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I'm surprised people came away from the game complaining about the deserts, after I saw the swamps.
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May 31, 2017 03:41
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The swamps are better than the desert.
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May 31, 2017 03:45
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SyntheticPolygon posted:The swamps are better than the desert. Disgree, because you have to wait through the poison animation of all your invokes
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May 31, 2017 03:46
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Tae posted:Disgree, because you have to wait through the poison animation of all your invokes I didn't need to invoke in the swamps.
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May 31, 2017 03:48
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Subvisual Haze posted:But is it worse than the poison swamps? Celica's path has a map to make you go "oh gently caress you game" for everyone! For me it was the witch who summons more witches. I still like the game though.
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May 31, 2017 03:49
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Only time I used invoke was vs. Duma and even in that fight they ended up being more of a pain than anything since they blocked me out of spaces and aggroed enemies I did not want aggroed.
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May 31, 2017 03:51
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Did people really have troubles with that witch? It was one of the simpler maps in the game I thought.
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May 31, 2017 03:51
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Witches were never an issue for me because they had the defenses of wet tissue paper and for some reason would preferentially go after my archers or mages.
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May 31, 2017 03:52
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DoctorStrangelove posted:Only time I used invoke was vs. Duma and even in that fight they ended up being more of a pain than anything since they blocked me out of spaces and aggroed enemies I did not want aggroed. Did you use Genny's invoke? Because it's the best since they all die immediately and clog nothing.
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May 31, 2017 03:52
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Did people really have troubles with that witch? By that point in the game? No. She was the least of my issues on that particular map. Seeing her summon more witches did make me go "Oh gently caress you, game," though.
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May 31, 2017 03:55
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Strange Quark posted:Witches were never an issue for me because they had the defenses of wet tissue paper and for some reason would preferentially go after my archers or mages. The AI of witches is to attack the edges of your army. So you probably left your tanks inside your "circle" of characters.
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May 31, 2017 03:55
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Silver Falcon posted:By that point in the game? No. She was the least of my issues on that particular map. Seeing her summon more witches did make me go "Oh gently caress you, game," though. It is pretty scary when that happens. But in terms of biggest moments of "oh gently caress you, game" mine is seeing Medusa's description for the first time and realising Duma has upheaval.
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May 31, 2017 03:57
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Did you use Genny's invoke? Because it's the best since they all die immediately and clog nothing. Genny's more useful using psychic.
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May 31, 2017 03:57
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One thing about witches is they do not scale very well with the rest of the enemies. You'll reach the end of chapter 4 and they'll still have <30 hp and 10-14 speed/attack.
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May 31, 2017 03:59
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I brought so many mages to the final battle I was able to spare a couple of turns to invoke when I really needed it. Especially once I thinned out the eyeballs and witches a bit.
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May 31, 2017 03:59
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is making atlas a merc a trap it seems so obvious
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May 31, 2017 04:02
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Nuibaba's abode is the map I took one look at and went 'gently caress it. Warp/Rescue Cheese strat.'Cake Attack posted:is making atlas a merc a trap More Dread Fighters is never ever a trap.
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May 31, 2017 04:03
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Cake Attack posted:is making atlas a merc a trap Make him an archer. 1 archer is not enough.
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May 31, 2017 04:03
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DoctorStrangelove posted:Make him an archer. 1 archer is not enough. archers suck make him a merc
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May 31, 2017 04:04
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Pureauthor posted:Nuibaba's abode is the map I took one look at and went 'gently caress it. Warp/Rescue Cheese strat.' You can have way too many Mercs, make Atlas an Archer or actually a Mage. Rescue would be SUPER good for Celica's army.
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May 31, 2017 04:05
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Tae posted:The AI of witches is to attack the edges of your army. So you probably left your tanks inside your "circle" of characters. That would make sense. Though I never really sent anyone out to "tank" magic. It was so much easier just to snipe kill whatever was in range.
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May 31, 2017 04:07
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cheetah7071 posted:archers suck Archers break most of the maps. Atlas especially since he has absurd strength.
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May 31, 2017 04:14
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DoctorStrangelove posted:Mages with Mage Rings break most of the maps. Atlas especially since he has absurd strength.
