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Isn't Trump also causing a move to have more things done at the state level?
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Meme Emulator posted:Dear Americans who didnt vote against trump: I cant believe you DIPSHITS didnt use your time machine back when the election of Hillary was treated as a foregone conclusion by the media and get off your asses and voted. Anyway, youre all garbagepeople now for not seeing the future and I am the smart one Lol were you too dumb to vote against trump
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Meme Emulator posted:Dear Americans who didnt vote against trump: I cant believe you DIPSHITS didnt use your time machine back when the election of Hillary was treated as a foregone conclusion by the media and get off your asses and voted. Anyway, youre all garbagepeople now for not seeing the future and I am the smart one I know you're being sarcastic, but there's actually a reason a lot of people didn't vote: Electoral College. My state was going for Hillary no matter what. My one vote would've been thrown in the shitheap along with 3 million others had I bothered. I imagine I wasn't alone in that.
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May 28, 2017 16:56
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Spiffster posted:As much as it pleases me that France avoided Le Penn, Britain still did Brexit, a quick look at loving Hungary's actions lately, the most likely fall of Merkel to right wing parties, and the overall tribal nationalism on the rise in many country's and tell me the US is the only one to blame. What is this? Merkel is the leader of the free world now. Is Germany swinging right too? Surely Trumps visit to the EU highlighted to everybody there the dangers of that.
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Ekster posted:As far as I can tell the only real difference between the US alt-right and its closest Dutch analogue is that they generally don't care as much about black people (most Dutch have no issues with them), it's just the muslim minorities they despise. Same anti-establishment sentiment, same idolization of neo-fascists like Putin (even after MH17), etc. do the dutch have gay frogs too 
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May 28, 2017 16:56
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https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/868822713082793987 By the way
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May 28, 2017 16:56
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Paracaidas posted:* does not apply to those who had their voting rights stripped and suppressed, who are a tiny sliver of the 41ish% of the eligible population who didn't vote What is this assumption based on?
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May 28, 2017 16:56
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Apoplexy posted:I know you're being sarcastic, but there's actually a reason a lot of people didn't vote: Electoral College. My state was going for Hillary no matter what. My one vote would've been thrown in the shitheap along with 3 million others had I bothered. I imagine I wasn't alone in that. This is something of a weak argument, because people probably did the exact same thing on the other side in red states.
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May 28, 2017 16:59
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Apoplexy posted:I know you're being sarcastic, but there's actually a reason a lot of people didn't vote: Electoral College. My state was going for Hillary no matter what. My one vote would've been thrown in the shitheap along with 3 million others had I bothered. I imagine I wasn't alone in that. there is other poo poo on the ballot
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May 28, 2017 16:59
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gently caress you if you didn't vote.
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May 28, 2017 17:00
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cant cook creole bream posted:That feels uncalled for. And yes, I made a typo... I voted Hillary. My state (Connecticut) went blue and cast its electoral votes for Hillary. My Republican as gently caress suburban town even went for Hillary (while sadly sending Republican representatives to the state senate--thankfully our congressional representation is Dem). Many of us did what we could and would love to see Trump dragged out of the White House in handcuffs with his entire administration.
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May 28, 2017 17:00
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Maybe I'm dumb but I feel like Trump completely loving foreign relations might be one of those things that might get republicans to actually get off their asses and do something. Trump's weird isolationist ideas were never popular with anyone, especially not the republicans, and as evil and dumb as they are, I'm certain most of them are aware of the seriousness of what it means to damage relations with allies in this way.
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May 28, 2017 17:00
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theres a will theres moe posted:Lol were you too dumb to vote against trump ??? I voted for Clinton, dummy. I just cant stand the way this thread talks about the power of money and messaging in politics and discusses the power of manipulation and advertising but then turns around and goes "And all those MORONS fell for it!" or "And those loving Idiots didnt vote despite the constant media saturation telling of a Clinton victory" Of course they fell for it, its because it works! People in this country are under constant psychological attack through ad dollars and then we call them ignorant morons for falling for it. Doesnt that seem loving stupid? Of course theyre going to fall for it.
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May 28, 2017 17:01
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https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/868839945863143425quote:Read this. Oklahoma's schools left devastated by years of slashing taxes. 4-day school weeks have kids going hungry. http://wapo.st/2quZWJY And all of this before Devos. Eat your young.
