Police Automaton posted:

Daphne&Niles was terrible and the show was poorer for it

beep by grandpa posted:

NewsRadio flipped that established trope on its head and got Dave & Lisa together on, what, the third episode?

Bea Nanner posted:

mel was just maris with a face

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Cosmik Slop posted:

It should have been Niles and Mel. She was never the raging bitch-goddess the show had to turn her into so the Niles/Daphne "magic" would look better in comparison.

Sir Lemming posted:

Every will-they-won't-they is terrible if you really think about it, but it's just part of sitcom logic. Niles & Daphne ruled. (Until they got together.)

ElGroucho posted:

Remember when Pam was the sweetest lady during the Jim and Pam romance, and as soon as they got married she turned in to a real sarcastic rear end in a top hat? Sitcom writers know the real deal

Mega64 posted:

Don't feel bad for Roy. He would've been stuck in a depressing rut married to Pam, and even though he hit rock bottom, in the final season he ended up owning a successful business and marrying someone hotter and generally seeming much happier than Jim and Pam were.

food court bailiff posted:

that was genuinely uplifting


it's kinda like the new gilmore girls miniseries which kind of retroactively justifies the entire original show by showing rory's life falling apart more and more over the course of a year because being a snobby pretentious wit-dispenser is not actually a marketable skill

sassassin posted:

Rory spends the entire original series loving up her life though.

She's explicitly the worst Gilmore girl by the end.

naem posted:

Alexis Bledel is super hot though

Solice Kirsk posted:

Hey! This is a Frasier thread. If you wanna talk about Newsradio and Dave Foley and his amazing performances in The Kids in the Hall and Blast From the Past then start another thread!



Actually, we probably should:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhrnMbhMgmw

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Listen I started this thread okay my Frasier fan credentials are in order. I love me some Frasier! It's just hard for Newsradio not to come up in a discussion about any sitcom because it's the pinnacle of the genre.

sassassin posted:

Rory spends the entire original series loving up her life though.

She's explicitly the worst Gilmore girl by the end.

Ralph Crammed In posted:

I hate Jim on The Office so much. He thinks he so much better than everyone he works with for no good reason. Yeah, go on Jim, be a dick to Dwight all the time just because he has a strong work ethic and isn't charmed by your dumb shenanigans. He's supposed to be a stand in I guess for the viewer because "he's an average guy just like you!" but I'm not a massive smarmy cock to everyone interact with.

gently caress I hate Jim and I hate the presumption that I should like him.

Cessna posted:

quote:

It is a dark and stormy night. The Stingray is rolling wildly. Dodge has Jacson, who was a basketball player at the Naval Acadamy (so why is he enlisted?) climb to the top of the periscope and hang the drop light from it. The guy he sends op slips and barely manages to hang on. He mutters under his breath “I never saw THIS poo poo on a recruiting poster!” I love that line. He gets the light attached as the Orlando approaches periscope depth.

Man, that scene…

I mentioned that most of the filming took place during the period when the sub was closed to the public and then towed up to Suisun Bay. Well, that scene was filmed early on, when the boat was still down at Fisherman’s Wharf. You can’t really see anything in the background due to the storm, and it was easier for them to bring in water...

The sub used to do Cub/Boy Scout tours and camping expeditions. They’d get a full tour, and some groups would spend the night on a sub. They’d set up watches, eat a meal cooked in the (still working) galley, etc. They were a lot of fun for the kids. We tried to re-schedule all of the groups that were supposed to have the boat during filming, but there was one group scheduled for a day on the boat, driving in from the Central Valley, that we couldn’t get ahold of.

So here’s how Hollywood films a “storm.” Remember how they were up on the periscope getting drenched with rain? Well, they can’t wait for a day when it rains. They make their own storm. With firehoses. You know you’re in for a bad time when they bring in multiple huge tanks full of water.

Ever been to San Francisco? It doesn’t snow there, but there’s a constant foggy, clammy cold in the air. It just bites through you.

Filming started just as it got dark. Poor Kelsey Grammer and Duane Martin went up on that mast, exposed to the wind – and they just soaked them with the hoses. The first time they got hit they almost fell off, even though they were lashed to the mast. That water was ice cold. They recovered, acted out the scene – cut.

And then they did it again. And again. And again. And again.

They filmed all. drat. Night.

Around midnight they let Grammer and Martin down, wrapped them up with towels, let them get inside into our only real building on the pier, a big toolshed, and gave them hot coffee. Half an hour later they were back up there tied to the masts, getting blasted with high pressure ice water.

And then they did it again. And again. And again. And again.

It was just miserable. Everyone who wasn’t with the film crew felt awful for them. The film crew didn’t care – “that’s why they make the big bucks, turn the hoses on again.” Over and over and over. They stopped filming when the sun started to come up. They were just miserable, pale and shaking, soaked to the bone and freezing.

And then the Boy Scouts showed up.

They came down the pier, ready for their tour, and saw the filming. One of them saw Grammer, wretched and shivering, and said “it’s Frasier!” (This was the mid-90’s, when kids would recognize Frasier or know about the show Cheers.)

Now, by any reasonable standard Grammer should have waved and said something like hey, kids, good to see you and left. Or he could have ducked out entirely.

But he was such a pro that even though filming was done he stayed there and hung out with the kids. He told them stories about being an actor, cracked them up telling jokes, told them about Cheers and how he got into acting, you name it.

It was amazing. Again, there he was, hit by ice-cold firehoses all drat night, freezing cold and sleepless, but when it came time to tell jokes to the kids, there he was, goofing around with them, singing songs, giving them a great time. And not on camera, either. Everyone involved in filming was packing up and leaving, but he was there for the kids, and no one else would ever know he’d done it. He stayed with them for two hours, them laughing the whole time, until they left to get their tour of the sub – and then he went and changed into dry clothes.

Say what you will about the guy, I have tremendous respect for him for that.

maskenfreiheit posted:

The episode Frasier was zonked out on pain pills was probably jackpot for Kelsey Grammer.

"Oh yes I'll uh... pretend... to be zonked out on oxy. ACTION!"

ElGroucho posted:

I tried to watch this poo poo and kept hoping a serial killer would take care of all these people

I don't know if I was supposed to be on the rich parents side, but I was, and that never happens

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

uh anyway just so this post isn't total derail, I found this anecdote about Kelsey Grammar when he was filming Down Periscope

B.H. Facials posted:

https://youtu.be/6bxoAsvhcOI