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Will Jon Jones ever fight in the UFC again?
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Yes 59 56.73%
No 45 43.27%
Total: 104 votes
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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Embedded #1 for 212 is up. I completely forgot that was this weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-F1oHWY7s

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threeagainstfour
Jun 27, 2005


Memento posted:

Embedded #1 for 212 is up. I completely forgot that was this weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-F1oHWY7s

The main event is insanely sick. Claudia vs Karolina should be fun as well and I'm looking forward to the UFC debut of Marlon Moraes.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
I dunno, Moraes seems pretty great but it's been three and a half years since he fought someone with a wikipedia page. Assunção is pretty good, so if Moraes can get past him I will absolutely say Moraes belongs playing with the big boys*.



*metaphorically big

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Aldo good.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Dan Didio posted:

Aldo good.

I have only seen one Aldo fight that I can recall and unfortunately it was the Conor fight (well, the fight ruled but for different reasons), so I've never really seen what he's capable of. He's supposed to be really, really, really drat good, right?

SquirrelGrip
Jul 4, 2012

Dan Didio posted:

Aldo good.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Jerusalem posted:

I have only seen one Aldo fight that I can recall and unfortunately it was the Conor fight (well, the fight ruled but for different reasons), so I've never really seen what he's capable of. He's supposed to be really, really, really drat good, right?

Go watch the second Edgar Aldo fight.

It's probably not the most entertaining fight ever and it's on the piss yellow UFC 200 mat so it's an eye sore too, but if you want to see how good he is, that's a good bet because you know how good Frankie Edgar is, right?

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

Jerusalem posted:

He's supposed to be really, really, really drat good, right?

I'd consider even this an understatement. You need to go and check out aldo / mendes II and both frank edgar fights. it's hard to verbalise what's so special about him when he's got that conor loss, but wrestling just simply does not work against him. the only thing that's worked against him is a massive lightweight with an obscene reach advantage and power that can accurately be described as unfair got to him, and i'd consider that result an outlier if they fought ten times.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


As cool and funny as the 13 second KO was, it sucks because a 5 round fight between Conor and Aldo would definitely be one of the best fights of all time and it answered like two questions.

1. Can Conor knock Aldo out? Yes
2. Was Aldo the saltiest human being on the planet when that fight started? Yes

Everything else about MMA is up in the air about that match up so it's just poo poo we're not seeing a re-run.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
the same man can beat jose aldo and get brutally hosed up by nate diaz. true dat.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Marching Powder posted:

go and check out aldo / mendes II

Okay. So far it's good but nothing gre-
last 40 seconds of round 1
:stare:

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

Jerusalem posted:

Okay. So far it's good but nothing gre-
last 40 seconds of round 1
:stare:

strap in.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

Jerusalem posted:

He's supposed to be really, really, really drat good, right?

He's the greatest featherweight of all time and arguably the greatest fighter of all time.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Aldo/Mendes 2 is a fight everyone should watch at least once, but you really miss out on something if you don't watch Aldo/Mendes 1 and all of Mendes intervening fights.

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011
aldo is my favourite fighter. it would be a shame if he never got a chance to fight conor again whatever the result might be

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Watching Aldo/Edgar now.

Loved Aldo's post-fight interview in the Mendes fight.

"So did you deliberately punch him after the buzzer?"
"I knew I had to punch him, so when I saw the chance I punched him."

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
the thing about conor is if he goes out now there's going to be a million questions and a million asterisks on the motherfucker. i know in my heart of hearts if he carry on in this game he'll have more embarrassing losses than nathan diaz on his ticket. if he loses to floyd and punches out though, he'll be a flat out legend and arguably the greatest to have ever done it, which, as not a particularly strong fan of his, i want him to do. he's something else.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

Jerusalem posted:

Watching Aldo/Edgar now.

Loved Aldo's post-fight interview in the Mendes fight.

"So did you deliberately punch him after the buzzer?"
"I knew I had to punch him, so when I saw the chance I punched him."

i forgot completely about that. you know aldo was pushed when he goes there. fence grabbing? that's for proto-mendes. undefended shots to the head? that's for a loving challenger.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

I.N.R.I posted:

aldo is my favourite fighter. it would be a shame if he never got a chance to fight conor again whatever the result might be

Yeah.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Jerusalem posted:

Watching Aldo/Edgar now.

Loved Aldo's post-fight interview in the Mendes fight.

"So did you deliberately punch him after the buzzer?"
"I knew I had to punch him, so when I saw the chance I punched him."

It wasn't even after the buzzer. It was on it and he's just that quick. He can't unthrow the punch.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
It's a punch followed by two punches. The first is before the buzzer, the next two, the ones that really gently caress Mendes up, are during it.

The more important factor is that Goddard doesn't really get between them and end the round before Aldo knocks Mendes down. He kind of shoves his hands out and down between their waists, then intervenes fully as Mendes is falling back.

