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muscles like this! posted:A lot of older comedies just have stuff that would not fly today. See the "lovelorn guy who won't take no" character, which was a staple of comedies for years. Nowadays the guy looks like a borderline rapist. This is literally what the main guy in 50 Shades Darker does (and it works) so it is still flying today in that studios are still making films where it happens. Snowglobe of Doom posted:There appears to be a whole crossdressing genre in Thai films but I don't have the slightest idea how offensive or tone deaf they might be. As you can probably imagine, they both appeal to an audience of gay/crossdressing people and those who enjoy comedies about them, but also are stigmatized for often being dumb or crass. Thailand is like everywhere else in that it has bad movies that end up making money despite the critics saying they are terrible. These films have existed for at least the past 20 years, many of the stars are actual crossdressers (but some aren't), and a few are big box office hits (Iron Ladies might be the biggest one iirc). And occasionally the Thai censorship office goes extra dumb and tries to discourage them for a few years, then they start coming back. It's not really good to judge it by Western standards for LGBT depictions as Thailand has their own cultural definitions of things that are different than American/Western ones (like katoey). They make enough money that they keep making them, and the stars don't seem to think doing them will alienate their audiences, which considering some of them make their living by doing performances would be their death knell. Most of the people I know who followed Thai film closely have since moved on/left the country, I don't think I know of anyone right now who is covering new Thai cinema at all (and most of them didn't bother with those movies regardless), so I don't know what the current status is. Filipino films has a similar subgenre with crossdressing focused films (or at least it did, I haven't paid much attention the past few years), I'm not sure how things with the Philippines' new idiot in charge is changing things, as the only things that are getting exported to theaters here are romantic comedies.
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whydirt posted:And? I dot understand your question. It's not especially family friendly despite being excellent, or at least it's not moreso than Mrs. Doubtfire which is problematic but not nearly as racy. It's a great movie though I just rewatched it last month
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I did some googling and the Addams Family licence is currently held by MGM who were planning a stop motion animated film as of last year I was just wondering if anyone was thinking about doing anything further with that. Though the "stop motion" thing has me concerned that they'll try to mindlessly rip off Tim Burton.
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precision posted:Says someone who clearly never saw The Rock in his heyday. Dwayne Johnson is a gift to us from on high and has better comedic chops than most comedians! The Rock is amazing. I said his gimmick isn't all that strange or high concept. He didn't rise to stardom and move into Hollywood by wrestling as some intergalactic caveman or obvious comic book character rip-off.
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Neo Rasa posted:If we just use this one then yes, always. It's my third example, android you're still wrong.
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Re: TV adaptation chatSnowglobe of Doom posted:Mission Impossible, Addams Family and Charlie's Angels did really well though (but not the sequels of those last two) I had a few hours to spare so I went back and watched The A-Team again because I vaguely remember that it was competent enough but somehow unsatisfying. A big part of the problem is that the action scenes are all pretty predictable but we also know that the team is always planning 3 steps ahead and loves to do "Whoops you caught me" fakeouts so even when poo poo seems to go south you just assume it's all part of their plan anyway, so there's no tension. I think they might have tried to walk that back when Hannibal is surprised that the general is still alive and the team starts to question his loyalty but c'mooonnnnn. But of course the end of the film is going to end exactly how you expect, that's pretty much a staple of the genre. A big part of the enjoyment comes from the team's camaraderie, seeing their complicated plan unfold and watching the villain getting his just deserts and in this one the villain is all "Eh, I'll be back on my feet in no time" and the team's chemistry just didn't click for me and they overexplained all their action scenes. Tars Tarkas posted:It's not really good to judge it by Western standards for LGBT depictions as Thailand has their own cultural definitions of things that are different than American/Western ones (like katoey). I figured as much, I really don't know enough about katoey culture or even much about Thai films apart from Magic Lizard and Werewolf in Bangkok which really deserves a "Movie of the month" thread
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I actually had somehow gotten the impression that A-Team did well enough, and I think I remember something about a sequel, but as I'm typing this I realize that what happened is I got it confused with GI Joe 
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:gently caress no. There were two Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures shows (one animated, one live action) There was a live action Bill and Ted show? Why don't I remember this? I do remember two animated shows though, either that or the one show had a complete design overhaul at some point.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Re: TV adaptation chat I just rewatched MI: ghost protocol, and they ratchet up the tension so well in that. Potential problems keep arising and stacking and you're never sure which way the dominoes are going to fall. I do have one question though: why did the bad guy have a mask on in Dubai?
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raditts posted:There was a live action Bill and Ted show? Why don't I remember this? The animated show got overhauled and changed all the voice actors from the movie people to new people, who also just happened to be the same actors who played the characters in the live action series that was less than 10 episodes
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Skwirl posted:It's my third example, android you're still wrong. Actually, I'm right [transforms into a skateboard with backwards baseball cap on it and flies into space].
