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Inkspot posted:He survived his romance with Caitlin. That's not nothing. Almost nothing, but not nothing. Does it really count? He just became romantically obsessed with her and she turned into an evil woman
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She had more chemistry with him than Jay, who spent most of their scenes together shirtless and confused, or Ronnie, who spent all of their scenes together confused/just happy to be on a TV show. I mean, none of the Philosopher's Stone stuff made any sense, but... Speed Force?
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Inkspot posted:She had more chemistry with him than Jay, who spent most of their scenes together shirtless and confused, or Ronnie, who spent all of their scenes together confused/just happy to be on a TV show. I mean, none of the Philosopher's Stone stuff made any sense, but... Speed Force? Calcified speed force. It especially doesn't have to explain poo poo.
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Barry should have pointed out to Savitar that both their mother's have the same name.
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LongDarkNight posted:Barry should have pointed out to Savitar that both their mother's have the same name. It's kind of surprising that Savitar's plan didn't involve going back in time to the Allen family room.
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Barry and Savitar are fighting on the Allen family lawn when Thawne and Future Barry show up. Thawne just shakes his head, mutters "you loving idiots" and leaves.
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Rhyno posted:It's kind of surprising that Savitar's plan didn't involve going back in time to the Allen family room. Eventually there will be a dozen Barry Allens from various times piled into that room all yelling at different versions of themselves for being an idiot and loving up the timelines. Sort of like that Sealab 2021 episode.
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8one6 posted:Barry and Savitar are fighting on the Allen family lawn when Thawne and Future Barry show up. Thawne just shakes his head, mutters "you loving idiots" and leaves. It'll be a fight like the end of Shocker, but instead of fighting through TV shows; they'll be fighting through great moments in history and Barry will be killing butterflies left and right.
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Subvisual Haze posted:Eventually there will be a dozen Barry Allens from various times piled into that room all yelling at different versions of themselves for being an idiot and loving up the timelines. Sort of like that Sealab 2021 episode. Eventually? There's already like 8 Flashes, reverse or otherwise, in that room.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:It'll be a fight like the end of Shocker, but instead of fighting through TV shows; they'll be fighting through great moments in history and Barry will be killing butterflies left and right. 
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Ojjeorago posted:Eventually? There's already like 8 Flashes, reverse or otherwise, in that room. We thought Barry A was shaking his head at Barry B like "no, don't interfere, it's better this way" but it was more like "wow I was so naive back then, look at this time scrub just trying to change one thing".
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Rhyno posted:It's kind of surprising that Savitar's plan didn't involve going back in time to the Allen family room. The other reason is that they had some great setup a few episodes ago during the conversation between Barry and Iris (at the end of the memory loss episode) to resolve the Savitar plot by bringing him back to the Allen family room. Iris killing him was somewhat cathartic but, I dunno, it's nicer when the heroes on your show aren't murdering folks left, right and centre. irlZaphod fucked around with this message at 11:59 on May 29, 2017 |
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irlZaphod posted:I'm kind of disappointed that they didn't, I want them to just make that scene more convoluted every season. Meh, Savitar is a legit evil/bad dude. Dying in a kill or be killed scenario seems okay. What's kinda dumb is everyone screaming at Barry about how killing someone will CHANGE YOU!!! except he's loving murdered people before and it's nbd. This whole killing dilemma crap is just so loving dumb. I bingewatched S03 recently, and I was surprised by the lack of lovely teen romance lying drama - for the most part.
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I think a Flash writer would argue that Barry killing somebody while they're trying to kill him is different from the actual plan being to kill the bad.
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Yeah, I was also really disappointed that Barry's plan of "let's be really super nice to Savitar" didn't work. It would have been a nice solution to a villain who was doing bad stuff not because he was evil but because he had severe emotional problems. They could have solved his problem by looking for an Earth that didn't have a Barry Allen (like, you know, Supergirl's) and sending him there to start a new life as the Flash.
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Tree Dude posted:I think a Flash writer would argue that Barry killing somebody while they're trying to kill him is different from the actual plan being to kill the bad. Voluntary manslaughter only works as a defense the first time around.
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muscles like this! posted:Yeah, I was also really disappointed that Barry's plan of "let's be really super nice to Savitar" didn't work. It would have been a nice solution to a villain who was doing bad stuff not because he was evil but because he had severe emotional problems. They could have solved his problem by looking for an Earth that didn't have a Barry Allen (like, you know, Supergirl's) and sending him there to start a new life as the Flash. I was *kinda* hoping this, too, but Gorilla Grodding a dude seemed pretty unoriginal, and then also the guy was literally responsible for killing a bunch of people though. He also became evil because his feelings were hurt, so he's not the most mentally stable of people.
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So how long will Barry be gone next season? And why will the Barryless episodes be the best in a long time?
