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Stultus Maximus posted:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/29/portland-attack-republican-james-buchal-militia-groups This article  For a while now I kept thinking that this whole politics thing will come to blood then second guessing myself. I no longer second guess my gut feelings. There will be blood.
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M_Gargantua posted:This article There has been blood. There will continue to be blood.
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May 30, 2017 01:41
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CommieGIR posted:Yes, they had a carrier off the coast of Syria previously, and they have the largest Western European carrier in comission. The de Gaulle is unique, which means they currently have 0 for the next 18 months during refueling.
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May 30, 2017 01:45
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This militia talk reminds me of the documentary I just watched about the Oklahoma City bombing. PBS did it as part of their American Experience series, and it's currently on Netflix. It's an interesting watch.
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May 30, 2017 01:45
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Stultus Maximus posted:There has been blood. There will continue to be blood. We're imagining different scales. I have to spend 8 weeks out west and I don't want there to be chaos while I far from home.
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May 30, 2017 01:50
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shyduck posted:This militia talk reminds me of the documentary I just watched about the Oklahoma City bombing. PBS did it as part of their American Experience series, and it's currently on Netflix. It's an interesting watch. They did a special on Ruby Ridge too. Lots of good stuff from PBS lately.
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May 30, 2017 01:55
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:They did a special on Ruby Ridge too. Lots of good stuff from PBS lately. I was too young to understand what went on at Ruby Ridge but  that ROE
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May 30, 2017 01:59
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Kurtofan posted:i'm afraid of reverse ww2 So is the historical parallel in that scenario that our occupied regions will be almost immediately welcomed back into the fold as a check on Canadian expansionism
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May 30, 2017 02:19
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What the actual gently caress https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/869166145894535169 How about the country that is your actual ally that was the target you orange buffoon?
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May 30, 2017 02:37
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Two Finger posted:What the actual gently caress What has Japan ever invested in Trump?
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May 30, 2017 02:45
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I hear they're not paying enough for protection
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May 30, 2017 02:48
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Two Finger posted:What the actual gently caress 他是一个大的橙色笨蛋 Learning Mandarin has been fun and mildly profitable.
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May 30, 2017 02:53
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Two Finger posted:What the actual gently caress Underlined the key word there. He is worried about his ally. China gave him the trademark on his name, which gives him a lot of money. What has Japan done?
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May 30, 2017 02:56
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Yeah you're right all Japan did was lose a war and donnie got no time for losers 
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May 30, 2017 03:01
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Justin is not Pierre and will not Yeah, he's more in his mother's image than he is his dad's. Pierre would have told Trump to gently caress himself on Day 1, and then procede to gently caress Ivanka while Jared weeps in a corner. CommieGIR posted:Yes, they had a carrier off the coast of Syria previously, and they have the largest Western European carrier in comission. Yeah, Americans knock France all the time for being "cheese eating surrender monkey's" but are surprised when they learn how big their arms industry really is and how in your face they can be about "Hey, we're in a state of emergency. So the Gendarmerie and some Para's are gonna be hanging out in town for bit" Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 03:06 on May 30, 2017 |
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May 30, 2017 03:03
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Two Finger posted:Yeah you're right all Japan did was lose a war and donnie got no time for losers Plus they beat the Russians once and well we can't have that.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Yeah, Americans knock France all the time for being "cheese eating surrender monkey's" but are surprised when they learn how big their arms industry really is and how in your face they can be about "Hey, we're in a state of emergency. So the Gendarmerie and some Para's are gonna be hanging out in town for bit" i dont really see the correlation between the civilian populace being okay with paramilitary/military forces providing security in a civilian setting and dropping bombs for more than 3 consecutive days anywhere outside of continental europe.
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May 30, 2017 03:13
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:i dont really see the correlation between the civilian populace being okay with paramilitary/military forces providing security in a civilian setting and dropping bombs for more than 3 consecutive days anywhere outside of continental europe. I'll rephrase, France as of right now is poo poo at sustained bombing campaigns, but the idea that they have a military that lacks the ability to drop bombs somewhere in the M.E. at any point in time is laughable. A few years ago, I had to explain to someone who thought Israel had the world's 4th largest/most powerful military that France surpassed them by quite a bit. I know how badly they dropped the ball with Libya and what not, but I certainly think it's foolish to pretend that if Marcon decided tomorrow to increase their military spending, they'd be out of sorts for years because they lack the capability. It's a logistics issue more than it is an ability issue.
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May 30, 2017 03:23
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Handsome Ralph posted:Yeah, he's more in his mother's image than he is his dad's. i'll never understand all the hate americans have for france, just because they didn't want to join in on oif. drat, their contribution to our revolution was huge. short term memory i guess. tangentially, france tried real hard to continue to grow the franco-american relationship after independence and become our prime ally but it didn't work out. couldn't overcome that strong cultural and economic bond we already had with england.
