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vodkat posted:despite what this tread would have you think, the graun is the most consistently labour endorsing paper in the uk, and will do so almost unthinkingly. You're actually not quite right. The Mirror is the most consistent of all UK newspapers in endorsing labour. The graun, originally founded by Manchester mill owners, has always been a bourgeois liberal reformist paper. Its editors since its inception have historically had a pretty virulent loathing for the left wing of the British labour movement, nursing an acrimonious grudge against Aneurin Bevan, suggesting Clem Attlee's government should be voted out and backing the SDP Liberal alliance in the 1983 election.
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The graun is a beautiful expression of quintessential liberalism, all talk, never there when it matters.
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My favourite bit of Graun shame is their opposition to the establishment of the NHS on the grounds that it would impede natural selection and leave us mired in feckless, indolent proletarians that lack the good grace to die of black lung, tuberculosis or cholera like they're supposed to.
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Acaila posted:The fact that you can even ask this and clearly not consider trains, monster munch, plugs, Corbyn memes, trying to pin down Pissy on anything and telling racist poo poo heads to gently caress off shows just how out of touch you are what the UKMT. A significant number of the things you listed are either tweets or sniping at people though.
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Baron Corbyn posted:Pissflaps would be correct. Ya I don't really see how its controversial. The brexit was a vote to get 'foreigners out' or as they said in german 'auslander raus.' It is transparently racist.
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https://www.ft.com/content/4ebc8f1e-43c0-11e7-8d27-59b4dd6296b8quote:Polls, including YouGov, that show narrower Conservative leads are those that assign probabilities of voting based wholly or primarily on a respondent’s self-reported likelihood of casting a ballot, meaning that young people make up a far bigger proportion of the likely vote than they have historically. Maybe this time... this time will be different 
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Redgrendel2001 posted:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/fbi-warned-mi5-january-manchester-attack-bomber-salman-abedi-manchester-arena-a7760756.html How so you think the person that made the call to ignore this is sleeping. Pretty much every red flag possible was raised with this guy.
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A fresh scandal rocks the Labour General Election campaign this morning, as we can exclusively reveal that Jeremy Corbyn once entered a cemetery where a terrorist was buried. Can this man be trusted to defend Britain?
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Oberleutnant posted:A fresh scandal rocks the Labour General Election campaign this morning, as we can exclusively reveal that Jeremy Corbyn once entered a cemetery where a terrorist was buried. Guido Fawkes did nothing wrong
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Oberleutnant posted:A fresh scandal rocks the Labour General Election campaign this morning, as we can exclusively reveal that Jeremy Corbyn once entered a cemetery where a terrorist was buried. That's not the accusation though is it.
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TomViolence posted:My favourite bit of Graun shame is their opposition to the establishment of the NHS on the grounds that it would impede natural selection and leave us mired in feckless, indolent proletarians that lack the good grace to die of black lung, tuberculosis or cholera like they're supposed to. The NHS is the reason for all the olds.
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Zephro posted:https://www.ft.com/content/4ebc8f1e-43c0-11e7-8d27-59b4dd6296b8 Isn't it the case that polls have generally always used a persons claimed likeleyhood if voting as the weighting until now and some have just hanged it after the 2015 polls being wrong? Perhaps 2015 was an aberration rather than the new norm.
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Pissflaps posted:That's not the accusation though is it. I'm impressed you think this means literally anything.
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Noxville posted:Isn't it the case that polls have generally always used a persons claimed likeleyhood if voting as the weighting until now and some have just hanged it after the 2015 polls being wrong? Perhaps 2015 was an aberration rather than the new norm. Lots of factors - claimed likelihood, voting record, age, economic bracket, length of.time at address etc. - will be part of all firms models. They make minor tweaks to them constantly but rarely major changes as it breaks continuity. You are no longer comparing like with like in terms of your own numbers. There has been a general feeling that classic models weren't doing the business for a while. Yougov were still doing things like weighting by what newspaper respondents read but struggling to find enough readers of many papers to meet their quota. Then there was 2015 which was such a mess for some big firms that they have been forced to reassess. The indy ref was also bad for some. Rather than an outlier therefore, 2015 was more the latest stage in a progression. However that doesn't mean firms necessarily have their models right now. Some smaller and newer firms did well in 2015. It will be very interesting to see who comes out on top. Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 10:03 on May 29, 2017 |
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Tesseraction posted:I like how your go-to proof of not being racist is voting to Remain given that totally-not-racist former BNP leader Nick Griffin voted to Remain in order to promote white flight. Good lord you've been on a roll the past few days. Jippa posted:How so you think the person that made the call to ignore this is sleeping. Pretty much every red flag possible was raised with this guy. I think the person that was supposed to make the call was made redundant a few months ago.
