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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:Oh god May has sent Rudd to take part in the ITV debate, please please Corbyn do not send in Abbott.
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ITV interview seemed to go all right. I'm terrified by the potential scale of the shy tory/whatever effect on polling day though - it was bad with Milliband at least in part due to him not being very PM-like, I have the feeling that it's going to be ten times worse with JC  Also why is Abbott being let on TV and stuff? Seems like the worst possible idea at this point.
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El Grillo posted:ITV interview seemed to go all right. I'm terrified by the potential scale of the shy tory/whatever effect on polling day though - it was bad with Milliband at least in part due to him not being very PM-like, I have the feeling that it's going to be ten times worse with JC It could always be worse. Someone could interview Eddie Izzard.
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:Oh god May has sent Rudd to take part in the ITV debate, please please Corbyn do not send in Abbott. Now that the tories are sending a minister I think he should definitely go. It will make May look loving awful.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Now that the tories are sending a minister I think he should definitely go. It will make May look loving awful. This probably won't happen due to Corbyn's unwavering but often lamentable commitment to fair play.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Now that the tories are sending a minister I think he should definitely go. It will make May look loving awful. Nah, it'll just make May look above it all and leave the leader of the opposition arguing with the home secretary. He should send someone like John McDonnell or Emily Thornberry and save himself for the audience debates with May.
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So thread, I just tried the famed Vimto squash because I was curious; it's alright, it reminds me of some kind of childhood candy I can't quite remember.
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May 28, 2017 19:06
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Reminder that this isn't a head to head, it's facing the audience. If May can't actually do that then it shouldn't stop Corbyn.
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May 28, 2017 19:07
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Thats not an amazing headline for May https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/868891556866031616
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Pochoclo posted:So thread, I just tried the famed Vimto squash because I was curious; it's alright, it reminds me of some kind of childhood candy I can't quite remember. I believe it's absurdly popular in the middle east because people drink it after Ramadan. Also the fizzy type is nicer for my money.
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namesake posted:Reminder that this isn't a head to head, it's facing the audience. If May can't actually do that then it shouldn't stop Corbyn. Yeah, I think it'd reflect incredibly badly on May because it's like she just couldn't be arsed at best, and was too scurred at worst. If it's talking to an audience I don't think Corbyn can lose out by attending, because just turning up shows respect for the audience.
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May 28, 2017 19:11
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Yeah but it's the guardian. Swing voters aren't buying the guardian. Or reading the website. They might see it via news aggregators.
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I think people are talking about two different things. There's the party leaders debate, which May is sending Rudd and Corbyn is also not attending. Then there's the May and Corbyn town hall type debate, that both are supposed to be attending. As far as I understand things anyway.
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May 28, 2017 19:14
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Regarde Aduck posted:Yeah but it's the guardian. Swing voters aren't buying the guardian. Or reading the website. They might see it via news aggregators. yeah it's only notable when the torygraph, daily heil or current bun call her poo poo. the guardian has been whining about her forever
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May 28, 2017 19:14
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Those tory attack ads are drowning out ads aimed at increasing turnout by outbidding them. I have to say I'm impressed with their ability to play dirty in the modern world
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May 28, 2017 19:23
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Berious posted:yeah it's only notable when the torygraph, daily heil or current bun call her poo poo. the guardian has been whining about her forever What newspaper is the currant bun? E: oh, Sun probably.
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OwlFancier posted:What newspaper is the currant bun? They even used to redirect traffic on it but I can't see if they still do
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Pochoclo posted:So thread, I just tried the famed Vimto squash because I was curious; it's alright, it reminds me of some kind of childhood candy I can't quite remember. robinsons apple and blackcurrant is the best squash lidl brand second
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and i must meme posted:robinsons apple and blackcurrant is the best squash Ribena is the One True Squash.
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May 28, 2017 19:31
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Ribena is the One True Squash. its bad
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namesake posted:Reminder that this isn't a head to head, it's facing the audience. If May can't actually do that then it shouldn't stop Corbyn.
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAzDlcq4Ud8
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forkboy84 posted:Go away bargain bin Pissflaps, we've still got the original. Keep calling for violent revolution mate, don't let reality get in the way of your dreams. I had a friend who was a member of the communist party in school, I guess he grew up eventually as I listened to his interview on radio 4 the other day. Don't be him.