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May 30, 2017 03:24
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France and America are like two peas in a pod: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior One of the people involved was later promoted to Colonel 
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FastestGunAlive posted:france tried real hard to continue to grow the franco-american relationship after independence and become our prime ally but it didn't work out. couldn't overcome that strong cultural and economic bond we already had with england. The XYZ affair was some hosed up poo poo though, and France totally deserved to get poo poo relations with the U.S. for a while for trying to pull that poo poo.
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milk milk lemonade posted:France and America are like two peas in a pod: It was kinda hosed up how they did that lol
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FastestGunAlive posted:i'll never understand all the hate americans have for france, just because they didn't want to join in on oif. drat, their contribution to our revolution was huge. short term memory i guess. tangentially, france tried real hard to continue to grow the franco-american relationship after independence and become our prime ally but it didn't work out. couldn't overcome that strong cultural and economic bond we already had with england. There was quite a bit of post ww2 hate prior to OIF 1. It came partially because De Gaulle is a dick.
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FastestGunAlive posted:i'll never understand all the hate americans have for france, just because they didn't want to join in on oif. drat, their contribution to our revolution was huge. short term memory i guess. tangentially, france tried real hard to continue to grow the franco-american relationship after independence and become our prime ally but it didn't work out. couldn't overcome that strong cultural and economic bond we already had with england. I most of it tapered off after people realized how loving dumb of an idea the Iraq war was.
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Two Finger posted:Yeah you're right all Japan did was lose a war and donnie got no time for losers Bringing up how Trump's America Doesn't Celebrate Losers every time someone in the office gets sore about those confederate monuments has been the bright spot of my entire year. Especially when its the two sportsdads who are also so vocal about participation trophies. shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 04:05 on May 30, 2017 |
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May 30, 2017 04:01
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Yeah post ww2 France started poo poo in North Africa and indochina as well as having a failed coup
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Reverand maynard posted:Yeah post ww2 France started poo poo in North Africa and indochina as well as having a failed coup Nobody driving around with a Bush/Cheney '04 sticker plastered on the back of their Chevy Suburban guzzling down Freedom Fries knew this.
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Reverand maynard posted:Yeah post ww2 France started poo poo in North Africa and indochina as well as having a failed coup The French have built some of the most nasty weapons (post WW2) I've read about, if you're looking for landmines that'll totally gently caress you up or bullets that'll blow up your insides on impact, or in one rather neat video I saw when I was a teenager of a French military demo, don't be under a cluster munition, near it, see it, or even hear of it, or you'll be having a really really bad day.
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May 30, 2017 04:27
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I'd love to see the French bomb the gently caress out of Assad, then send in the FFL to take over strategic points for "stability", and take the loving sub base the Russians want so bad.
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Hexyflexy posted:don't be under a cluster munition, near it, see it, or even hear of it, or you'll be having a really really bad day. Really that's true of all true modern armaments. We keep refining traditional weapons sure, but peer adversaries will slaughter each other at a pace and intensity that beggars the imagination.
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May 30, 2017 04:38
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France also has one of the few armies that is actually down to fight and kill people instead of simply being parade ground soldiers.
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bulletsponge13 posted:I'd love to see the French bomb the gently caress out of Assad, then send in the FFL to take over strategic points for "stability", and take the loving sub base the Russians want so bad. I, too, would like to see France unilaterally declare war against Russia.
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Softface posted:I, too, would like to see France unilaterally declare war against Russia. In terms of "who can design the most nasty weapons" I don't know who the hell I'd bet on.
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May 30, 2017 04:49
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Hexyflexy posted:In terms of "who can design the most nasty weapons" I don't know who the hell I'd bet on. Design or deploy? Nasty weaponry aside these days I'd bet if the final victor being France
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M_Gargantua posted:Really that's true of all true modern armaments. We keep refining traditional weapons sure, but peer adversaries will slaughter each other at a pace and intensity that beggars the imagination. Holy poo poo this. I keep mentioning it, but look at the casualty and weapons expenditure rates from the 73 Yom Kippur War or the India-Pakistan War of 71. Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 05:00 on May 30, 2017 |
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Here's some late night porn. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/trumps-washington-congress/528426/ quote:But for the most part, his party has not openly turned on Trump. What would be the point? Behind closed doors, a longtime House Republican staffer told me, a few lawmakers still wholeheartedly defend the president; among the rest, there are differing degrees of fatalism. One group thinks it is possible to fight through the crisis, while another is resigned to “a long slow death,” as this staffer put it, potentially culminating in a Democratic-controlled House beginning impeachment proceedings in 2019. “This is like Reservoir Dogs,” the staffer said. “Everyone ends up dead on the floor.”
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facialimpediment posted:“You finally have united Republican government, and this is as good as it gets? Why bother?” he said. “A malaise is setting in.” Almost enough to make me orgasm.
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Reverand maynard posted:France also has one of the few armies that is actually down to fight and kill people instead of simply being parade ground soldiers. Their business is war and they do know their business. - Kipling
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Hexyflexy posted:Almost enough to make me orgasm. Their business is tax cuts and wealth and they don't even know how to do that -Me
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