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nuru
Oct 10, 2012

Bonfire Lit posted:

Yeah, if you want to make specs a semi-permanent choice, you'll have to make them all similarly useful (and not have a trap spec like CUL). I'd rather they did away with the specializations though - they're not really interesting in itself and the "real" crafter barons already had an alt or two to cover all 8.

CUL is a difficult one. It seems like if they make CUL specialization great then they're ultimately enhancing the consumable grind for raiding. I'm trying to think of interesting things they could do for CUL, because giving them the 4 star food that most people couldn't afford sure wasn't the answer.

Sharkopath posted:

She's the main character of the Bahamut raid. The game acknowledges your relationship if you either did part of it or finished it completely.

Compared to most of the cast in ARR, she's actually getting poo poo done.

Countblanc posted:

Zhloe sucks because Zhloe refers to Zhloe in the third person forever and it's very tedious. I like the idea of the bonding system or whatever it's called, hopefully it's a bit more fleshed out in SB

It's a reputation grind :nono:

Am I crazy or did Gotetsu's VA start trying to sound like he had more of an Asian accent as the recent patch quests went on, compared to his introduction which was just full blown Scottish?

nuru fucked around with this message at 18:08 on May 28, 2017

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Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames

Lemon-Lime posted:

That's the guy who's been harassing people in front of the FC house for a few weeks now, trying to get people to bird farm for him.

How exactly are they harassing people, that whole exchange was just nonsensical

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


I've forgotten how to craft properly without using all my CP and getting nowhere.

I have full HQ Ironworks so I can still button mash some HQs out though.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Josuke Higashikata posted:

I've forgotten how to craft properly without using all my CP and getting nowhere.

I have full HQ Ironworks so I can still button mash some HQs out though.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AcYjLEq7Gp8GasCkOxFQnbNbyKR8-_WsoxQ91-jzdik/preview

nuru
Oct 10, 2012

poo poo, that reminds me. I didn't finish some of the 60 crafting quests. I really need to look those up.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


nuru posted:

poo poo, that reminds me. I didn't finish some of the 60 crafting quests. I really need to look those up.

Most are pretty meh but the CUL 60 quest is amazing. For different reasons than why the CUL 50 quest was.

nuru
Oct 10, 2012

I meant more like so I don't go to level them in SB and realize I'm gated. I know I finished a bunch of them for materia at least.

Obligatum VII
May 5, 2014

Haunting you until no 8 arrives.

Thundarr posted:

Old Middy voice really bothered me with just how long and drawn out the end of every single sentence was. With the new one I felt like at least I'd be able to hold a conversation with the guy. Cryptic and vaguely assholeish conversations, but still.

I wonder if he'll ever interject again or if he doesn't really care any more since 3.3.

I hope he keeps running commentary on events despite having no real personal connection to them. I think it'd be funny.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013



I was forgetting Hasty Touch was a thing, thanks.

Oxygen Deficiency
May 19, 2008



Lizard Wizard posted:

That reminds me, you find some weird poo poo on Party Finder sometimes.



I logged in once and the first pf entry message was "Hi don't forget that you are special and people love you. Take care!"
:3:

Farg
Nov 19, 2013
Alphinauds new VA is really good, it along with his story in HW pulled equal weight in making him a good character

Tataru and Pipin are Fiora and Shulk from xenoblade respectively so the potato casting is on point

Memnaelar
Feb 21, 2013

WHO is the goodest girl?

Farg posted:

Alphinauds new VA is really good, it along with his story in HW and his change from space-sex onesie and platform spaceboots outfit into something that actually looks decent pulled equal weight in making him a good character

Fixed.

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013

Sharkopath posted:

You should do the Bahamut raid anyways because its cool but also the cinematic you get near the end is one of the craziest looking cg scenes square has ever done and they hid it behind content that most players skip nowadays.

Which cutscene is that? I don't remember coil having a CG cutscene

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009
Most of HW being about Alphinaud making up for his inexperience-induced fuckup was okay but I'm ready for him to gently caress off to a corner forever now that Alisaie is in the main party. :swoon:

Thumbtacks posted:

Which cutscene is that? I don't remember coil having a CG cutscene

The one you get when you clear it, super Saiyan Louisoix.

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
I like that not only is it about Alphinaud trying to apologize for his mistakes, but it also includes everyone taking the piss out of him for existing.

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

Where can I get Encyclopedia Eorzea?