Also that fight has like three eyepokes and two nut-shots, it's really good.

Shirkelton fucked around with this message at 11:11 on May 29, 2017

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Josuke Higashikata posted:

It wasn't even after the buzzer. It was on it and he's just that quick. He can't unthrow the punch.

I didn't go back to look, but it struck me as one right on the buzzer and then the follow-up half a second later. Still probably him just throwing a combo that happened to hit the second shot after the buzzer, but I just laughed at his reaction when asked being,"Well I saw the chance to hit him so I took it! v:shobon:v"

Aldo/Edgar I, it's crazy to watch slow-mo of Aldo taking a hard upper-cut to the face but still connecting with his shot even as his head is snapping backwards.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
It's cool when Mendes fakes a punch, into a faked shot, then throws an uppercut from the floor straight to Aldo's chin and before Aldo's even got his front foot back down from being thrown backwards by the punch, he's throwing out a jab to back Mendes off.

Aldo/Edgar 1 also has a cool Frankie moment when Aldo headkicks him and Frankie just keeps fighting.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

Dan Didio posted:

It's cool when Mendes fakes a punch, into a faked shot, then throws an uppercut from the floor straight to Aldo's chin and before Aldo's even got his front foot back down from being thrown backwards by the punch, he's throwing out a jab to back Mendes off.

Aldo/Edgar 1 also has a cool Frankie moment when Aldo headkicks him and Frankie just keeps fighting.

hey jerusalem how'd you score aldo / edgar 1?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Marching Powder posted:

hey jerusalem how'd you score aldo / edgar 1?

It was real good but I think Aldo came out ahead, he took his shots but he always seemed to have the upper hand as far as I could tell..

Watching the rematch now and I'm actually pretty sure I watched this show before since I remember the controversy over Silva coming in as a late replacement and Cormier getting booed for not going hard out against him, but I don't actually remember this fight. Maybe it was overshadowed in my mind by Jon Jones loving up his life all over again.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

Jerusalem posted:

It was real good but I think Aldo came out ahead, he took his shots but he always seemed to have the upper hand as far as I could tell..

Watching the rematch now and I'm actually pretty sure I watched this show before since I remember the controversy over Silva coming in as a late replacement and Cormier getting booed for not going hard out against him, but I don't actually remember this fight.

yeah that's reasonable.

you probably did watch the rematch but it was considered tedious by people who didn't have context. hope you find it more enjoyable the next time around.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Kinda funny that in the Mendes match they mentioned that Aldo had a tendency to get gassed when he went to the 5th round, because it's pretty clear that is no longer a problem for him in that match or the two Edgar fights.

Lloyd Boner
Oct 11, 2009

Yes officer, my name is Victoria Sonnen...berg
Did we vote UFC 200 as the worst event? It wasn't, but drat was it forgettable. I think the only thing I really remember is Cain spin kicking Browne and that one body kick Silva hit on DC.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
just like the underdog look like he's winning when he's simply being competitive, ufc 200 poo poo the bed despite it having miller killing gomi, lauzon burying diego, sage not tapping to an armbar and winning, tj schooling assuncao, kelvin schooling johny, cain spin kicking brown and collapsing that stupid idiot, and frankie / aldo II.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Yeah, it's pretty astounding how garbage UFC 200 was despite the fact it had some good fights and sick KOs.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Yeah it was their "biggest show ever", and of the three cards that weekend, it was the third best.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

Memento posted:

Yeah it was their "biggest show ever", and of the three cards that weekend, it was the third best.

then that was a good weekend. 200 wasn't half bad.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
Nunes whomped Miesha, so 200 was p neat

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

Memento posted:

Yeah it was their "biggest show ever", and of the three cards that weekend, it was the third best.

the sioux falls card the next weekend was like 900% better

outy
Aug 27, 2004

Dan Didio posted:

It's cool when Mendes fakes a punch, into a faked shot, then throws an uppercut from the floor straight to Aldo's chin and before Aldo's even got his front foot back down from being thrown backwards by the punch, he's throwing out a jab to back Mendes off.

Aldo/Edgar 1 also has a cool Frankie moment when Aldo headkicks him and Frankie just keeps fighting.

Mendes uppercut:

https://gfycat.com/SelfassuredGrayHydra

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

gently caress, I like that punch.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

that second one should have taken his head off. conor hits quite hard huh?

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Conor definitely hits extremely hard but the Aldo KO was also perfect timing and hit the right place at the right time. He probably couldn't intentionally throw a better punch.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
Aldo did hit Conor hard enough to make him bleed. While unconscious.

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Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009
http://i.imgur.com/2k4ohQf.gifv

http://i.imgur.com/7HXdBa0.gifv

http://i.imgur.com/N14XSlb.gifv

Everyone should check out WEC Aldo to see how much better he was than everyone else at the time and to see how much better he is now compared to back then.

Tezcatlipoca fucked around with this message at 16:46 on May 29, 2017

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