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AP posted:Keep calling for violent revolution mate, don't let reality get in the way of your dreams. No seriously, go away you're dogshit.
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May 28, 2017 19:42
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Jedit posted:Not much, only everything she says and does. Like what though. We all know she doesn't handle interviews too well (even when she's right), but in the job of actually deciding policy and getting it put into action, does she have a bad track record? forkboy84 posted:Talking to the press is an important job for a Minister. Doubly so for the Home Sec who will often have to go in front of the media about quite controversial things because it's a horrible depart. Diane Abbott is not someone you would willingly roll out in front of the press. Her as Home Sec? gently caress man, it'd be bad. Well that's fair, but couldn't you argue that those 'controversial things' tend to be presented as moral imperatives - we need to do the thing to protect bla bla - rather than argued with hard numbers. She's definitely better at that kind of persuasive generality, with the benefit that she'd be in power enacting policy instead of trying to convince everyone to give her the job, so it wouldn't matter as much I know what you mean, sometimes the Home Secretary has to go and argue a case with details and that's a problem (not so much if she prepared), but it's not just about that - and she seems like she'd be much more progressive than the last few. She might end up stepping aside for a coalition though  Spangly A posted:Those tory attack ads are drowning out ads aimed at increasing turnout by outbidding them. Didn't they get the same Leave.EU team that was using the Facebook demographics software to identify groups and target special ads at them?
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May 28, 2017 19:43
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AP posted:Keep calling for violent revolution mate, don't let reality get in the way of your dreams. If you're the sort of person that lets reality get in the way of their dreams I feel very sad for you. The whole point of having dreams is that they allow you to imagine and strive for something beyond your reality, after all. Like if your reality is that you're in a big vat full of pig poo poo, for instance, you probably shouldn't wallow in it, you should follow your dream of someday getting out of it.
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Oberleutnant posted:No seriously, go away you're dogshit. Sorry you feel that way.
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AP posted:Sorry you feel that way. It's not a feeling, he's objectively right.
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TomViolence posted:If you're the sort of person that lets reality get in the way of their dreams I feel very sad for you. The whole point of having dreams is that they allow you to imagine and strive for something beyond your reality, after all. This is pretty deep and I'll have to think on it.
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AP's entire contribution to the thread seems to be tweets and sniping at other people. Like, even old Pissy puts more effort in than that. When are the upcoming "debates" anyway? Is anything on to night to distract me from the Sunday Night Fear?
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Acaila posted:AP's entire contribution to the thread seems to be tweets and sniping at other people. Like, even old Pissy puts more effort in than that. I do content too. Does anyone have any thoughts on the latest revaluation that Corbyn laid a wreath on the grave of one of the murderers at the Munich massacre? Do we think he just gets off on death or is it deeper attraction for the bad boys in life that drives him?
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baka kaba posted:Didn't they get the same Leave.EU team that was using the Facebook demographics software to identify groups and target special ads at them? Yes, and it's very dodgy and they won't answer any questions about it: https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/868727270499692545 (check the whole thread)
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May 28, 2017 19:50
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Pretty hosed up that Labour have not organised a MONGOOSE committee to bring their own solutions to crises when you think about it.
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AP posted:I do content too. depends. did his net worth go up or down in this revaluation
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Death's looking pretty appealing right now honestly.
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Her leg made me think of this, which in turn makes me remember a simpler, less absurd time. 
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TomViolence posted:Like if your reality is that you're in a big vat full of pig poo poo, for instance, you probably shouldn't wallow in it, you should follow your dream of someday getting out of it. this is an interesting point, and you make a good argument, but I'm still going to keep reading this thread
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AP posted:I do content too. I also hear that he works in an organization responsible for tens of millions of deaths worldwide.
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namesake posted:Reminder that this isn't a head to head, it's facing the audience. If May can't actually do that then it shouldn't stop Corbyn. No, the big debate is a head-to-head type with people shouting over each other and asking each other questions. It's not very well suited to Corbyn to begin with and it really wouldn't be a good look for him to be arguing with the likes of Amber Rudd, Tim Farron and Paul Nuttall rather than May herself. On the whole it's unlikely to be very edifying and people will probably pay a lot more attention to the two town hall style debates between him an May.
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