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Lizard Wizard posted:

Where can I get Encyclopedia Eorzea?

https://store.eu.square-enix.com/uk/product/424988/encyclopaedia-eorzea-the-world-of-final-fantasy-xiv
https://store.na.square-enix.com/product/421917/encyclopaedia-eorzea-the-world-of-final-fantasy-xiv-book

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012





Not bad for a 5 year old midrange gaming laptop.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Lemon-Lime posted:

Everyone's VAs changed in HW. Nearly all of them change for the better, Alphinaud was jarring but ends up being real good, and tragically, the one character whose voice gets straight up worse is Merlwyb. :(

I disagree if only because Merlwyb's ARR VA reminded me a lot of Fran from FFXII and I just do not like nasally-voices. My ears are all like 'SPEAK WITH YOUR MOUTH NOT YOUR NOSE GAWD.'

Everyone did grow into their roles splendidly and I don't see any reason why they don't stay with this studio for the foreseeable future.

Mister Olympus
Oct 31, 2011

Buzzard, Who Steals From Dead Bodies

nuru posted:

CUL is a difficult one. It seems like if they make CUL specialization great then they're ultimately enhancing the consumable grind for raiding. I'm trying to think of interesting things they could do for CUL, because giving them the 4 star food that most people couldn't afford sure wasn't the answer.

Food glam weapons. Gimme my DRG kebab.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

Which only further confirms that Tataru is the best character.

Mister Olympus posted:

Food glam weapons. Gimme my DRG kebab.

PLDs would get this: :btroll:

Maybe a dinner plate for a shield.

HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 20:26 on May 28, 2017

Waci
May 30, 2011

A boy and his dog.

Thumbtacks posted:

Which cutscene is that? I don't remember coil having a CG cutscene

End of T12.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Thyrork posted:

While I appreciate that the majority probably agrees with you, having FF9 be my darling means they're both awesome to me. So Alexander did keep up... mostly, even as the deck is stacked against it. Mide is forgettable, within the context of FF14 alone Bahamut is a huge deal, and Alex kinda feels like a victim of the ruthless dev cycle Heavensward had*.

On the flip side, it was a fun plot in places "Time is flat roundshape!", the goblins were amusing bad guys, some of the fights are genuinely a joy to do and the music is superb in just how loving strange it is.

Overall? I'm glad when an antagonist gets their moment and then are done with. Clawing bad guys through the mud in an effort to keep reusing them is lazy at best, damaging at worst. Bahamut and Alex have had their time to shine, roll on Omega and the other guy. :ssh:.

*Two loving drops per Gordas run out of a pool of three loving items and the horror stories surrounding A3S and A4S?! They say they learned from their mistakes and Midas/Creator shows that, but I really hope they never backslide into that kind of poo poo again!

I think they did the best job they could have done with a time travel plot, although Mide really is the worst. I kept wanting someone to ask her how she got that scar and her response would be "What scar" and we find out that it's just the mark left from her running her finger over it all the time.

The song that hits me the hardest is still Dragonsong/Contention. There was a lot more to the dragon war storyline than answers to me, mainly because I didn't play 1.0 and don't really care about what happened in it. It's really cool that they timed the music and everything for t13, but the song itself just doesn't evoke as much.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
i can't wait for Krile to introduce us to Bartz, Faris, Lenna, and Galuf, and for all of them to escort the WoL through Interdimensional Rift

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

I look forward to the 24 man raid fight against Greg.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

ImpAtom posted:

I look forward to the 24 man raid fight against Greg.

This is how they will add weapons to 24 mans.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

Lemon-Lime posted:

Everyone's VAs changed in HW. Nearly all of them change for the better, Alphinaud was jarring but ends up being real good, and tragically, the one character whose voice gets straight up worse is Merlwyb. :(

Basically the best and worst part of it is that she's barely spoken since the change. The devs know...

Meldonox posted:

so few are going for anime yakuza.

If you wanna be seen as yakuza, lose the leopard print.

Though once again I'm saddened by the game's lack of a nice plain shirt. jacket, and slacks outfit. Also how body tattoos are tied to clothes.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

ImpAtom posted:

I look forward to the 24 man raid fight against Greg.

I actually expect him to be either the T8-equivalent boss, or the T11-equivalent. Like he shows up just before a big event as a surprise and is like "gently caress you WoL I've been trapped here for uh-- how much time has passed? Like two weeks, that's it?! this plot makes no sense. okay let's fight"

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Brainamp posted:

Though once again I'm saddened by the game's lack of a nice plain shirt. jacket, and slacks outfit. Also how body tattoos are tied to clothes.

