UKMT May 2017: Weak and Wobbly vs. Old and Knobbly

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communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

Also it was made worse by my incredibly smug Guardian reading liberal colleague who prides herself on her progressive facebook posting sitting 10 feet away and not opening her mouth to say a word.

communism bitch fucked around with this message at 11:35 on May 31, 2017

# ? May 31, 2017 11:23

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 03:51

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

big scary monsters posted:

From the D&D pics thread:

https://twitter.com/dougalshawBBC/status/864095069556670464

lmao

Sorry from like 500 posts back but I love this too much, my favourite thing is the comment thread where he starts out with chipper responses to people and then gets sunk under the wave of derision and stops replying.

What a loving plonker.

# ? May 31, 2017 11:38

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Wasn't the last tube bomb a White British guy on the autism spectrum with no political motivation? Or at least conveniently not described as terrorism.

Fortunately it fizzled, and the vast majority of people with autism or learning disability aren't likely to blow you up on a train either.

# ? May 31, 2017 11:40

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Gonzo McFee posted:

He's one of the Jolyons, grown in a vat and released by radical centrists in response to Corbyn winning the Labour leadership.

He's not the one who fucks his windmill.

Jolyon Green is people.

# ? May 31, 2017 11:40

Spuckuk: Aug 11, 2009; Being a bastard works

El Grillo posted:

Have you guys seen this poo poo (Guardian video today, lady with a disability affected by cuts): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fbUqcc2bGs

I am loving seething. May and her shitbags are unbelievable cunts. gently caress them.

My missus knows this lady and does some work with her, it's heartbreaking

# ? May 31, 2017 11:45

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

Guavanaut posted:

Wasn't the last tube bomb a White British guy on the autism spectrum with no political motivation? Or at least conveniently not described as terrorism.

Fortunately it fizzled, and the vast majority of people with autism or learning disability aren't likely to blow you up on a train either.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40059351

it was yes. not enough evidence of a political motivation to be charged under the terrorism act according to the Met. still going away for 15 years

# ? May 31, 2017 11:46

Ewan: Sep 29, 2008; Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD

https://twitter.com/rascalblog/status/869532830786875392

Not confirmed but not entirely unrealistic

# ? May 31, 2017 11:49

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

Oberleutnant posted:

My boss just said that he got on the tube this morning and saw "a muslim man with a woman in the full letterbox" and that "it was a bit tactless for them to be riding on the tube at a time like this, but the husband probably wouldn't have blown himself up with his wife there, at least".
I remarked that, on balance, he probably wasn't likely to blow himself up anyway, which drew a response of "well I'm not too sure about that....", before descending into an incredibly awkward and prolonged silence.

What's the time period following such a terrorist attack that Muslim people should be invisible for?

# ? May 31, 2017 11:50

mehall: Aug 27, 2010

So it turns out my current MP is extremely hard working, has been active in the community, with more surgeries held than most any other MP, and is the head of the Trade Union representation for PCS at Westminster.

So now I'm stuck between voting for someone who I think is a good egg from Labour, but doesn't support independence, or a known good egg who does.

Except my girlfriend is pretty partisan and took my discussing potentially voting SNP badly when I brought it up briefly this morning.

# ? May 31, 2017 11:51

Verizian: Dec 18, 2004; The spiky one.

Aren't the SNP now pro-austerity or is that more propaganda?

# ? May 31, 2017 11:55

Nothingtoseehere: Nov 11, 2010

Well that sucks, but at least you are spoilt for choice of good politicians to vote for: Why is scotland hogging them all, when a bunch of us in England have none.

# ? May 31, 2017 11:55

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Vote for Policies has finally been updated with the 2017 manifestos (for England and Wales), pop along and recoil in horror when you discover you've been a secret 'kipper all along.

# ? May 31, 2017 11:55

Coohoolin: Aug 5, 2012; Oor Coohoolie.

Verizian posted:

Aren't the SNP now pro-austerity or is that more propaganda?

The manifesto includes a massive stimulus package so no, they're not pro-austerity.

# ? May 31, 2017 11:56

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

mehall posted:

So it turns out my current MP is extremely hard working, has been active in the community, with more surgeries held than most any other MP, and is the head of the Trade Union representation for PCS at Westminster.

So now I'm stuck between voting for someone who I think is a good egg from Labour, but doesn't support independence, or a known good egg who does.

Except my girlfriend is pretty partisan and took my discussing potentially voting SNP badly when I brought it up briefly this morning.

independence has already been rejected in the recent referendum and it's not the be all and end all.
however many MPs the SNP get next month, another referendum is not happening any time soon.
vote Labour for the chance we might actually get a Labour government again instead of this current Tory disaster, or at least be in a position to get one next time round in a few years.

