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sassassin posted:You are. The idea that Emily and Richard are bad people is just where the show begins, as its jumping off point. Lorelai's view of them is frequently proved to be wrong, and her method of parenting leads to Rory becoming a selfish idiot who breaks up marriages and runs off with the similarly selfish rich playboy idiot. Emily in particular has her rough moments but viewed from the lens of having to deal with Lorelai her whole life that's pretty understandable. Richard, however, is a drat saint the whole show through. It really is amazing to watch again, knowing how it ends now (after A Year in the Life) - all the criticisms of the characters and how offputting they would be in real life was entirely intentional on the part of Amy Sherman-Palladino and resolved wonderfully. Even Luke seemed to go through significant growth. Plus, the scene at the end of YitL where Emily is working at the whaling museum, scaring kids with stories of blood gushing everywhere is both one of the funniest things I've ever seen and the best resolution to a character arc ever, and it would have had zero impact without the full run of the show leading up to it.
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That show where two annoying women ruin lives and annoy a whole town by misquoting groucho marx bullshit.
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revolther posted:That show where two annoying women ruin lives and annoy a whole town by misquoting groucho marx bullshit. c'mon, it's not just the two women ruining lives, melissa mccarthy's husband on the show lied to her about getting a vasectomy and it's played for laughs as she finds out she's pregnant again
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revolther posted:That show where two annoying women ruin lives and annoy a whole town by misquoting groucho marx bullshit. I'm sure the show youre describing is not actually as good as that sounds
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how are yall talkin gilmore girls and nobody said paris rules
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FuhrerHat posted:how are yall talkin gilmore girls and nobody said paris rules paris rules super hard so does jess once he stops being a dick just for the sake of it all the time dean is scum
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sassassin posted:You are. The idea that Emily and Richard are bad people is just where the show begins, as its jumping off point. Lorelai's view of them is frequently proved to be wrong, and her method of parenting leads to Rory becoming a selfish idiot who breaks up marriages and runs off with the similarly selfish rich playboy idiot. Didn't the series end with Rory getting on Barack Obama's plane?
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Spoiler alert Alexis Bledel plays the same character in Gilmore Girls and Handmaid's Tale
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Didn't the series end with Rory getting on Barack Obama's plane? yes, after she met her personal idol just by chance, and the entire town came out to throw her a last-minute going away party the new miniseries set in 2016 showed that she utterly failed to capitalize on that before waffling about between increasingly worse jobs. she ends up back in the small town after failing all the way back home and can't even find a job there - despite how much everyone always loved rory, stars hollow got along just fine without her, probably better in fact. she finally ends up editing her small town newspaper for literally no money and getting pregnant with the kid of her rich ex-bf who is engaged to some french aristocrat, forced to watch as the people around her lead fulfilling lives with each other and not squandering ivy-league educations on nothing
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I thought Gilmore Girls was the comedy about the four old ladies?
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Kelp Me! posted:Spoiler alert Alexis Bledel plays the same character in Gilmore Girls and Handmaid's Tale Mind blown
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Strudel Man posted:I thought Gilmore Girls was the comedy about the four old ladies? that's The View
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food court bailiff posted:that's The View I thought he was talking about Sex and the City.
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Police Automaton posted:the evil waters of Cam Winston Cam! Winstonnn!
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Finding this thread (about Frasier, not Gilmore Girls, wtf) is giving me life. I watched it on a lark while playing Titan Quest during my days of doing nothing back in college and I found it to be an excellently written sitcom that's not only easy and fun to watch, it's quite clever (again, for a sitcom), and best of all, remarkably consistent. The first episodes in season one, aside from the abomination that is Kelsey's hair, are completely solid, and even the last season, while struggling with the classic sitcom dilemma of how to end a show that's been running for a decade or more, manages to walk away fairly gracefully. Complete duds are few and far between (parking garage), and even then they're not that much worse than the average. Meanwhile the good episodes are fantastic, and I remember crying with laughter at the radio drama. Sure the show relies on farcical scenarios frequently, but it handles them well, and they never feel overdone or hamhanded. Oh and I loved the episode where Daphne's old boyfriend comes back and they're all pretending to be different people. That's another excellent one. "Who's this little guy?" ... All: "Eddie!" I didn't find Niles and Daphne getting together nearly as intolerable as all of you either, nor her mother, although I agree both weren't the high points of the show. Now I have to rewatch it damnit
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The Wonder Weapon posted:Finding this thread (about Frasier, not Gilmore Girls, wtf) is giving me life. I watched it on a lark while I like the Niles and Daphne stuff but I binge watched it all for the first time quite recently. I can imagine it being annoying to wait a week for new chuckles only to get a subplot you didn't care for in the first place. There was a lot of it too.
