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Neofelis
Jun 22, 2009

Ularg posted:



I just found this when trying to find dumb Obama "controversies" images.

Some pages back, but out of curiosity I checked the unemployment rate before the last 3 months of each presidency (the election year's October):

Clinton: 3.9 (-3.2)
Bush: 6.5 (+2.1)
Obama: 4.8 (-4.2)

Hopefully Trump's first and last 3 months happen to use the same month for the figure.

"You should have elected a socialist cat" tax.

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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Everyone knows all non essential cash gets spent on booze, gambling, and hookers in boom towns like in ND oil fields.

Canuckistan
Jan 14, 2004

I'm the greatest thing since World War III.





Soiled Meat

Mustached Demon posted:

Everyone knows all non essential cash gets spent on booze, gambling, and hookers in boom towns like in ND oil fields.

Meth. Don't forget the meth.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







:siren:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/30/politics/russians-trump-campaign-information/

quote:

Russian government officials discussed having potentially "derogatory" information about then-presidential candidate Donald Trump and some of his top aides in conversations intercepted by US intelligence during the 2016 election, according to two former intelligence officials and a congressional source.

One source described the information as financial in nature and said the discussion centered on whether the Russians had leverage over Trump's inner circle. The source said the intercepted communications suggested to US intelligence that Russians believed "they had the ability to influence the administration through the derogatory information."

But the sources, privy to the descriptions of the communications written by US intelligence, cautioned the Russian claims to one another "could have been exaggerated or even made up" as part of a disinformation campaign that the Russians did during the election.

arbybaconator
Dec 18, 2007

All hat and no cattle

:siren: Piss tape is real :siren:

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/869497367011184640

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Also Michael Dubke is out as communications director, which of course is something you do at 7AM at the start of the work week.

Sean Spicer survives for now.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

The President is awake
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/869503804307275776

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

RandomBlue posted:

Everything is flyover country until it's not. Cities grow and become real big boy cities over time unless our population is in decline as a country.

Most of the rust belt is either static or shrinking in population precipitously. The only parts of this country growing rapidly are sun belt states.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!




Putin just got rock hard

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

back to the old trade deficit bullshit for yet another round, should be a good week of Trumpian nonsense tweeting while he gets hammered by fresh scandals every single evening

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







WeAreTheRomans posted:

back to the old trade deficit bullshit for yet another round, should be a good week of Trumpian nonsense tweeting while he gets hammered by fresh scandals every single evening

Morning now, apparently.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016


Been a while since a bunch of Europeans murdered each other so sure why not.

yonah
May 30, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/869509894688387072

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Oh they're laughing, Donnie. Just not in the way you think they are.

Like, I seriously can't imagine what it must be like to be a Russian spymaster in the last few months. How can you not just be positively glowing with joy with a massive spring in your step wherever you go, whistling a jaunty tune as your adversaries do a better job of sabotaging themselves than you could have ever dreamed of doing on your own?

an AOL chatroom
Oct 3, 2002


Is this fun for him? I just hope this is fun for *someone*

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

Hey, a half-true tweet instead of a complete fabrication.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Drone posted:

Oh they're laughing, Donnie. Just not in the way you think they are.

Like, I seriously can't imagine what it must be like to be a Russian spymaster in the last few months. How can you not just be positively glowing with joy with a massive spring in your step wherever you go, whistling a jaunty tune as your adversaries do a better job of sabotaging themselves than you could have ever dreamed of doing on your own?

How in the gently caress are Trump or any Republican Russians spies adversaries?

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Fulchrum posted:

You do understand that "war ceiminal" has an actual goddamn definition, and doesn't mean "he didn't immediately disband all levels of the us military and then hand Iran nukes", right?

Apoplexy posted:

Yeah, I'm not Obama's biggest fan, but he didn't do anything but continue with poo poo Bush started. If he'd ceased all drone warfare and attempts to stamp out terrorism all throughout the Middle-East, there'd have been repercussions. The kind that Americans wouldn't accept, as opposed to 'dead foreigners'

So pursuing a war criminal's policy, expanding bombings into Yemen, striking civilians and civilian targets there as well as in Syria and Pakistan, is all perfectly okay and not criminal at all.
All right then.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Flowers For Algeria posted:

So pursuing a war criminal's policy, expanding bombings into Yemen, striking civilians and civilian targets there as well as in Syria and Pakistan, is all perfectly okay and not criminal at all.
All right then.