# ? May 31, 2017 11:57

Intrinsic Field Marshal: Sep 6, 2014; by SA Support Robot

What do you think of the fidget spinner craze UKMT?

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# ? May 31, 2017 11:58

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

Coohoolin posted:

The manifesto includes a massive stimulus package so no, they're not pro-austerity.

actions speak louder than words

# ? May 31, 2017 11:58

spectralent: Oct 1, 2014; Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Thanks Ants posted:

What's the time period following such a terrorist attack that Muslim people should be invisible for?

Thousand years.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:01

Intrinsic Field Marshal: Sep 6, 2014; by SA Support Robot

Thanks Ants posted:

What's the time period following such a terrorist attack that Muslim people should be invisible for?

Do muslims have magical powers?

# ? May 31, 2017 12:01

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Verizian posted:

Aren't the SNP now pro-austerity

Yes, they gutted education for years and now that's hosed they're onto local government as the last refuge of things they haven't tanned completely despite running a deficit of 9%.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:02

big scary monsters: Sep 2, 2011; -~Ｓｋｕｌｌｗａｖｅ~-

mehall posted:

So it turns out my current MP is extremely hard working, has been active in the community, with more surgeries held than most any other MP, and is the head of the Trade Union representation for PCS at Westminster.

So now I'm stuck between voting for someone who I think is a good egg from Labour, but doesn't support independence, or a known good egg who does.

Except my girlfriend is pretty partisan and took my discussing potentially voting SNP badly when I brought it up briefly this morning.

I'm in sort of the same position. My current (SNP) MP is really good, and locally I'd like to support her. But on a UK level I'd rather vote Labour, even if that means supporting Scottish Labour at the same time.

Not that it likely matters who I choose because the SNP took over 50% of the vote in my constituency last GE.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:02

communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

Thanks Ants posted:

What's the time period following such a terrorist attack that Muslim people should be invisible for?

permanently, I suppose.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:03

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

My local MP is SNP and seems to do a reasonably good job, all the buses and such run by the council and are good and cheap. Bin collection is a bit bad though, these are the sum of my interactions with the local government.
Seems about as good as Brighton which was the last place I lived that had a good local government.
By constrast my hometown bankrupted itself by trying to swindle a neighbouring town over shopfront rights and had BNP on it.

Gonna vote (shudder) Scottish Labour though but its very unlikely to flip, trying to convince my girlfriend to vote for them instead of SNP but... Kezia.

e: poo poo now I'm reminded we have FPTP again, I really want Labour to win but me and my friends votes are gonna be pissed into the wind like a majority of Labour's votes. Woo! what a country.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:04

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

think of all the army incubators

# ? May 31, 2017 12:07

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

mehall posted:

So it turns out my current MP is extremely hard working, has been active in the community, with more surgeries held than most any other MP, and is the head of the Trade Union representation for PCS at Westminster.

So now I'm stuck between voting for someone who I think is a good egg from Labour, but doesn't support independence, or a known good egg who does.

Except my girlfriend is pretty partisan and took my discussing potentially voting SNP badly when I brought it up briefly this morning.

If it's a safe SNP seat then vote Labour. Like, in Inverness, my vote doesn't matter. The SNP will win. The Labour candidate is the very definition of Scottish Labour, which is to say awful & opposed to the relatively moderate manifesto put forward by Corbyn. But I'll vote for him safe in the knowledge he can't win so it doesn't matter that he'd likely immediately join the awkward squad at Westminster.

Scottish Labour really need to do something about how poo poo they are & how actively off-putting they are for a lot of potential Labour voters by just being utterly worthless at opposing the SNP on anything except independence. Which I support.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:07

Coohoolin: Aug 5, 2012; Oor Coohoolie.

Cerv posted:

independence has already been rejected in the recent referendum and it's not the be all and end all.
however many MPs the SNP get next month, another referendum is not happening any time soon.
vote Labour for the chance we might actually get a Labour government again instead of this current Tory disaster, or at least be in a position to get one next time round in a few years.

Voting Labour in most Scottish constituencies will split the left vote and risk letting the Tories in. In addition, a lot of Labour candidates up here are anti-Corbyn and would keep putting the knife in should they get elected. The SNP, however, would have no choice but to vote for a Corbyn government should Labour pick up enough seats in England- anything they do that might conceivably aid the Tories would be electoral suicide.

