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Staltran posted:Pretty sure you can only have one at a time, but if you lose the avatar you can get another. Also unlike you might expect, the chance to get an avatar isn't removed from the pool, it's replaced by a generic vision instead which has a choice between 3 buffs. So having the army doesn't increase your chance of actually getting cool stuff. So what you're saying is i should just delete this garbage avatar army or drive it into a sun.
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Nitrousoxide posted:What the hell is the point of the army avatar for psychics? It's basically 2-3 regular psychic armies instead of getting a 15k fleet. In what situation is this a good trade??? Considering that armies exist largely as a resource sink in this game, a free army that's statistically equivalent to several armies and doesn't even cost upkeep isn't completely worthless. Load it up with attachments and you can save a lot on assault army maintenance. Still not as good as a ship, but better than nothing.
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May 28, 2017 13:27
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The army unit isn't that bad. It's still the strongest army unit in the game. Close in power to a titanic army (a little less damage but massively higher morale damage as well as having more health/morale than a titanic army as well). Also think of it as a fun flavor thing. Considering the shroud can give you far worse stuff (it can actually actively harm you), it's not the worst thing at all. I had the Avatar + 3 Titans and basically could stomp any defense flat in seconds and it was kinda fun to watch.
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Nitrousoxide posted:So what you're saying is i should just delete this garbage avatar army or drive it into a sun. No then you can get it again. A high chance of a generic research bonus or whatever is still better than the army.
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May 28, 2017 14:47
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Shroud entity just wants to chill on a planet, maybe occasionally blow up some dudes. A little change in pace from the insanity of the warp or whatever the gently caress.
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Dwesa posted:Also, I think you can't edit ironman save? You can. You just have to make sure that when you rezip the save file that there are a few picky settings. http://www.stellariswiki.com/Save-game_editing
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JuniperCake posted:The army unit isn't that bad. It's still the strongest army unit in the game. Close in power to a titanic army (a little less damage but massively higher morale damage as well as having more health/morale than a titanic army as well). getting one of "the strongest army unit of the game" would not be impressive even if ground combat mattered, unless the gap between the strongest unit in the game and average units was much larger JuniperCake posted:Also think of it as a fun flavor thing. Considering the shroud can give you far worse stuff (it can actually actively harm you), it's not the worst thing at all. I had the Avatar + 3 Titans and basically could stomp any defense flat in seconds and it was kinda fun to watch. so can a stack of 30 [whatever] armies, and that's a lot easier to get
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Then because of stupid pathing the transports go through a hazardous system and your army of 3 titans, an avatar and whatever goes up in smoke. 
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the only good army tech is clone armies because who cares if you gently caress up and they die
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May 28, 2017 21:19
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Just lol if you're not sending mechs, kaiju, and Yuriko Omega in to fight primitives.
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Pro tip for anyone else who is new to the game: purges are pretty extreme.  I put my newly conquered systems under two different sectors (as they were at opposite sides of the galaxy) and after a few years I notice my fleet capacity drops a fair chunk. Turns out the 40 odd pops have been wiped out, in many cases removing entire colonies and giving me -990 relations with every other species for genocide. Also aside from feeling pretty lovely it'll take nearly a millennia before you're forgiven.
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Weavered posted:Pro tip for anyone else who is new to the game: purges are pretty extreme. not sure I understand what happened here, did you think that turning on purging was like "root out the disloyal subjects" instead of "kill everyone"?
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:not sure I understand what happened here, did you think that turning on purging was like "root out the disloyal subjects" instead of "kill everyone"? Right before, well... you know.
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Cease to Hope posted:the only good army tech is clone armies because who cares if you gently caress up and they die Pretty much. There's no reason to build anything else.
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May 28, 2017 22:39
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Is there any fix to the prethoryns not having any armies? They have fleets orbiting 1/4 of the galaxy but only have their first planet.
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Weavered posted:Pro tip for anyone else who is new to the game: purges are pretty extreme.
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Goddamnit, I had a Curator happily plugging away at my science and my government went and elected him President
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MadJackMcJack posted:Goddamnit, I had a Curator happily plugging away at my science and my government went and elected him President Incidentally I wish there was some way to indicate how benevolent or oppressive your government is. Sure you can avoid having slavery and supply your people with free dental care but that doesn't mean you're not imprisoning vast numbers of your population, encouraging harassment of dissidents, installing cameras everywhere, using nerve stapling on criminals or just full of bigotry.