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:gently caress no. There were two Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures shows (one animated, one live action), three different Highlander series, an animated Napoleon Dynamite series, a Rambo cartoon for kids, three Robocop series, two Uncle Buck series and so many more. A lot of those shows owned super hard though Highlander: The Series, for example, is fun as gently caress once you get into its general vibe, and the Robocop live-action show was... extremely loving weird but also really rad e: the live-action one for kids, not Prime Directives, Prime Directives is utter rear end
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The MSJ posted:Which one had the hologram ghost? I'm... not sure offhand but I think the live-action kids show one? it definitely had an episode where Robocop fights Roddy Piper
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Highlander series was kinda like the Stargate series; better than the movie in unexpected ways
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I'm... not sure offhand but I think the live-action kids show one? Was it in an alleyway, and did it last for 5+ minutes?
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precision posted:But did worse at the box office. Significantly. Eddie Izzard as Grandpa is loving amazing in it.
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Don't think there's a thread for it so... if anyone saw the new pirates of caribean yet , is it any good / as good as the first one?
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Eddie Izzard as Grandpa is loving amazing in it. It was a casualty of that "what the gently caress are they doing with their programming schedule" era of NBC. Some might say that era never truly ended...
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Avalerion posted:Don't think there's a thread for it so... if anyone saw the new pirates of caribean yet , is it any good / as good as the first one? Yes / No
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got any sevens posted:I do have one question though: why did the bad guy have a mask on in Dubai? He wanted to be there personally to receive the nuke codes (ego? anticipation?) but didn't want to be too high profile.
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There was a weird science show that my brother and I used to watch. I didn't even know of the movie until a few years ago.
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IUG posted:There was a weird science show that my brother and I used to watch. I didn't even know of the movie until a few years ago. I remember that being pretty good. Main episode I they is one of them controls the other to be good at basketball through a game gear game, but the cartridge gets destroyed so they have to win the big game by controlling him through a football game and he keeps kicking half court three pointers.
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I missed Lucha Underground chat but yeah, if you have Netflix you should absolutely watch it. The phrase I've used is "it's everything you loved about 80s wrestling" and rules. TBH it's a bit shaky at the beginning, if you absolutely want to cut to the good stuff start with Season 1 Episode 7 which has two kinda average matches but then an amazing main event Ladder Match that will tell you right away if Lucha Underground is for you.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I missed Lucha Underground chat but yeah, if you have Netflix you should absolutely watch it. The phrase I've used is "it's everything you loved about 80s wrestling" and rules. TBH it's a bit shaky at the beginning, if you absolutely want to cut to the good stuff start with Season 1 Episode 7 which has two kinda average matches but then an amazing main event Ladder Match that will tell you right away if Lucha Underground is for you. Did somebody say Ladder Match? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlc6OT1OHfM
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raditts posted:It was a casualty of that "what the gently caress are they doing with their programming schedule" era of NBC. I am very glad that Munsters reboot failed because from its ashes we got Hannibal which is way better in every way
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It's pretty drat wild that Hannibal was made, let alone that it aired on a 'normal' network NBC. Homo-erotic murder cannibal police procedural that's full-to-the-brim with gore and innuendo wasn't what I associated with NBC. That being said, the show is stellar and I hope they make more. It's really entertaining to watch the show go through the paces of being a procedural for the first dozen episodes before dropping all pretence and getting super buck wild as soon as they really could.
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well why not posted:It's pretty drat wild that Hannibal was made, let alone that it aired on a 'normal' network NBC. Homo-erotic murder cannibal police procedural that's full-to-the-brim with gore and innuendo wasn't what I associated with NBC. That being said, the show is stellar and I hope they make more. It's really entertaining to watch the show go through the paces of being a procedural for the first dozen episodes before dropping all pretence and getting super buck wild as soon as they really could. I know right? That's was OTA and basically made Seven look tame.
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raditts posted:There was a live action Bill and Ted show? Why don't I remember this? Someone uploaded a few of the episodes to youtube. Enjoy!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL8YCSAh3KY
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well why not posted:It's pretty drat wild that Hannibal was made, let alone that it aired on a 'normal' network NBC. Homo-erotic murder cannibal police procedural that's full-to-the-brim with gore and innuendo wasn't what I associated with NBC. That being said, the show is stellar and I hope they make more. It's really entertaining to watch the show go through the paces of being a procedural for the first dozen episodes before dropping all pretence and getting super buck wild as soon as they really could. I just saw a tweet from Mads Mikkelsen linking to an article about Bryan Fuller trying to get everyone on board for a fourth Hannibal season, and while I guess the chances are rocky I'm definitely at half mast.
