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May 28, 2017 17:39
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Only good outdoor game is in - 20 weather. You're up, Winnipeg.
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JoelJoel posted:Only good outdoor game is in - 20 weather. You're up, Winnipeg. They're too scared to put one in January. That's why the one last year was in October and it was 9 degrees celcius.
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The teams don't get any extra money from those outdoor games. What the Penguins got in exchange for the Stadium Series home game, for example, was a makeup cost for losing a PPG Arena home game. The money on top of that, the NHL kept.
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eXXon posted:
You mean Kadri v Ovi right Gio posted:winter classic was an already stale gimmick that was murdered by league over-saturation. once the novelty of having an outdoor game wore off it was just one of eighty-two boring regular season games. On the other hand I went to one and it was fun I wouldn't go to one across the Detroit border again tho because whooo boy that drive back was a fantastic disaster Thufir posted:Have the all stars compete in Crashed Ice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC635rC_1Us I'd support this
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Jamwad Hilder posted:It should be 1 point for an OT/SO win nothing for losing in my opinion Better yet, ditch the shootout and allow ties, except both teams get 0 points for a tie
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Where does Arizona end up if they do move? They dangle it in front of Quebec and then Bettman screws them over and gives it to Seattle.
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May 28, 2017 19:32
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hyper from Pixie Sticks posted:They dangle it in front of Quebec and then Bettman screws them over and gives it to Seattle. I guess Kansas City has completely given up eh?
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Xtanstic posted:I guess Kansas City has completely given up eh? I honestly don't know. The key element here is screwing Quebec, which happens so often I'm surprised Article 1 of the NHL constitution isn't 'lol gently caress u quebec'
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Xtanstic posted:I guess Kansas City has completely given up eh? I think the big issue with Kansas City is that the arena they'd use is owned by the same group that owns the Kings, and the league really wants to avoid the conflict of interest. Plus, I don't know that KC has anyone motivated to bring hockey to the town in the same way Seattle, Quebec, and Las Vegas do.
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Montreal took on John Scott in exchange of Quebec not getting a team is a good theory
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Teemu Pokemon posted:They should move the winter classic/ASG so they coincide and do the whole week outdoors and that's it I've been saying this for a couple years now. They need to cash in on the spectacle.
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i am the bird posted:I've been saying this for a couple years now. They need to cash in on the spectacle. They could even risk doing it in a city with a football stadium and no professional hockey team like Green Bay, or Seattle, or Denver.
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i am the bird posted:They need to cash in on the spectacle. It's this logic that has led them to increase the number of outdoor games in a season
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Powershift posted:They could even risk doing it in a city with a football stadium and no professional hockey team like Green Bay, or Seattle, or Denver. 
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Lost Season posted:I think the big issue with Kansas City is that the arena they'd use is owned by the same group that owns the Kings, and the league really wants to avoid the conflict of interest. Plus, I don't know that KC has anyone motivated to bring hockey to the town in the same way Seattle, Quebec, and Las Vegas do. I seem to recall reading an article not long ago that the KC arena was making money hand over fist with just concerts, the odd college basketball game/tournament, and other small time stuff and that it was proof maybe arenas like that don't need an anchor tenant any more.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Better yet, ditch the shootout and allow ties, except both teams get 0 points for a tie Then you have some games worth less than others, which is still pretty bad. Way to make just going back to W/L look good. Gio posted:there's only so much you can do to make the regular season interesting. personally i think it'd be cool if the season were significantly shorter, but obviously that'll never happen because teams need to make money. i think it'd be cool though to have a 24 game season, one game a week. Emulating the NFL is dumb poo poo for idiots. A EDIT: This is also conducive to abandoning conferences and divisions and just having the best 16* teams in the playoffs. *You'd even be able to throw out arguments against a 12- or even 8-team playoff tournament that are made from fairness, since equitable schedule, but the owners will never give up the extra revenue or the free labor. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 22:57 on May 28, 2017 |
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Ties are for soccer.
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dont be mean to me posted:A BUT MAH RIVALRIES
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Everyone knows that rivalries are forged during the playoffs. I submit that all teams should therefore qualify for the playoffs.
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You all have terrible ideas and should be ashamed of yourselves.
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If you think the NHL is going to give up 25+% of their revenue by shortening the season you're an idiot
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dont be mean to me posted:Then you have some games worth less than others, which is still pretty bad. If only there was a way to have all games worth the same amount of points. If only all games could be 3 point games. Man, it's too difficult to figure out how there could be a way that was possible. Because surely, if the NHL can't figure it out, somebody like me, a common fan, cannot figure it out.
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The (dumb) argument is that 3 point games would invalidate all the old point records, as if the loser point doesn't already do that.
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dont be mean to me posted:Then you have some games worth less than others, which is still pretty bad. Yes that's the entire point. Teams who don't try to win are bad and should feel bad. If hockey coaches are going to absolutely refuse to play in any way but ultra conservatively then let's goddamn force them to play for a win or else. 
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Suspicious posted:The (dumb) argument is that 3 point games would invalidate all the old point records, as if the loser point doesn't already do that. Any Habs records that can be invalidated should be.
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You can easily reword that record to "most regulation/OT wins in a single season."
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honestly make it so the only team stat is "wins" and the top 8 wins per conference make the playoffs and thats it . If the game goes to 60 minutes and no team wins the game just ends
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ElwoodCuse posted:I seem to recall reading an article not long ago that the KC arena was making money hand over fist with just concerts, the odd college basketball game/tournament, and other small time stuff and that it was proof maybe arenas like that don't need an anchor tenant any more. The same thing happened with the KeyArena after the Sonics left iirc.
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Suspicious posted:The (dumb) argument is that 3 point games would invalidate all the old point records, as if the loser point doesn't already do that. It can't just be this. We had regular season OT added, loser points added, shootouts added, the regular season has gone from (in the expansion era) 74-76-78-80-84-82 games, none of that is consistent or fair.
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ElwoodCuse posted:It can't just be this It isn't. The reason there aren't three point regulation wins is because the current system makes playoff races seem tighter than they actually are. The NHL is a gate driven league, and interest and ticket sales drop markedly when people don't feel like their team can win anything. Changing to a three point win would eliminate a bunch of teams by January, and that would kill gate revenue for them. The owners aren't going to implement a change that negatively affects their pocket book because it makes logical sense or the fans want it. Hockey is a business first and foremost. No decision has ever or will ever be made in the name of "the spirit of the game."
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Except the Subban trade.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Where does Arizona end up if they do move? Quebec is a red hot chance, but the NHL would exponentially rather hold Arizona in Arizona until Seattle, Portland, Kansas or somewhere like that opens up.
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Xtanstic posted:It's this logic that has led them to increase the number of outdoor games in a season It's kind of the opposite, though. It can't be a spectacle if it happens a million times a year.
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It should be wins-losses-shootout wins Shootout and OT losses are worth nothing extra
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Suspicious posted:You can easily reword that record to "most regulation/OT wins in a single season." Or point percentage which is the only metric that actually makes any sense for that record
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dont be mean to me posted:
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 Both of this book's authors have now been fired for being jackasses on social media.
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Why did they think it necessary to write a book about one season of Patrick Roy's coaching? e: For those not in the know, this is why Frei got ditched: 
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