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MadJackMcJack posted:Goddamnit, I had a Curator happily plugging away at my science and my government went and elected him President That's actually a really good thing. Now you can hire a second Curator scientist, and when you elect a new president next round, you can have two.
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Are you able to set up a system that is a sector even if you haven't reached your limit? I was mostly just using it as a buffer zone so I wouldn't be trapped when this other Empire expanded. Instant rivalry from them.
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I have a race war going on a planet between the offshoot subrace... and that very same subrace. I don't get it.
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:why would you use Chemical Bliss living conditions? To make filthy xenos forget that you're eating them
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:why would you use Chemical Bliss living conditions? to wait out the timer for the recently conquered happiness penalty
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Never use chemical bliss because sometimes withdrawal symptoms randomly come back.
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By the look of the tool tip, chemical bliss is more of a thing to stop pops being purged from having high unrest, not something for a pop that should stay around.
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Drug your aliens, build more robots
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IAmTheRad posted:Are you able to set up a system that is a sector even if you haven't reached your limit? Yes, but doing so is of pretty dubious usefulness.
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Finally getting into an extended game of this after many false starts. Many of my scientists WHAT WILL BE, WAS. WHAT WAS, WILL BE  On a practical note, the cute gecko primitives in my territory turned out to be Fanatic Purifiers. I settled a colony in their system so they can't really block me from doing anything or build much of their own, is it best to ignore them until they get uppity or go to Firm, Corrective War with them (I'm not mad, just disappointed). It's still early-game enough that their station would be kind of an annoying nut to crack, although they are using missiles, and I do have point defense.
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Ixjuvin posted:It's still early-game enough that their station would be kind of an annoying nut to crack, although they are using missiles, and I do have point defense. Destroyers with a party (PD) in the back, and business (large mount) up front for the stations, and then twice that number with the m/s mount combo front to handle their fleet. If you have enough PD you will barely take any damage, and what you do take will fall off dramatically as they start losing hulls. I definitely feel like having missiles be the only weapon type which is hard countered by anything is really piling on to their already lengthy list of drawbacks.
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I gave the erstwhile Blood Host a Stern Talking-To (backed by battle droids and an apologetic orbital bombardment) and they reformed into a much more amenable Trade Commission who have agreed to let me protect them from the horrors of the galaxy. Hopefully I can get the cute buggers integrated in a decade or so.  Is Ethics Attraction, uh, working? The entire population of my homeworld got mutated into militarist assholes by a mad Scientist (he's my President now  ) and I've been trying to flip their ethics back over, but despite my suppressing their faction and boosting my governing ethics attraction as much as I can it seems like nothing doing. Am I missing something here or what
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Ixjuvin posted:I gave the erstwhile Blood Host a Stern Talking-To (backed by battle droids and an apologetic orbital bombardment) and they reformed into a much more amenable Trade Commission who have agreed to let me protect them from the horrors of the galaxy. Hopefully I can get the cute buggers integrated in a decade or so. I think that particular event just makes it really really hard to get rid of their faction
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Positive ethics attraction appears to do next to nothing right now. It's maddening.
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Shugojin posted:By the look of the tool tip, chemical bliss is more of a thing to stop pops being purged from having high unrest, not something for a pop that should stay around.
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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Ixjuvin posted:I gave the erstwhile Blood Host a Stern Talking-To (backed by battle droids and an apologetic orbital bombardment) and they reformed into a much more amenable Trade Commission who have agreed to let me protect them from the horrors of the galaxy. Hopefully I can get the cute buggers integrated in a decade or so. I accidentally let my curator scientist be elected. :facepalm: Based on having two starship related ruler traits he was probably just angry about doing society research.
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hobbesmaster posted:I accidentally let my curator scientist be elected. :facepalm: When we get more diplomatic events. I want a potential one where a curator if they become the leader of a nation, makes an attempt to get revenge on their former enclave and incites a political incident. I mean at least a few of them would have to be at least somewhat bitter at being sold to some backwater empire where they have to remain for the rest of their life. Probably a good way for the enclave to get rid of malcontents anyways. Could give you a way to take it over, sabotage it/steal secrets from it or even destroy it or something. Just Rick Sanchez it all up. Could be a fun event. JuniperCake fucked around with this message at 11:31 on May 29, 2017 |
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