If you're in Scotland, vote pragmatically, and in most cases (with the exception of Ian Murray's constituency maybe) this means voting SNP.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:08

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

forkboy84 posted:

If it's a safe SNP seat then vote Labour. Like, in Inverness, my vote doesn't matter. The SNP will win. The Labour candidate is the very definition of Scottish Labour, which is to say awful & opposed to the relatively moderate manifesto put forward by Corbyn. But I'll vote for him safe in the knowledge he can't win so it doesn't matter that he'd likely immediately join the awkward squad at Westminster.

Thats the stuff.

The smell of democracy.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:09

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

Coohoolin posted:

Voting Labour in most Scottish constituencies will split the left vote and risk letting the Tories in. In addition, a lot of Labour candidates up here are anti-Corbyn and would keep putting the knife in should they get elected. The SNP, however, would have no choice but to vote for a Corbyn government should Labour pick up enough seats in England- anything they do that might conceivably aid the Tories would be electoral suicide.

If you're in Scotland, vote pragmatically, and in most cases (with the exception of Ian Murray's constituency maybe) this means voting SNP.

Nah, I am gonna vote Labour. The SNP are alright but Corbyn is better and there is "nae danger" of my area going Tory (I think they're called "Cunts" in Scots slang).

e: I haven't seen a huge amount of evidence of the SNP being left wing. They seem to be centrists in favour of public investment, which happens to put them on the far-left scale in terms of England but nowhere else.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:11

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

What do you think of the fidget spinner craze UKMT?

I think it's completely inexplicable.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:14

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Coohoolin posted:

Voting Labour in most Scottish constituencies will split the left vote and risk letting the Tories in. In addition, a lot of Labour candidates up here are anti-Corbyn and would keep putting the knife in should they get elected. The SNP, however, would have no choice but to vote for a Corbyn government should Labour pick up enough seats in England- anything they do that might conceivably aid the Tories would be electoral suicide.

If you're in Scotland, vote pragmatically, and in most cases (with the exception of Ian Murray's constituency maybe) this means voting SNP.

The SNP are not a left vote, they are a nationalist vote. Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh is not left wing. Some SNP MPs? Sure. But where was this attitude in 2015 when good left-wing MPs like Katy Clark were unseated by some total party hack who would never break the SNP whip?

# ? May 31, 2017 12:15

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Verizian posted:

Aren't the SNP now pro-austerity or is that more propaganda?

The SNP are pro-austerity (and pro-corporation) right up to the moment somebody asks them if they are. And contrary to what Coohoolin says, no coalition with them is possible because they will demand Indyref 2 as a condition of it. If you want Tories and you're in Scotland, voting SNP is the best way to get them.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:18

Captain Fargle: Feb 16, 2011

https://twitter.com/scattermoon/status/869649319409979394

# ? May 31, 2017 12:20

Lord of the Llamas: Jul 9, 2002; EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

https://twitter.com/PA/status/869873652711477248

:master:

# ? May 31, 2017 12:21

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

Captain Fargle posted:

https://twitter.com/scattermoon/status/869649319409979394

Trains are cool and good

# ? May 31, 2017 12:22

Kokoro Wish: Jul 23, 2007; Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.

TACD posted:

Vote for Policies has finally been updated with the 2017 manifestos (for England and Wales), pop along and recoil in horror when you discover you've been a secret 'kipper all along.

VIRTUE SIGNALING :siren:

# ? May 31, 2017 12:23

Coohoolin: Aug 5, 2012; Oor Coohoolie.

Jedit posted:

The SNP are pro-austerity (and pro-corporation) right up to the moment somebody asks them if they are. And contrary to what Coohoolin says, no coalition with them is possible because they will demand Indyref 2 as a condition of it. If you want Tories and you're in Scotland, voting SNP is the best way to get them.

1) The SNP can vote in a Labour government without a formal coalition;

2) Didn't the SNP just drop an immediate referendum from their manifesto? How do you know they'd demand indyref 2 as a condition of anything?

3) The last sentence is unrelated and backed up with nothing. The best way of keeping the Tories out in Scotland in almost every constituency is to vote SNP.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:24

dispatch_async: Nov 28, 2014; Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/869866720042909700

# ? May 31, 2017 12:25

Coohoolin: Aug 5, 2012; Oor Coohoolie.

forkboy84 posted:

The SNP are not a left vote, they are a nationalist vote. Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh is not left wing. Some SNP MPs? Sure. But where was this attitude in 2015 when good left-wing MPs like Katy Clark were unseated by some total party hack who would never break the SNP whip?

Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh does not represent the entirety of the SNP, but in any case, it doesn't change the fact that a LOT of people vote SNP for leftist reasons, and if some of these defect to the utterly useless Scottish Labour, there's a very real danger of letting in Tory wins.

# ? May 31, 2017 12:25