Yes, dumbfuck. THere is a legal definition for war criminal, and "doing things I don't like" is not it.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

Fulchrum posted:

Yes, dumbfuck. THere is a legal definition for war criminal, and "doing things I don't like" is not it.

Mark, please, calm down.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Fulchrum posted:

How in the gently caress are Trump or any Republican Russians spies adversaries?

The Republicans definitely view the nice Russian men as friends while the Russian spies know they're taking the Republicans for a ride

Kekekela
Oct 28, 2004

Drone posted:

Oh they're laughing, Donnie. Just not in the way you think they are.

Like, I seriously can't imagine what it must be like to be a Russian spymaster in the last few months. How can you not just be positively glowing with joy with a massive spring in your step wherever you go, whistling a jaunty tune as your adversaries do a better job of sabotaging themselves than you could have ever dreamed of doing on your own?

Everytime I've seen Lavrov on camera over the last month he's looked like he's experiencing all the withheld joy of a lifetime in that precise moment.

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Fulchrum posted:

Yes, dumbfuck. THere is a legal definition for war criminal, and "doing things I don't like" is not it.

Why don't you go read it then.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

BattleMaster posted:

The Republicans definitely view the nice Russian men as friends while the Russian spies know they're taking the Republicans for a ride

I give the Republicans enough credit to know that they are selling their country out in exchange for Russians interfering in elections to help them. THey just don't see any problem with that.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Fulchrum posted:

Yes, dumbfuck. THere is a legal definition for war criminal, and "doing things I don't like" is not it.

Military aggression is though.

But it's a moot point, no one will ever capture US Presidents and try them for their crimes, and obviously no US President is ever going to try a predecessor because duh that would make it too risky for the current prez to commit his own favorite war crimes.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







VitalSigns posted:


But it's a moot point, no one will ever capture US Presidents and try them for their crimes, and obviously no US President is ever going to try a predecessor because duh that would make it too risky for the current prez to commit his own favorite war crimes.

heh, are you sure?

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
Trump just YOU'RE FIRED his communications director, after three months. In a normal administration this would be a big news story.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Comstar posted:

Trump just YOU'RE FIRED his communications director, after three months. In a normal administration this would be a big news story.

This, THIS will stop the leaks.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Fulchrum posted:

I give the Republicans enough credit to know that they are selling their country out in exchange for Russians interfering in elections to help them. THey just don't see any problem with that.

The Republicans seemed to go off the deep end some time during 8 years of Obama. I saw a lot of people fawning over Putin because he's white and Conservative and badass and shirtless and Christian unlike Obama. I even saw a few people threaten to move to Russia after the gay marriage ruling (of course they didn't.)

I totally wouldn't be surprised if they're still in that mindset even now that they're in control

edit: I suppose that isn't entirely incompatible with being fully aware of the fact that they're selling out their country though

moskiitto
Feb 27, 2013

Overlardness

Comstar posted:

Trump just YOU'RE FIRED his communications director, after three months. In a normal administration this would be a big news story.
Was it "YOU'RE FIRED" or was it "gently caress, I'M OUT OF HERE"?

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



moskiitto posted:

Was it "YOU'RE FIRED" or was it "gently caress, I'M OUT OF HERE"?

He resigned, according to WaPo

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Flowers For Algeria posted:

Why don't you go read it then.

If you are that godddamn dense.

