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The weird thing about pirates is that despite consistently taking it in, no one has tried a copycat. Closest thing is Verbinski himself doing Lone Ranger
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DeimosRising posted:The weird thing about pirates is that despite consistently taking it in, no one has tried a copycat. Closest thing is Verbinski himself doing Lone Ranger
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May 28, 2017 02:37
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FilthyImp posted:Isn't that what the Haunted Mansion, Battleship and other cash ins of the same Ilk were? Pirates and Haunted Mansion came out the same year and Country Bears Jamboree predated both of them.
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May 28, 2017 02:39
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Even with CGI, I imagine movies set mostly on the ocean are still a logistical pain.
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May 28, 2017 02:43
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Films like Pirates are not going to be copied that much because they cost an insane amount to make.
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FilthyImp posted:Isn't that what the Haunted Mansion, Battleship and other cash ins of the same Ilk were? I didn't see Haunted Mansion, but Battleship isn't remotely similar. I get what you mean with the unusual IP licensing but I mean more like movies that are overtly similar stylistically or in setting.
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May 28, 2017 02:50
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Battleship is more Hasbro trying to make money from their IPs the same way they were doing with Transformers. They more or less ignored board games now in favor of their other toylines like GI Joe, Micronauts, MLP, and ROM. Somehow it seems appropriate that Baywatch's budget is 69 million.
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May 28, 2017 03:06
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The MSJ posted:Battleship is more Hasbro trying to make money from their IPs the same way they were doing with Transformers. They more or less ignored board games now in favor of their other toylines like GI Joe, Micronauts, MLP, and ROM. Which is a shame because I'd watch the hell out of a direct to Netflix/Amazon/Whatever the gently caress D&D/MTG series. They could make it a low budget and just have fun with it embrace how cheesy everything about those games are.
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May 28, 2017 03:11
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Outside of Marvel has any "cinematic universe" actually taken off?
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muscles like this! posted:Outside of Marvel has any "cinematic universe" actually taken off? The Fast & Furious series.
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May 28, 2017 03:24
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Harry Potter if that counts. X men has been consistently successful.
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muscles like this! posted:Outside of Marvel has any "cinematic universe" actually taken off? The DCEU is 3 movies in and already grossed 2 billion dollars. Although they were slow to actually become a cinematic universe, X-Men have been at an upswing lately. Edit: F&F is more of a normal movie series until the Hobbes/Shaw movie takes off. Harry Potter also has only one cinematic spinoff so far but if you count The Cursed Child and the various stories and essays Rowling wrote after the movies it's a universe that challenge Star Wars. Speaking of which, with Rogue One and the cartoons, Star Wars also counts as a successful example. The MSJ fucked around with this message at 03:31 on May 28, 2017 |
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May 28, 2017 03:26
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The MSJ posted:F&F is more of a normal movie series until the Hobbes/Shaw movie takes off. Fast 5 has a character that draws from different movies with different leads to bring together a team to take on their biggest challenge yet. It's The Avengers a year before The Avengers.
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May 28, 2017 03:40
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Len posted:Which is a shame because I'd watch the hell out of a direct to Netflix/Amazon/Whatever the gently caress D&D/MTG series. They could make it a low budget and just have fun with it embrace how cheesy everything about those games are. I think they still have plans for a D&D movie, at least.
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May 28, 2017 03:47
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Every Pirates movie is wayyyyy too long
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May 28, 2017 03:49
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Oh god there was a third direct to video D&D movie And it was named after the splatbook with the pedophile bad guy in it https://www.slideshare.net/MewChan/dd-35-book-of-vile-darkness (pages 17 and 18)
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May 28, 2017 03:53
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It gets brought up about once a year but the third (and I'll argue the second) Dungeons & Dragons films are both good DTV films and probably are better than anything out new this weekend.
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May 28, 2017 03:58
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Sir Kodiak posted:Fast 5 has a character that draws from different movies with different leads to bring together a team to take on their biggest challenge yet. It's The Avengers a year before The Avengers. All of those characters are from movies called some variation of Fast and Furious, they're just sequels.
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May 28, 2017 04:47
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Yeah I don't think the whole disparate films eventually the together thing that Marvel did was ever really attempted by anyone before. Save maybe for Universal and the old Monster movies, or Toho"s Godzilla tying Rodan and Mothra in. I suppose the closest is AvP, but gently caress that noise. Or, I guess, Freddy v Jason.
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May 28, 2017 05:43
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Marvel are the first to really pull it off in any meaningful way, and to stick to some sort of overarching plan. The DC films might keep coming since they make enough money but they're doing a lovely job of following the same blueprint. The Universal series crossovers came late in the game after they started running out of ideas, and decided to have their monsters fight each other.
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May 28, 2017 06:11
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Why didn't Freddy vs. Jason 2 happen? Didn't he first one do pretty well, was it a licensing thing, or no one cared?