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May 28, 2017 17:01
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PT6A posted:This is something of a weak argument, because people probably did the exact same thing on the other side in red states. old whites live to vote like i live in the people's republic of california and i voted, so the whole vote doesn't matter thing doesn't make sense to me gently caress you if you don't vote and are able to and not being suppressed
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May 28, 2017 17:01
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Man it's dope af that German's are coming in here and telling us how we got the wrong guy into office and trying to laugh at us, like they're not still the supreme losers of the world that we all laugh at for having a gdp so low their children played with their money like building blocks.
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May 28, 2017 17:01
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Bishounen Bonanza posted:What is this? Merkel is the leader of the free world now. Is Germany swinging right too? Surely Trumps visit to the EU highlighted to everybody there the dangers of that. Germany is not swinging right in any way. Right now the main right-wing party is polling around 10% for the September election, right about where the Greens and the main left-wing party are, and way behind both Merkel's centre-right party and the main opposition centre-left.
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May 28, 2017 17:01
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also dipshit, if you don't vote because "my state isn't a swing state" double gently caress you because of the downballot Jesus
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May 28, 2017 17:02
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Apoplexy posted:I know you're being sarcastic, but there's actually a reason a lot of people didn't vote: Electoral College. My state was going for Hillary no matter what. My one vote would've been thrown in the shitheap along with 3 million others had I bothered. I imagine I wasn't alone in that. I was being sarcastic, in the direction youre pointing, and youre agreeing with the point im making. Saying 74% of the people didnt vote against trump, and this is somehow indicative of the wickedness of the American Public when completely normal reasons not to vote exist is bizzare and stupid.
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May 28, 2017 17:02
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PT6A posted:This is something of a weak argument, because people probably did the exact same thing on the other side in red states. It's not a weak argument. If Republicans in those red states had come out in equal proportion then the outcome would still be the same. Not only does the value of an American's vote change by where they live, in many cases it's also completely valueless. There's a reason people in this thread were so harsh on Clinton's campaign for running up the score in safe states.
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May 28, 2017 17:03
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stone cold posted:old whites live to vote Absolutely this. I've voted in all but one election I've been eligible to vote in. It's not a big ask that you participate in democracy in literally the smallest, easiest way possible, if you can.
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May 28, 2017 17:03
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skylined! posted:do the dutch have gay frogs too The PVV symbol is a flying seagull, does that count?
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May 28, 2017 17:03
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stone cold posted:also dipshit, if you don't vote because "my state isn't a swing state" double gently caress you because of the downballot Why in the gently caress are people going to get engaged with politics when they feel like they have little to no meaningful impact on anything? Id go so far as to say the system is working as intended, but cool, keep being a shithead who calls everyone a loving Moron because they feel powerless.
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May 28, 2017 17:04
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/868839945863143425 I wouldn't encourage anyone to ever go to Oklahoma for anything but I do have to go there, on occasion, for work. Coming from the DC suburbs, it feels like going to Oklahoma is a trip out into the wilds to collect information about a strange place. Oklahoma City is a perfect example of the failure of Republican/Conservative ideology. It's miles and miles of dilapidated buildings, industrial rot, garbage strewn across the highways, street lights out, etc. Now their aversion to taxation even extends to funding schools for their own children. Complete and utter failure. GOOCHY fucked around with this message at 17:07 on May 28, 2017 |
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May 28, 2017 17:05
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GOOCHY posted:I wouldn't encourage anyone to ever go to Oklahoma for anything but I do have to go there, on occasion, for work. Oklahoma City is a perfect example of the failure of Republican/Conservative ideology. It's miles and miles of dilapidated buildings, industrial rot, garbage strewn across the highways, street lights out, etc. Now their aversion to taxation even extends to funding schools for their own children. Complete and utter failure. *gilded with dazzle around the white burbclaves but there is quite a lot of poverty BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 17:08 on May 28, 2017 |
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May 28, 2017 17:05
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Meme Emulator posted:Why in the gently caress are people going to get engaged with politics when they feel like they have little to no meaningful impact on anything? Id go so far as to say the system is working as intended, but cool, keep being a shithead who calls everyone a loving Moron because they feel powerless. Feel powerless after voting then
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Meme Emulator posted:Why in the gently caress are people going to get engaged with politics when they feel like they have little to no meaningful impact on anything? Id go so far as to say the system is working as intended, but cool, keep being a shithead who calls everyone a loving Moron because they feel powerless. Power isn't bestowed upon you. You take it or you don't.