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twistedmentat posted:So how long will Barry be gone next season? And why will the Barryless episodes be the best in a long time? That's assuming that they don't spend the Barryless episodes constantly saying "boy I miss Barry. Things sure suck when Barry's not here"
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twistedmentat posted:So how long will Barry be gone next season? And why will the Barryless episodes be the best in a long time? Season 4 opens with them getting Barry out of the trap. "Good thing we figured out how to get you out of there!"
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Guy Goodbody posted:That's assuming that they don't spend the Barryless episodes constantly saying "boy I miss Barry. Things sure suck when Barry's not here" When Barry isn't on screen, the other characters should be saying "where's Barry?"
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muscles like this! posted:Season 4 opens with them getting Barry out of the trap. Nah he'll already be out. No mention of how they did it, just business as usual. Except now Digg suddenly has a daughter again and Wally is really nervous about something.
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Barry being nice to Savitar and it working could have been the bridge to "Got me again, Flash!" but it's a TV show that has to appeal to more people than just pure-strain comic book nerds. They never would have gone that route despite it being a great option. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl91v2Mvv94
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They could do a time jump. Make Wally super competent/confident. Maybe do the Brother/Sister crime fighting team thing with Iris. Have something happen at the end of the first episode that is so insane Mrs. Speed Force decides Barry can leave. It would really be nice to skip over everyone being sad that Barry is gone.
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What was the whole bit about Wally not having his powers if Barry was upset or something? He's been unable to access the speedforce before and wally still had his powers.
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Drifter posted:What was the whole bit about Wally not having his powers if Barry was upset or something? He's been unable to access the speedforce before and wally still had his powers. It was a cause and effect thing. Because Barry forgot who he was, Savitar also forgot who he was, and because he forgot who he was, he never activated Wally's speed powers because who the gently caress is this kid to him? Something something closed time loop. I hope the writers are finished with time travel bullshit plots for the rest of the show. Leave that poo poo on Legends where nobody giving a poo poo about causality is a feature, not a bug and played for comedy most of the time.
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Hopefully season 4 won't try to copy season 3, badly. Like how season 2 tried to copy season 1.
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Wheat Loaf posted:What do folks who didn't enjoy this season so much (I honestly didn't see enough of it) think Flash should do for season four to improve? Stop moping-the-gently caress around. Barry Allen is the fastest man alive. That is loving awesome and he should be having a great time not wallowing in guilt and self-doubt and whatever-the-gently caress they have been doing. If I want to see that, I watch Arrow. Edit: more Bart, less Barry.
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Wheat Loaf posted:What do folks who didn't enjoy this season so much (I honestly didn't see enough of it) think Flash should do for season four to improve? Leave Barry in the speedforce for the majority of the season. Wally is the new Flash. Iris gets something to do besides pine over Barry. Harry is a dick to everybody. No speedster as the big bad. No time travel.
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bentacos posted:Leave Barry in the speedforce for the majority of the season. Wally is the new Flash. Iris gets something to do besides pine over Barry. Harry is a dick to everybody. No speedster as the big bad. No time travel. Oh yeah. Wally is still in the "the superpowers are great" phase. Just let him star and Barry can still be a whiny bitch when he gets back mid-season. Also, Iris and Julian hook up since they are both in rebound. Edit: I'd really like to believe they were lampshading how depressing the show is with future emo Barry, time remnant evil Barry, and Bart. Maybe they have learned their lesson and he'll be content and grounded when he gets out of the speedforce. Even the musical episode made fun of the show. Aleph Null fucked around with this message at 20:10 on May 30, 2017 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:What do folks who didn't enjoy this season so much (I honestly didn't see enough of it) think Flash should do for season four to improve? Make the tone a lot more upbeat, give all the supporting characters something to do, don't make the whole season about defeating another speedster, and no more completely insane time travel plot holes.
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Finally got around to watching the beginning of the Season Finale of The Flash and saw that it was HR that got killed instead of Iris. Goddamn this show is getting ridiculous.
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He should learn to run faster. And a new trick to forget.
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Wheat Loaf posted:What do folks who didn't enjoy this season so much (I honestly didn't see enough of it) think Flash should do for season four to improve? Also I'm all for suspension of disbelief but they really pushed it a lot this season. I just don't think the writers are very good at writing time travel stories, they get convoluted and they can't stick to their own rules. The multiverse stuff is, usually, good, though. The Caitlin/Killer Frost stuff was bad. I liked Julian although I fully expected him to get written out at the end of the season, it's hard to see what they'll do with him now. The season really fell away from Barry's day job too (aside from one or two episodes). Hell, everyone's day jobs. I liked Wally developing as Kid Flash, but there probably wasn't enough of it and particularly towards the end of the season they seemed to mostly just have him get beat up a lot. I liked his relationship with Jesse but again it was largely dropped aside from the episode where he's inexplicably missing for the whole thing.
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Make the main villain a non-speedster. They've locked up or killed off so many bad guys that could have been awesome recurring characters. Speedster vs speedster is boring now, IMO.
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