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Skwirl posted:All of those characters are from movies called some variation of Fast and Furious, they're just sequels. That makes sense if what we're talking about is marketing. That, basically, the MCU is just a bunch of sequels with an unusual naming scheme.
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Just got out of pirates. It was...about 2 hours and 10 minutes. My thoughts: Things I liked: 1. The guillotine gag. 2. Paul's minute of screen time. 3. The zombie sharks being handled by the ghost crew like primitive torpedoes. 4. Barbossa's all gold ship and captains quarters. WTF moments: 1. Weirdly mean toward women. At one point Jack is forced at gunpoint to marry a woman but she's FAT and UGLY. Then the girl character who's an educated and rebellious explorer/scientist (lots of girl power dialogue) doesn't have much personality beyond "sassy" and is ogled by all the men all the time. 2. It features the stolen diary of Galileo the woman character's dad gave to her as a baby before she was abandoned (surprise its Barbossa) with this big fuckoff ruby slapped on the front that, when removed, reveals National Treasure-style secrets on the front cover (written in modern English). 3. In the final battle, Jack fights the mermaid on the front of ghost ship's bow for no reason at all but to throw a few more dollars on screen. I knew what I was expecting going in, and it delivered exactly that. A C-grade swashbuckling experience. I feel already the movie fading out of my mind as I write this.
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I know Asylum makes ripoff movies, but I wish the ultra-shameless 70s/80s distributors still existed that would release say Cutthroat Island right now and title it Pirates of the Deadly Caribbean or whatever.
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May 28, 2017 07:40
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Until POTC 1 it was commonly held that pirate movies were a dead genre following the large scale failures of Nate & Hayes and Cuthroat Island. There was maybe a couple other ones too. The Island starring Michael Caine and David Warner comes across like a really really dark version of Hook from a decade earlier. The only successful pirate movie I can think of from the 80s and 90s would be Muppet Treasure Island.
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I've never thought of waterworld as a pirate movie.
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Mad Max Fury Road was sort of a pirate movie, set in a world without oceans.
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Eastbound Spider posted:I've never thought of waterworld as a pirate movie. I think it is because there is a treasure map, and robing each other on water. through there is no crew really. how important is that element?
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Casimir Radon posted:Until POTC 1 it was commonly held that pirate movies were a dead genre following the large scale failures of Nate & Hayes and Cuthroat Island. There was maybe a couple other ones too. The Island starring Michael Caine and David Warner comes across like a really really dark version of Hook from a decade earlier. The only successful pirate movie I can think of from the 80s and 90s would be Muppet Treasure Island. Goddamn, someone else saw and remembers The Island. You are exactly correct, too. I had never thought of it that way.
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The MSJ posted:Mad Max Fury Road was sort of a pirate movie, set in a world without oceans. When you think about it, isn't everything a pirate movie?
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Alhazred posted:When you think about it, isn't everything a pirate movie? I know all mine are 
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The MSJ posted:Speaking of which, with Rogue One and the cartoons, Star Wars also counts as a successful example. I think you mean Cinematic Galaxy
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May 28, 2017 16:08
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Please do not talk about pirating movies on this subforum.
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muscles like this! posted:Outside of Marvel has any "cinematic universe" actually taken off? Kevin Smith's View Askewniverse?  (That's the actual name of all his interconnected films, I didn't make that up) FilthyImp posted:Yeah I don't think the whole disparate films eventually the together thing that Marvel did was ever really attempted by anyone before. Save maybe for Universal and the old Monster movies, or Toho"s Godzilla tying Rodan and Mothra in. The classic Toho Showa era Godzilla films brought in a whole bunch of monsters from unrelated standalone films: Mothra, Rodan and Varan all had their own self-titled films (and Mothra had it's own trilogy later on) Baragon came from Frankenstein Conquers the World (which also had a sequel), Manda came from the '63 film Atragon and Gorosaurus came from King Kong Escapes. Destroy All Monsters was pretty much the Avengers of the Godzilla shared universe.
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May 28, 2017 17:21
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Kevin Smith's View Askewniverse? If you're gonna count K Smith you have to count Sandler as well. Pretty sure they both have Dantes in their continuity.
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syscall girl posted:If you're gonna count K Smith you have to count Sandler as well. Pretty sure they both have Dantes in their continuity. Boo this pun. Boo it!
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May 28, 2017 17:51
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A few pages back, but I really wish that different comedy groups over time had all Met Frankenstein. Cheech & Chong Meet Frankenstein, Monty Python Meets Frankenstein, Key & Peele Meet Frankenstein. Big missed opportunity, history.
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feedmyleg posted:A few pages back, but I really wish that different comedy groups over time had all Met Frankenstein. Cheech & Chong Meet Frankenstein, Monty Python Meets Frankenstein, Key & Peele Meet Frankenstein. Big missed opportunity, history. Harold and Kumar go to Frankenstein's Castle?
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Imagine paging through Frankenstein's guestbook.
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