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Symbolic Butt posted:one of them is not white is he asian but raised in america and with no noticeable accent?
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JewKiller 3000 posted:is he asian but raised in america and with no noticeable accent? he's brown... I'm brazilian by the way so this would get into complicated ethnicity poo poo if I start getting too much on this in order to relay to an american audience
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May 29, 2017 01:16
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The Management posted:*writes o(n^3) algorithm during interview* the last dev we hired was straight out of an abet CS program and frequently wrote o(n^3) / o(n^4) code
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May 29, 2017 01:30
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Symbolic Butt posted:one of them is not white if u think 15 yos are excited about anything i have some bad news
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May 29, 2017 01:32
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Rex-Goliath posted:one of the worst interviews I had was with facebook. the guy was the final interview for the first round before they'd decide to fly me out and he let me write up a full solution as i was explaining all of my decisions and tradeoffs every step of the way. finally get to the end of it and he tells me that my solution was wrong and it was because i'd misinterpreted one of his requirements to the problem. he could have stopped me in the first minute as i was laying out my plan but nah. wasn't apologetic at all and acted like i was a dumbass for even misinterpreting his prompt in the first place. he then said 'you should have studied harder for this' which seemed like i hadn't memorized enough CtCI problems. gently caress that a certain percentage of people are going to be poo poo interviewers, that's why bigtech always says "reapply in 6 months" because people will just randomly get screwed why can't you only have good interviewers? because then the good interviewers would have no time for their actual work. make interviewing their only actual work? well now that the position is only for doing interviews they'll have a hard time getting someone at a high enough technical level to actually be good at that position. there's probably a solution here but it's not immediately obvious to me
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May 29, 2017 01:32
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Iverron posted:the last dev we hired was straight out of an abet CS program and frequently wrote o(n^3) / o(n^4) code but o(n^3)/o(n^4) would be, like, o(1/n) which sounds very good
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May 29, 2017 01:32
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DuckConference posted:a certain percentage of people are going to be poo poo interviewers, that's why bigtech always says "reapply in 6 months" because people will just randomly get screwed dumptrucks of money and rotations, probably
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May 29, 2017 01:33
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Bloody posted:if u think 15 yos are excited about anything i have some bad news that's part of how dire the situation is, at this point it makes no difference to bet on a literal child to be less useless
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May 29, 2017 01:43
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DuckConference posted:a certain percentage of people are going to be poo poo interviewers, that's why bigtech always says "reapply in 6 months" because people will just randomly get screwed maybe (hopefully) big companies work differently but every place i've worked has thrown random developers into interviewing with no training whatsoever so uh, that's probably an okay spot to start.
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May 29, 2017 02:02
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jony neuemonic posted:maybe (hopefully) big companies work differently but every place i've worked has thrown random developers into interviewing with no training whatsoever so uh, that's probably an okay spot to start. I'm lucky if I get 24 hrs notice. HR at the current place is.. not great.
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May 29, 2017 02:08
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hobbesmaster posted:most toy problems I've seen have a brute force at O(n^2) and a "good" solution at something like O(nlog(n)). in that context O(n^3) is impressive there's a lot of problems like "maximum contiguous subarray" where the naivest solution is O(n^3), but usually everybody gets the O(n^2) solution to start
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May 29, 2017 02:13
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Bloody posted:but o(n^3)/o(n^4) would be, like, o(1/n) which sounds very good 
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May 29, 2017 02:54
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jony neuemonic posted:maybe (hopefully) big companies work differently but every place i've worked has thrown random developers into interviewing with no training whatsoever so uh, that's probably an okay spot to start. it me my boss seemed astonished that I said I enjoyed being interviewed much more than I enjoy interviewing i hate interviewing. I suck at it and an hour is too long to spend with someone if they aren't engaging enough to keep talking on their own.
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minivanmegafun posted:it me just mash "interview questions" into google and ask all the ones that aren't stupid or illegal
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May 29, 2017 05:06
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in my entire career i've never come upon a situation where not knowing big o notation has affected me in the slightest. the first and only times i ever hear about it are in the context of interviews. like if you're gonna come up with some gotcha bullshit for an interview at least make it a bajillion times less "look at my swinging cs dick"
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May 29, 2017 05:48
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question: is there a gotcha to rsus other than the fact that taxes get taken out as soon as they vest? seems like i could just cash them out as they vest and pay down debt/eventually start putting them in an ira but im wondering if there some catch that keeps you from doing that.
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May 29, 2017 05:52
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cis autodrag posted:seems like i could just cash them out as they vest and pay down debt/eventually start putting them in an ira but im wondering if there some catch that keeps you from doing that. that's exactly what you should do there might be a couple days delay between when RSUs are released to you and when the sale actually settles, so you might actually have a small capital LOSS each time you do this come tax time, so no tax burden beyond what gets handled automatically
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Blinkz0rz posted:in my entire career i've never come upon a situation where not knowing big o notation has affected me in the slightest. the first and only times i ever hear about it are in the context of interviews. people say "big o" as shorthand for "do complexity analysis". if you can't look at your algorithm and explain its runtime and space complexity that's bad. i can't tell you the number of 100x or greater speedups i created in epic's software by just noticing that an algorithm was n^2 or worse and looking for a different approach. complexity analysis is an important tool in your toolbelt for writing well performing code. if you're actually saying that you can do complexity analysis but you never learned the big o big omicron big omega way of writing out floor/base/ceiling, sure that's fine. as long as you know how to figure out how much work your program is doing and how much space it takes up.