• wilful killing;
• torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;
• wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health;
• extensive destruction or appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;
• compelling a prisoner of war or other protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power;
• wilfully depriving a prisoner of war or other protected person of the rights of a fair and regular trial;
• unlawful deportation or transfer;
• unlawful confinement;
• taking of hostages;
• committing outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating or degrading treatment and desecration of the dead;
• enforced sterilization;
• compelling the nationals of the adverse party to take part in military operations against their own party;
• killing or wounding a combatant who has surrendered or is otherwise hors de combat;
• declaring that no quarter will be given;
• making improper use of distinctive emblems indicating protected status, resulting in death or serious personal injury;
• making improper use of the flag, the military insignia or uniform of the enemy resulting in death or serious personal injury;
• killing or wounding an adversary by resort to perfidy;
• making medical or religious personnel, medical units or medical transports the object of attack;
• pillage or other taking of property contrary to international humanitarian law;
• destroying property not required by military necessity;
• making the civilian population or individual civilians, not taking a direct part in hostilities, the object of attack;
• launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated;
• making non-defended localities and demilitarized zones the object of attack;
• subjecting persons who are in the power of an adverse party to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind which are neither justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment of the person concerned nor carried out in his or her interest, and which cause death to or seriously endanger the health of such person or persons;
• the transfer by the occupying power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies or the deportation or transfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory;
• making buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes or historic monuments the object of attack, provided they are not military objectives;
• making civilian objects, that is, objects that are not military objectives, the object of attack;
• using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including by impeding relief supplies;
• making persons or objects involved in a humanitarian assistance or peacekeeping mission in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations the object of attack, as long as they are entitled to the protection given to civilians or civilian objects under international humanitarian law;
• launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated;
• using prohibited weapons;
• declaring abolished, suspended or inadmissible in a court of law the rights and actions of the nationals of the hostile party;
• using human shields;
• conscripting or enlisting children under the age of 15 into armed forces, or using them to participate actively in hostilities;
• making the civilian population or individual civilians, not taking a direct part in hostilities, the object of attack;
• pillage;
• committing sexual violence, in particular, rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, enforced sterilization and enforced pregnancy.
• slavery and deportation to slave labour;
• collective punishments;
• despoliation of the wounded, sick, shipwrecked or dead;
• attacking or ill-treating a parlementaire or bearer of a flag of truce;
• unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of prisoners of war or civilians;
• the practice of apartheid or other inhuman or degrading practices involving outrages on personal dignity based on racial discrimination;
• launching an indiscriminate attack resulting in loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects;
• launching an attack against works or installations containing dangerous forces in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects;

If you start just declaring anything involving war at all to be a war crime, all you are doing is just devaluing the actual loving atrocities.

And cue dumbfucks not understanding what object of attack means.

VitalSigns posted:

Military aggression is though.

But it's a moot point, no one will ever capture US Presidents and try them for their crimes, and obviously no US President is ever going to try a predecessor because duh that would make it too risky for the current prez to commit his own favorite war crimes.

No it isn't you idiot. Military aggression has a different term applied to it. It is usually known as loving WAR!

Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 12:54 on May 30, 2017

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







canepazzo posted:

He resigned, according to WaPo

So it was a "the president wants your resignation on his desk."

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Oh gently caress yes the weekends officially over.

hanales
Nov 3, 2013
I feel like it's going to be an interesting week.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Trump is back in town

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Fulchrum posted:

If you are that godddamn dense.

• extensive destruction or appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;
• unlawful deportation or transfer;
• unlawful confinement;
• destroying property not required by military necessity;
• launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated;
• making civilian objects, that is, objects that are not military objectives, the object of attack;
• making persons or objects involved in a humanitarian assistance or peacekeeping mission in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations the object of attack, as long as they are entitled to the protection given to civilians or civilian objects under international humanitarian law;
• unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of prisoners of war or civilians;
• launching an indiscriminate attack resulting in loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects;
Thank you for proving my point.

Fulchrum posted:

No it isn't you idiot. Military aggression has a different term applied to it. It is usually known as loving WAR!
I didn't know the US had declared war on Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, etc.

Flowers For Algeria fucked around with this message at 12:59 on May 30, 2017

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Flowers For Algeria posted:

Thank you for proving my point.

Fulchrum posted:

And cue dumbfucks not understanding what object of attack means.


loving called it.

Flowers For Algeria posted:

I didn't know the US had declared war on Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, etc.

And I didn't know that the US military was actively bombing the governments and military forces of Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, etc. Since, you know, that is what a war on them would actually constitute, and not a war against forces who are IN those places.

Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 13:01 on May 30, 2017

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







The United States is not at war with the Syrian government?

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Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Fulchrum posted:

loving called it.

I got a hospital in Afghanistan (a humanitarian-operated hospital in Afghanistan, no less) to remind you of.

Also you're not adressing the rest of the points.

You're a joke.

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