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Why does he keep calling it ramadam?
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Public trusts Labour more than Conservatives to protect pensioners, poll saysquote:Almost twice as many people trust Labour more than the Conservatives to protect the interests of pensioners, according to an exclusive poll for The Independent.
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This thread has been actively really bad lately, even by our own standards of embarrassing slap fights & inability to just ignore shitposters. Anyway, so this tweet isn't just me moaning about posting, have a tweet too! https://twitter.com/DMReporter/status/869118327968419840 Who could have guessed our press had been so negative towards Labour? In other news, a Guardian story about kids having to hoover their own classrooms because it can't afford to hire a new cleaner. Starve The Beast is really working, it's going to be bad when the Tories win forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 10:18 on May 29, 2017 |
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hakimashou posted:Ya I don't really see how its controversial. The brexit was a vote to get 'foreigners out' or as they said in german 'auslander raus.' EU immigration policy where we accept people from our mostly white European neighbours while simultaneously refusing those from Africa/Asia ect is actually transparently racist.
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Benjamin Arthur posted:EU immigration policy where we accept people from our mostly white European neighbours while simultaneously refusing those from Africa/Asia ect is actually transparently racist. The BNP actually used this argument against UKIP. UKIP were against European immigration, whereas the BNP were against ALL immigration, and therefore weren't racist.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:The BNP actually used this argument against UKIP. UKIP were against European immigration, whereas the BNP were against ALL immigration, and therefore weren't racist. I don't give a wank about a slap fight between two quasi fascist groups. EU immigration policy is quite clearly inherently racist.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Why does he keep calling it ramadam? woah Black Betty, ramadam
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Benjamin Arthur posted:EU immigration policy where we accept people from our mostly white European neighbours while simultaneously refusing those from Africa/Asia ect is actually transparently racist. What's that got to do wth the brexit though?
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Like ramadamadingdong, or give peace a chance.
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This certainly is bad for Corbyn http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/shame-for-corbyn-as-source-confirms-labour-leader-had-curry-with-skeletor-in-1991/
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Benjamin Arthur posted:I don't give a wank about a slap fight between two quasi fascist groups. EU immigration policy is quite clearly inherently racist. Yes, and? Both the EU immigration policy and the Brexit obsession with immigration control are racist. I fail to see what's the issue here.
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Here's a Mark Blyth zinger: https://twitter.com/MkBlyth/status/868259220516458496
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Zephro posted:https://www.ft.com/content/4ebc8f1e-43c0-11e7-8d27-59b4dd6296b8
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hakimashou posted:What's that got to do wth the brexit though? That and the UK having to write trade deals without a pedestal for the first time in a couple centuries. serious gaylord posted:Good lord you've been on a roll the past few days.
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A friend of mine voted leave because he was pissed off at the cost and process he had to go through for his US girlfriend to live here, so it was basically a vote in spite so that EU immigrants have to go through the same thing.
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hakimashou posted:What's that got to do wth the brexit though? Not much really but the line of thinking that all leave voters are racist or thick is just intellectually lazy and it's something that's quite common in this thread.
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Guavanaut posted:Actually they're called cobs. What have you done.
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dispatch_async posted:Public trusts Labour more than Conservatives to protect pensioners, poll says and yet pensioners will massively vote tories, makes u think
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Could this actually happen? http://ind.pn/2rbzUgU
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Jakabite posted:Could this actually happen? How would relaunching not just make them look more terrible?
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The fear could happen, sure.
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Steve2911 posted:How would relaunching not just make them look more terrible? It may well do that, but everyone else has relaunched since Manchester, so them not doing it would seem a bit weird.
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Steve2911 posted:How would relaunching not just make them look more terrible?  
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