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marshmallow creep posted:i think you need good enough stats in agility, endurance and charisma to do it well, and certain minimum to even get the job. Anyone can be a "fluffer" too if you don't have the stats to actually perform, I think, and doing that results in being poisoned. It was points-based based on a few things with some minimums, if memory serves. Like having Sex Appeal as a trait and Kama-Sutra Master as a perk helped as did loving everything you could along the way. There were certain attribute minimums (I want to say that Charisma didn't affect it all that much?) but endurance and agility were the big ones. A sexy Chosen One who went around humping everything willing had an easier time becoming a porn star. I think there were also special things you could do if you managed to find all the porn mags. I never did manage to accomplish that one; only ever got like 6.
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i remember that cat. he thought it was hysterical that he had an adult-rated mod on the nexus that basically had no traditional porn content, just poo poo like the the Black Fist jamming both hands up the PC's butthole. i want to stress here that he told me this poo poo, i was always too busy trying to sort crap out for PW story servers to play many single player modules. he was a weird dude and i told him so. on the note of 'weirdest module you ever played', though, In The Footsteps Of Dante definitely takes the cake. some dude made all the circles of hell based off close literal readings of the divine comedy, and then put you in the role of going down to the bottom to recover 'something very important' to your companions. you have a choice between Dak'kon, Annah, and Fall-from-Grace. yes, THAT Dak'kon, Annah, and Fall-from-Grace. i ended up reclaiming the bottled essence of The Nameless One by clicking a 9-sentence long dialog choice that apparently out-lawyered literal Satan or something. i know i was talking to literal Satan at any rate. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 00:20 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 00:18
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Coolguye posted:the primary issue with the books is that the main character is some lawful good single class no kit human fighter, which literally nobody in the history of ever has done in those games and would get reduced to ashes and vapor in the first couple of hours of gameplay without some very serious metagaming and manipulation. it's like the writer who got the job was explicitly told "make the MC as boring as humanly loving possible because there's no precedent on what he should or should not be from the games", when the entire arc of SoA and the opening act of ToB is all about how the Bhallspawn blood makes people crave murder like fuckin' Dexter and poo poo. despite that, there's almost no moral conflicts in what i read, just emotional conflicts with understandable but drab stuff such as wanting to look after Imoen and getting distressed when she's in danger or unhappy.
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Tumblr of scotch posted:Also Minsc was barely in the books (as a bouncer at the Copper Coronet, of all things) and they gave him long red hair and no hamster. The entire series read like the author had only played the most bare, token playthrough of the game. what the gently caress.
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May 31, 2017 00:24
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Coolguye posted:what the gently caress.
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Coolguye posted:the primary issue with the books is that the main character is some lawful good single class no kit human fighter, which literally nobody in the history of ever has done in those games and would get reduced to ashes and vapor in the first couple of hours of gameplay without some very serious metagaming and manipulation. it's like the writer who got the job was explicitly told "make the MC as boring as humanly loving possible because there's no precedent on what he should or should not be from the games", when the entire arc of SoA and the opening act of ToB is all about how the Bhallspawn blood makes people crave murder like fuckin' Dexter and poo poo. despite that, there's almost no moral conflicts in what i read, just emotional conflicts with understandable but drab stuff such as wanting to look after Imoen and getting distressed when she's in danger or unhappy. Oh, I meant FR and D&D books in general; there are a lot of epic plots that I recall hearing about back in the day that would get completely drained of any kind of drama if more aspects of the setting were taken into account. Dragon-led orc invasion, and your beloved lawful good royal family sacrificed themselves to stop it, along with most of the people who actually knew how to run the kingdom? Here's Bob, the mid-level lawful good Cleric. He can cast Raise Dead multiple times per day. Where do you want him to start? I've heard a bit more about the BG books from one of the LPs, however, and they do indeed get worse. Your guess to the romance is accurate, and I recall someone saying they trash Khalid's characterization in the process, just to make the MC look better.. You know, I just recalled a Greyhawk module that did take those sorts of things into account, a murder mystery where a group of low-level PCs get invited to a family gathering of high-to-epic level adventurers. The murderer in question is very careful about doing things in a way where divination spells wouldn't give the game up, and one of the first things they do is the gank the family's Cleric before they can make with the Resurrections.
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Coolguye posted:what the gently caress. Abel also fucks Bodhi, Khalid is physically abusive to Jaheira, Imoen is raped by Phaere (or at least seduced under very creepy and coercive circumstances), the list goes on.
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Cythereal posted:Khalid is physically abusive to Jaheira, that dude isn't physically abusive to a goddamn diseased gibberling let alone jaheira in the base games lol
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Coolguye posted:that dude isn't physically abusive to a goddamn diseased gibberling let alone jaheira in the base games lol I suppose Khalid being a domestic abuser would have made the PC's romance with Jaheira a bit more understandable under the circumstances, rather than the "Ayo bby ur husbands dead u wan fak" romance we got
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Now I remember hearing about the BG book being bad, though I never read it. I also heard about the Planescape Torment novelisation giving Nameless a name.
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Unoriginal One posted:Wow, that's even worse than I'd heard. I loved the Baldur's Gate games as a kid, they were my introduction to RPGs in general, so my parents bought me the books for my birthday one year. They're bad, and I no longer own my copies.