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May 29, 2017 05:56
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mishaq posted:that's exactly what you should do thanks friend. im scared shitless of what my taxes will be in california. here i usually end up owing the feds 2 grand because our accounting deparment doesn't seem to understand "no withholding" and the only reason i can cover it is the absurdly large refund wisconsin hands out to ensure the government can't function for another year.
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May 29, 2017 05:57
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cis autodrag posted:thanks friend. im scared shitless of what my taxes will be in california. here i usually end up owing the feds 2 grand because our accounting deparment doesn't seem to understand "no withholding" and the only reason i can cover it is the absurdly large refund wisconsin hands out to ensure the government can't function for another year. RSUs and bonuses automatically get high levels of of withholding on them irrespective of what the setup is on your regular wages, you'll be alright i barely stayed under the underpayment penalty thresholds for both federal and state last year, but that's because I made a lot of money on the ESPP and there's no withholding on your gains since it's all after tax money 
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May 29, 2017 06:04
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the gotcha to rsus is that you get paid double your salary
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May 29, 2017 06:11
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so i guess no, no gotcha
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May 29, 2017 06:12
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Bloody posted:the gotcha to rsus is that you get paid double your salary Bloody posted:so i guess no, no gotcha
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May 29, 2017 06:13
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Bloody posted:the gotcha to rsus is that you get paid double your salary the gotcha is that you gotta not gently caress up the basis when you file your taxes.
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May 29, 2017 06:20
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Bloody posted:the gotcha to rsus is that you get paid double your salary actually the gotcha is that you are golden handcuffed and can't leave.
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May 29, 2017 06:20
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The Management posted:the gotcha is that you gotta not gently caress up the basis when you file your taxes. lol if you hold your employers stock a second longer than required to
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May 29, 2017 06:29
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The Management posted:actually the gotcha is that you are golden handcuffed and can't leave. only if you're dumb enough to let your lifestyle costs inflate to your income and purely put money over satisfaction in your life nothing feels nicer than knowing i can quit/get laid off tomorrow and have enough runway to last for years before id need a job to cover my expenses and vacations
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May 29, 2017 06:31
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cis autodrag posted:people say "big o" as shorthand for "do complexity analysis". if you can't look at your algorithm and explain its runtime and space complexity that's bad. i can't tell you the number of 100x or greater speedups i created in epic's software by just noticing that an algorithm was n^2 or worse and looking for a different approach. I was going to type a response but this is better. Big O is just repeated enough in an average CS education that you default to it when what you mean is "oh my god it's full of multi-nested fors".
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one gotcha is that you may only have certain trading windows where youre allowed to sell your RSUs. these are meant to stave off claims that employees are doing insider trading if they sell their RSUs just before a quarterly earnings report or w/e. it just so happens that everyone else in the company is subject to those trading window periods as well, so as a result there's a big ol sale whenever the trading window opens, and the stock price can dip a bit during that period as a result one way to get around this is if your company offers some kind of autosell option, where you sign up for autosell at the start of the year and then poo poo sells whether or not you want it to. the autosell is therefore not subject to your whims and itll sell even when not within a declared trading window but yeah the only real "gotcha" with RSUs is you're getting a big jump in your income after youve been there a year
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i recommend selling your RSUs asap as they vest if only because depending on a single company for both income and savings is generally a bad idea (see e.g. enron employees who had their 401k in enron stock)
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May 29, 2017 06:41
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mishaq posted:only if you're dumb enough to let your lifestyle costs inflate to your income and purely put money over satisfaction in your life lol if you're not on a trajectory to retire within a decade
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Progressive JPEG posted:i recommend selling your RSUs asap as they vest if only because depending on a single company for both income and savings is generally a bad idea (see e.g. enron employees who had their 401k in enron stock) this tho you can definitely tell who held their amzn when they got it at 80 and who didnt
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mishaq posted:nothing feels nicer than knowing i can quit/get laid off tomorrow and have enough runway to last for years before id need a job to cover my expenses and vacations I just took an entire year off of work without loving up my finances too much, I highly recommend it if you can afford to do so [it was originally going to be 6-8 months but it took me a while to find a decent new gig]
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May 29, 2017 10:37
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i don't have a cs degree. should i just kill myself right now
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95%+ of the time the db handles all that "complexity" stuff for me occasionally i see a bunch of lovely nested loops or w/e, but they're in places where it doesn't matter and gently caress if i'm going to go out my way to fix them
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cis autodrag posted:people say "big o" as shorthand for "do complexity analysis". if you can't look at your algorithm and explain its runtime and space complexity that's bad. i can't tell you the number of 100x or greater speedups i created in epic's software by just noticing that an algorithm was n^2 or worse and looking for a different approach. that's kind of what i'm getting at. if you went into an interview and were like "oh i don't know any of the notation for complexity analysis but i can spot a poorly performing algorithm and refactor it with a better choice" you'd still get laughed out because interviewing had become a lovely cargo-culting fuckstorm of gotchas and it's terrible and i hate it
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the worst part is if you say "landau notation" 90% of your interviewers don't know what you're talking about e: and a couple times I said an algorithm was big theta of whatever and then I had to explain that theta was a tighter bound than O leper khan fucked around with this message at 12:50 on May 29, 2017 |
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qirex posted:I just took an entire year off of work without loving up my finances too much, I highly recommend it if you can afford to do so [it was originally going to be 6-8 months but it took me a while to find a decent new gig] i did a year one time and 4 months the second time all in the past 4 years, it was the best
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mishaq posted:i did a year one time and 4 months the second time all in the past 4 years, it was the best I once had an offer pulled from me and then played poker full time for 6 mos; does that count?
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