him once would have stopped the Nazi murderer in Portland. I have a feeling that this Nazi won't renounce Nazism over the beating.
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May 27, 2017 22:15
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canepazzo posted:Ok things are definitely starting to matter - he cancelled a rally: Nothing mattered. He just needs a week or two of medical work and R&R to make up for his little party trip where France broke his hands
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May 27, 2017 22:16
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When are the right-wingers going to stop pretending they give a gently caress about Coptic Christians in Egypt? It's a convenient scape-goat whenever the get killed by Muslims, but I don't see any of them calling for sanctions on Egypt.
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May 27, 2017 22:16
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Trabisnikof posted:Does it? Would it have been worth a try?
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May 27, 2017 22:17
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Would it have been worth a try? Sure, no reason not to punch him. But punching a Nazi doesn't actually seem to stop them from being Nazis.
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May 27, 2017 22:18
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Trabisnikof posted:Sure, no reason not to punch him. But punching a Nazi doesn't actually seem to stop them from being Nazis. You punch Nazis for two reasons: 1) Because they are presently in need of some kinetic influence 2) Nazis that have not yet spoken up yet are given pause as to if they should. I don't think anyone is writing a treatise on how punching Nazis won WW2 because they all threw their hands up and went "well sure showed me!"
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May 27, 2017 22:21
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https://twitter.com/ereguly/status/868401887858569216
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May 27, 2017 22:21
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DrPop posted:There's more in the article: http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/05/27/19041594/suspect-in-portland-hate-crime-murders-is-a-known-white-supremacist Sounds like someone who legit earned a bullet to the brain. Don't make it expensive, just drag him to the nearest ditch and leave his body there afterwards. At least he'll do some good for the animals, insects and plants
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May 27, 2017 22:21
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Trabisnikof posted:I have a feeling that this Nazi won't renounce Nazism over the beating. Yeah, last time we had to kill them.
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May 27, 2017 22:25
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Alfa bank is suing Buzzfeed for the piss tapes: https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/868220462253453314
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May 27, 2017 22:25
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https://twitter.com/WilliamTurton/status/868578244718723072
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May 27, 2017 22:25
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Low Desert Punk posted:Fascism never wins. It always gets better. Late but the history of the late roman republic and early empire does not bear this out.
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May 27, 2017 22:31
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Normally when you call someone a turd it's a metaphor, but I honestly think Kim Dotcom was shat out in a truck-stop bathroom.
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