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May 31, 2017 04:22
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pegasus knights and mages can do anything archers can do except without sucking rear end
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May 31, 2017 04:25
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cheetah7071 posted:pegasus knights and mages can do anything archers can do except without sucking rear end They can't counter archers or mages with mire or death. Nor can they kill conjurers from safe distances where they will not immediately be swarmed by nearby enemies.
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May 31, 2017 04:27
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cheetah7071 posted:pegasus knights and mages can do anything archers can do except without sucking rear end Anyone with range 5 and a +30 hit attack by definition does not suck rear end
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May 31, 2017 04:29
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Cake Attack posted:screw it im calling it now i dont like this game Why so?
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May 31, 2017 04:31
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Heaven Spacey posted:Anyone with range 5 and a +30 hit attack by definition does not suck rear end I was pretty impressed how much they managed to suck despite their 5 range
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May 31, 2017 04:31
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cheetah7071 posted:I was pretty impressed how much they managed to suck despite their 5 range Archers have been way better than Peg Knights for 3 runs now, your playstyle makes them suck Like I seriously don't know how you deal with the eyeballs destroying peg knights outside of heavy grinding.
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May 31, 2017 04:35
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Also, hot take: i liked the grieth/desert maps. RIP to the dozen spooky ghost boyz exorcised by wolff and his archer armycheetah7071 posted:I was pretty impressed how much they managed to suck despite their 5 range idk, I have Leon and Python with Iron Bows and Curved Shot and they're consistently very helpful, especially versus Arcanists/Cantors and entrenched Snipers. My Tobin has enough skill that he does huge damage with his Steel Bow to targets that Clair, Mathilda, or Clive can then move in and finish off easily. I'm only just now finishing up Act 3 so maybe they get way worse later?
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May 31, 2017 04:36
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Heaven Spacey posted:idk, I have Leon and Python with Iron Bows and Curved Shot and they're consistently very helpful, especially versus Arcanists/Cantors and entrenched Snipers. My Tobin has enough skill that he does huge damage with his Steel Bow to targets that Clair, Mathilda, or Clive can then move in and finish off easily. I'm only just now finishing up Act 3 so maybe they get way worse later? No, they actually get better as the game goes on because of Killer Bows being the best weapons in the game. 50+ crit chance, brave effect. And they get bonus damage against half the enemies in late game.
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May 31, 2017 04:39
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i gave python a killer bow and he basically became the guy that fixes any bad decision i make
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May 31, 2017 04:42
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Theta Zero posted:Why so? that post was 75% me being salty at losing a map and then resetting before i remembered the turnwheel, but poo poo like the random encounters and dungeons moves away from what i think fire emblem has always done well by introducing mindless fat, and the maps are either undesigned or actively designed to be frustrating
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May 31, 2017 04:44
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Atlas can be an archer postgame after he loops through Dread Fighter and actually gets some Speed to use.
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May 31, 2017 04:46
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so do i get whichever of deen and sonya i fight, or whichever i avoid?
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May 31, 2017 04:48
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Cake Attack posted:so do i get whichever of deen and sonya i fight, or whichever i avoid? Whoever you fight, you kill. So Deen fight=Sonya. Besides the fact that Sonya is a fast mage and Deen is another billionth merc on Celica's team, Sonya has some main story connections.
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May 31, 2017 04:49
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I don't mind the dungeons too much honestly, they're pretty ok. I'm really against the way they do overworld random battles though. Like, I know the purpose of having them constantly push forward to attack you is to kinda press the player to move up and defeat the map where they all originate from, and can encourage players to pick a certain path and everything, but sometimes I want to grind base conversations by going to different towns, or promote someone, or get something forged or just play the other army for a while, and being forced to do random battles while doing those things is super lame.
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Tae posted:Whoever you fight, you kill. So Deen fight=Sonya. Deen can become a Dread Fighter though, so Deen is better.
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Cake Attack posted:so do i get whichever of deen and sonya i fight, or whichever i avoid? You get the person you didn't fight. I killed Deen and got a kickin' rad Brave Sword for it, I don't know what Sonya gives you, but Sonya's also a pretty good unit and I like her conversations. Pureauthor posted:Atlas can be an archer postgame after he loops through Dread Fighter and actually gets some Speed to use. I'm at the start of my first playthrough and I made Atlas an archer and slapped a steel bow on him. With heavy draw he does around 30 damage from across the map, it's great.
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