I'm sad about the lack of suit options, something with as simple shirt/tie instead of the best man's would be great

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

The song that hits me the hardest is still Dragonsong/Contention. There was a lot more to the dragon war storyline than answers to me, mainly because I didn't play 1.0 and don't really care about what happened in it. It's really cool that they timed the music and everything for t13, but the song itself just doesn't evoke as much.
Same. Answers is a good rear end song but it like all the 1.0 music was written in a vacuum without any idea of the context it would be used in, they got super lucky that when they were scrolling through their Uematsu music looking for a song to use for the end of an era stuff that it was alphabetically the first in the list.

Dragonsong has a lot more thematic weight cause its actually about something.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Brainamp posted:

Basically the best and worst part of it is that she's barely spoken since the change. The devs know...

Yeah, it makes me hope they're working on fixing it, maybe by just giving the new VA different direction so she sounds more like ARR Merlwyb.

JimmyBiskit
Nov 15, 2007

Lemon-Lime posted:

That's the guy who's been harassing people in front of the FC house for a few weeks now, trying to get people to bird farm for him.

Let me know if Sensual Bard pesters you again, he's in my FC (Mist 5-15) and we're not fond of our membership being shitheads. :v:

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Fridurmus posted:

I wonder if they should start doing an aggressive catching up mechanic with weapons. Nothing too crazy, but "oh hey you hit 60, here's a weapon that will at least let you keep doing something relative to everyone else".

Not that it matters with SB coming, but...

When SB comes, or in an early patch like 4.1, will likely include changes to the HW storyline loot to give you gear up to i240-260 similar to how the ARR storyline gives you i110 or so gear (and you get full i90 from the ARR job quests IIRC).

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST

ImpAtom posted:

I look forward to the 24 man raid fight against Greg.

I'm looking forward to Exdeath myself.

Stormgale posted:

I'm sad about the lack of suit options, something with as simple shirt/tie instead of the best man's would be great

And while we're sad about costume options, I want more capes.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
I'm thinking something like this for a Samurai glam. A bit of a Samurai Champloo style.



But I may change my mind. They've said SAM will share gear with MNK, right? I may go full techno samurai and keep the Ironworks set for awhile. I'm assuming we're getting Magitek weapons for RDM and SAM, right? Everything except Coil and ARR/HW relics?

SonicRulez posted:

And while we're sad about costume options, I want more capes.

I would also like more capes and cloaks.

HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 22:48 on May 28, 2017

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Labyrinth of the Ancients monk set is some primo SAM glamour gear.


Rare as rocking horse poo poo though

Tsurupettan
Mar 26, 2011

My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Leofish posted:

But I may change my mind. They've said SAM will share gear with MNK, right? I may go full techno samurai and keep the Ironworks set for awhile. I'm assuming we're getting Magitek weapons for RDM and SAM, right? Everything except Coil and ARR/HW relics?

i am hoping and praying that RDM and SAM get the same treatment as the HW jobs did and they retroactively get ARR (and HW) era weapons for primals and such. especially because some of the ARR weapons for MCH/DRK/AST were radical.

moogle katana please.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist

Tsurupettan posted:

i am hoping and praying that RDM and SAM get the same treatment as the HW jobs did and they retroactively get ARR (and HW) era weapons for primals and such. especially because some of the ARR weapons for MCH/DRK/AST were radical.

moogle katana please.

I though they were getting Alexander weapons, but they aren't getting Coil weapons. Not 100% though.

I'm not sure about primals at either level though.

Xenoveritas
May 9, 2010
Dinosaur Gum
They've already confirmed that they are. They're getting weapons for everything except Coil and relics.

Edit:

Letter from the Producer LIVE posted:

A: Allagan tomestones of esoterics, lore, and scripture gear will also include gear for the new jobs. These previous tomestone exchangeable gear will be available via poetics.

Additionally, equipment will be added to dungeons post level 51, and trials such as Nidhogg, and Alexander. And of course, we have prepared weapons with the added visual effect for the new jobs as well. Coil, Anima and Zodiac weapons will not be added.

Xenoveritas fucked around with this message at 23:15 on May 28, 2017

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Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

old primal weapons for rdm/sam were confirmed

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