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davidspackage posted:I just saw a tweet from Mads Mikkelsen linking to an article about Bryan Fuller trying to get everyone on board for a fourth Hannibal season, and while I guess the chances are rocky I'm definitely at half mast. I think the series finale was probably the perfect way to end the show, but I'm always up for more. But there are still some hurdles: - Fuller's made it explicitly clear that he wants to adapt Silence of the Lambs, but MGM owns those rights, and while there have been rumors that those rights are due to revert later this year, I've never seen anything official on the matter - Fuller's going to have his hands full with the second season of American Gods, and he got fired from Star Trek Discovery last year for the same reason Amazon wouldn't pick up a fourth season of Hannibal when it was initially canceled: He's a notorious prima donna when it comes to getting scripts done, and he's always insistent that he won't roll cameras until an entire season is written out (Amazon's condition for Hannibal was that production start almost immediately) - Even if he does get those rights issues sorted out and he learns something about time management, there's still the issue that by its third season, Hannibal was an obscenely expensive show that about three dozen people were watching, and that's going to be a tough sell
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Timby posted:- Fuller's going to have his hands full with the second season of American Gods, and he got fired from Star Trek Discovery last year for the same reason Amazon wouldn't pick up a fourth season of Hannibal when it was initially canceled: He's a notorious prima donna when it comes to getting scripts done, and he's always insistent that he won't roll cameras until an entire season is written out (Amazon's condition for Hannibal was that production start almost immediately) Honestly more writing rooms need to be like this. So many seasons of shows are riddled with scripts that feel made up on the spot.
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Timby posted:- Even if he does get those rights issues sorted out and he learns something about time management, there's still the issue that by its third season, Hannibal was an obscenely expensive show that about three dozen people were watching, and that's going to be a tough sell Hannibal's fanbase is about where Firefly's was at this point in that show's life: small, but extremely loud. Give it another 10 years and Hannibal will be loving inescapable and you'll be seeing "THIS IS MY DESIGN" T-shirts on sweaty nerds everywhere.
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With three seasons, I feel like I've got what Hannibal was about. I'm happy he's moved onto something else, particular something as perfect for him as American Gods.
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MacheteZombie posted:Honestly more writing rooms need to be like this. So many seasons of shows are riddled with scripts that feel made up on the spot. The problem is that this isn't always realistic, because it gets very expensive very quickly. With Star Trek Discovery, for example, they were supposed to start shooting last July / August at the absolute latest to make a January debut. August rolls around, Fuller's got a really, really broad story outline but he's still working on the pilot script and nothing else has been written (and he's also busy writing American Gods with Gaiman). So production gets delayed to November to give Fuller time to pull his head out of his rear end and make a May 2017 launch date. At the same time, though, they're still paying people like the production designers / builders, the crews, the costume people, even actors (although they hadn't even started casting at that point because they had no scripts) to be available for work so you don't lose them. That adds up. So then November rolls around and they're still nowhere near being ready to shoot -- no casting has been done, Fuller's still farting around with the pilot script and writing the stories for the remaining episodes of the season. So CBS finally has had enough, tells Fuller he's out, immediately installs new producers and says, "Look, we've spent enough money on this, we start filming in January." Of course, by January they only had a few casting decisions made, and sets were being built and torn down because scripts were constantly changing. It's a beautiful trainwreck.  I mean, I get that having everything planned out in advance is the platonic ideal or whatever, but almost inevitably you run into one of two things: A producer who's a control freak and can't get things done on time, like Fuller, or a producer who completely burns himself out and basically has a nervous breakdown (J. Michael Straczynski after Babylon 5 ended).
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Timby posted:At the same time, though, they're still paying people like the production designers / builders, the crews, the costume people, even actors (although they hadn't even started casting at that point because they had no scripts) to be available for work so you don't lose them. Seems kinda dumb to hire these people way before they're needed. What's the hurry?
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Sir Kodiak posted:Seems kinda dumb to hire these people way before they're needed. What's the hurry? When you have a set date for start of production, you get your crews in place and say, "Hey, cameras roll on X date, set construction begins on Y, show up for prep meetings on Z." Then that date comes around and you're not ready, you're in a position of either paying people to be on retainer / "hurry up and wait," or praying that they'll still be available three months from now and not busy with another project. I mean, costume design alone takes forever and a day with the amount of screen testing that has to be done.
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Plus, there's things like on-the-set creativity that showrunners don't anticipate in the writer's room. There's something to be said for allowing other voices and creative visions into the process.
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Timby posted:When you have a set date for start of production This is what I'm questioning. Discovery looks awful and the production stories are worse. And this isn't like trying to fit Ant-Man 2 into a five-year plan of 2-3 movies a year, with interwoven sequels and such. Star Trek hasn't been on TV in over a decade. What's the rush to get it out right now?
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