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stone cold posted:also dipshit, if you don't vote because "my state isn't a swing state" double gently caress you because of the downballot I looked up my county. It went red on a few things by hundreds or thousands of votes. I was not going to make a difference, and, trust me, I didn't dissuade anyone else from voting with my apathy. also, Meme Emulator, I knew you and I were in agreement, I was just quoting your post to expound upon what I thought (correctly) would be our shared view.
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May 28, 2017 17:06
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Wark Say posted:"Arschloch", "Blödmann", "Possenreißer", "Trump ist ein riesiger Dummkopf", among others (don't know German all that well, so excuse me if I mangled it). "Unreliable" is probably the most scathing epithet a German can lob at you. try the new taco place posted:Americans abroad are mostly Republicans because only rich people can afford to cross the ocean and buy a passport that's more than rent. And rich people are astonishingly republican. This is an insanely wrong thing. Every single American expat I interacted with abroad was left.
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May 28, 2017 17:07
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https://twitter.com/ArkansasFred/status/868857889552830464 I don't think pence is happy trump's back
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Andrast posted:Feel powerless after voting then Ok, cool, but most of the electorate decided not to vote instead.
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May 28, 2017 17:08
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PT6A posted:Absolutely this. I've voted in all but one election I've been eligible to vote in. It's not a big ask that you participate in democracy in literally the smallest, easiest way possible, if you can. this this this Meme Emulator posted:Why in the gently caress are people going to get engaged with politics when they feel like they have little to no meaningful impact on anything? Id go so far as to say the system is working as intended, but cool, keep being a shithead who calls everyone a loving Moron because they feel powerless. how can i make my voice super not heard, i know let me try not voting -a moron like, we tried to flip my district and got super loving close, but yeah keep not voting because of "the man"
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I live in a conservative city in a conservative province. There was no hope to elect liberal politicians for... decades at least. And then enough people loving got out and voted, and the Conservative party got loving turfed out of provincial government, and we sent a Liberal MP to the federal legislature. Good loving thing the people around here weren't a bunch of whiners who "felt powerless" because things weren't going their way. "Sure things" are only sure when people give up trying to make a change.
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May 28, 2017 17:09
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/868839945863143425 lmbo at the lady chowing down in the window
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May 28, 2017 17:09
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May 28, 2017 17:10
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Your voting system itself is kinda busted too. On average, how long did you spend in line on election day? It's really weird to compare that to here. Voting usually only takes 5 minutes and happens on a Sunday. I kinda wonder how your turnout would be if that was feasible. And yes, I know that the Republicans prevent such changes for exactly that reason.
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May 28, 2017 17:10
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Apoplexy posted:I looked up my county. It went red on a few things by hundreds or thousands of votes. I was not going to make a difference, and, trust me, I didn't dissuade anyone else from voting with my apathy. lmao how can I best erode the red influence in my county i know! not voting!!! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Paracaidas posted:* does not apply to those who had their voting rights stripped and suppressed, who are a tiny sliver of the 41ish% of the eligible population who didn't vote Voter suppression by long-held republican legislatures is well documented, effective, and they don't even try to hide it. It absolutely won them North Carolina and probably Wisconsin as well. The electoral college, as a system, is a gigantic voter-suppression machine, since in solidly blue/red states, many people don't even bother showing up to vote since their vote literally doesn't matter. They SHOULD VOTE ANYWAY because down-ballot poo poo is important, but knowing that you're hopelessly outnumbered in your own home can be demoralizing as gently caress.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Your voting system itself is kinda busted too. On average, how long did you spend in line on election day? I live in Rich Whitesylvania, MN. My average voting time was less than 90 seconds.
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PT6A posted:I live in a conservative city in a conservative province. There was no hope to elect liberal politicians for... decades at least. And then enough people loving got out and voted, and the Conservative party got loving turfed out of provincial government, and we sent a Liberal MP to the federal legislature. Good loving thing the people around here weren't a bunch of whiners who "felt powerless" because things weren't going their way. "Sure things" are only sure when people give up trying to make a change. Who are you lecturing?
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