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The Wonder Weapon posted:Oh and I loved the episode where Daphne's old boyfriend comes back and they're all pretending to be different people. That's another excellent one. Ha ha, that's one of my favorite moments too. Also, Daphne's brother never ceases to get a laugh from me. Especially how he insists on calling Roz "Rose".
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That end part of the parking garage episode makes up for the rest of it.
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I just saw the one where Frasier gave his son's bar mitvah speech in Klingon so why was his son Jewish?
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Ein cooler Typ posted:I just saw the one where Frasier gave his son's bar mitvah speech in Klingon Lilith is Jewish, Judaism is matrilineal
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Ein cooler Typ posted:was she Jewish on Cheers I had to look it up. Apparently it comes up in S8 when they perform Freddie's bris on the Cheers pool table (wtf?)
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Cosmik Slop posted:I had to look it up. Apparently it comes up in S8 when they perform Freddie's bris on the Cheers pool table (wtf?) That drat bar.
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Kelp Me! posted:Spoiler alert Alexis Bledel plays the same character in Gilmore Girls and Handmaid's Tale also mad men
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ArmZ posted:also mad men I never watched that show, didn't know she was on it. I think it's ruined for me since my primary exposure to both Jon Hamm and John Slattery were 30 Rock episodes and it'd be too ridiculous to see them being super serious after this kind of thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBMCc5a7Lwo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHVyBpWiSQk
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Kelp Me! posted:I never watched that show, didn't know she was on it. Still amazing to me how well those two can go from serious to hilarious. I mean, Jon Hamm was so good as Draper and yet has also one of the goofiest grins I've ever seen on TV when he's doing comedy.
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Yeah it's pretty great, especially Slattery IMO. 30 Rock is great for that sort of thing (serious actors being goofy AF) I know he's done some comedy stuff aside from that show but seriously Matt Damon as a neurotic airline pilot named Carol Burnett was amazing
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Kelp Me! posted:Yeah it's pretty great, especially Slattery IMO. I AM INVOKING SKY LAW
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maskenfreiheit posted:I AM INVOKING SKY LAW I WILL WASTE YOU
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Another good one is Don Cheadle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD8Nd6kkWmo
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algebra testes posted:Another good one is Don Cheadle Not to derail into 30 Rock celebrity chat, but Robert DeNiro was gold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnuFF_7T-WI
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mojo1701a posted:Not to derail into 30 Rock celebrity chat, but Robert DeNiro was gold: how the gently caress did they get deNiro to emote? The guy hasn't given a poo poo about anything for years.
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ultrabindu posted:how the gently caress did they get deNiro to emote? The guy hasn't given a poo poo about anything for years. That's what happens when someone threatens to out you as English.
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mojo1701a posted:Not to derail into 30 Rock celebrity chat, but Robert DeNiro was gold: Catherine O'Hara challenges Bryan Cranston to do his best "Eugene Levy in a Christopher Guest movie" impression (sorry for potato quality) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEnLaCyGk1Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blq-JZZ76zs
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30 Rock is some funny poo poo, but how much of it is actually Tina Fey's doing? So much of a performance is the actor, and maybe it's the confluence of AAAA-list talent being undeniably funny and good actors?? Fe: I couldn't find any clips with Kelsey on YT to post itt, any dailymotion/vimeo heroes out there?? Harold Stassen fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Jun 22, 2019 |
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cool new Polack jokes posted:30 Rock is some funny poo poo, but how much of it is actually Tina Fey's doing? So much of a performance is the actor, and maybe it's the confluence of AAAA-list talent being undeniably funny and good actors?? #gbshateswomen I thought you were being serious for a second with the Tina Fey thing  here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JCn_HPB0vc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPAl2LHoKic&t=27s "I just got fired because Kelsey Grammer scammed me!" and of course https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zffv-FCEYM
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cool new Polack jokes posted:30 Rock is some funny poo poo, but how much of it is actually Tina Fey's doing? So much of a performance is the actor, and maybe it's the confluence of AAAA-list talent being undeniably funny and good actors?? #gbshateswomen Then again Jane Krakadowski or we has to be fey's pity project. She has the range of eddie from frasier.
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