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Unoriginal One posted:Here's Bob, the mid-level lawful good Cleric. He can cast Raise Dead multiple times per day. Where do you want him to start? On that note, I was greatly amused by that under-siege city in the beginning of Throne of Bhaal, where you could find some kid crying his eyes out next to the corpse of his recently killed father.... and then just use a Rod of Resurrection on said father, who just kinda goes, "Holy poo poo.... uh, thanks?" and goes home with his kid.
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Unoriginal One posted:Oh, I meant FR and D&D books in general; there are a lot of epic plots that I recall hearing about back in the day that would get completely drained of any kind of drama if more aspects of the setting were taken into account. Dragon-led orc invasion, and your beloved lawful good royal family sacrificed themselves to stop it, along with most of the people who actually knew how to run the kingdom? Here's Bob, the mid-level lawful good Cleric. He can cast Raise Dead multiple times per day. Where do you want him to start? There's a part of a book where the King of Cormyr yells at his daughter about the importance of never resurrecting a King or Queen, even himself, even if it's from assassination or war, because it would upset too many nobles and violate ancient bullshit laws.
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The author of the first two Baldur's Gate books actively hated being told to write an adaptation and banged them out in between commercial breaks on the TV- Throne of Bhaal's was written by Drew Karpyshyn. Also, by Forgotten Realms canon policy, they overwrite the games. So everyone but the protagonist is dead, until he died in the 5E module Murder in Baldur's Gate and resurrected Bhaal somehow. The Planescape novel was based off an earlier version of the script, where Fjull Fork-Tongue was secretly behind it all- the Nameless One pledged his soul to the Blood War to spare his village, then sought out Ravel to prolong his fate as long as possible.Coolguye posted:i on the note of 'weirdest module you ever played', though, In The Footsteps Of Dante definitely takes the cake. some dude made all the circles of hell based off close literal readings of the divine comedy, and then put you in the role of going down to the bottom to recover 'something very important' to your companions. you have a choice between Dak'kon, Annah, and Fall-from-Grace. yes, THAT Dak'kon, Annah, and Fall-from-Grace. That module was a loving trip- the credits sequence for the first part had Peter Gabriel's Red Rain playing over it. Kavak fucked around with this message at 03:17 on May 31, 2017 |
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Kavak posted:The author of the first two Baldur's Gate books actively hated being told to write an adaptation and banged them out in between commercial breaks on the TV- Throne of Bhaal's was written by Drew Karpyshyn. Also, by Forgotten Realms canon policy, they overwrite the games. So everyone but the protagonist is dead, until he died in the 5E module Murder in Baldur's Gate and resurrected Bhaal somehow. The Planescape novel was based off an earlier version of the script, where Fjull Fork-Tongue was secretly behind it all- the Nameless One pledged his soul to the Blood War to spare his village, then sought out Ravel to prolong his fate as long as possible.
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Coolguye posted:fortunately, forgotten realms canon has meant precisely gently caress-all since forever. games are what drive that setting, be they of the tabletop or video persuasion, and games are given free reign to disregard canon as much as they drat well please. This is the right idea, though I have seen at least one person on this forum argue otherwise.
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Coolguye posted:fortunately, forgotten realms canon has meant precisely gently caress-all since forever. games are what drive that setting, be they of the tabletop or video persuasion, and games are given free reign to disregard canon as much as they drat well please. Also, I assume that policy was made on the presumption of game adaptations of the books, not the other way around.
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Yeah, they don't really care if one version of a story is way more popular. Minsc and Boo showed up in a comic series at one point.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:That was gender-neutral, though. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure anyone could take that sidequest. I think you have to be a woman to do this post-game... thing. quote:- I heard about your X-ploits... how you blew the rig of every member in the Enclave. That took a stomach of iron.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I think there were also special things you could do if you managed to find all the porn mags. I never did manage to accomplish that one; only ever got like 6. You got a special issue of the Cat's Paw mag that increased your energy weapon skill if I remember right. SplitSoul posted:I think you have to be a woman to do this post-game... thing. Huh. Never knew about that one.
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SplitSoul posted:I think you have to be a woman to do this post-game... thing. Unjust. If I, a man, want to blow every member of the Enclave, who are the Fallout devs to tell me no?
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quote:Can't wait to mow down some semite undead with this 
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Rectus posted:Mai Raifu (possibly This one is too good.
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Along the same vein Sexy XCOM 2 beefcake armors
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I see shen's finally gotten around to issuing muton steroids to the soldiers.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that everyone in the mod is built like a Redfield that finished growing.
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:I see shen's finally gotten around to issuing muton steroids to the soldiers. He's going to bounce off an Ethereal's psionic attacks with those abs, grab it with his bare hands, and impale it on his nips as a warning to others.
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RareAcumen posted:Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that everyone in the mod is built like a Redfield that finished growing. I bet they could punch two boulders!
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King Vidiot posted:I bet they could punch two boulders! They're gonna give Senator Armstrong a Stone Cold Stunner.
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:I see shen's finally gotten around to issuing muton steroids to the soldiers. I love the codpiece and neck armor at around 2:12, what the serious gently caress.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:I love the codpiece and neck armor at around 2:12, what the serious gently caress. The Gun... is good. The Alien... is evil!
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The aliens were right to conquer us. Mankinds knows not what it hath wrought.RareAcumen posted:Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that everyone in the mod is built like a Redfield that finished growing. A real Redfield never finishes growing, he just takes breaks in between growing SolidSnakesBandana fucked around with this message at 18:16 on May 31, 2017 |
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RareAcumen posted:Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that everyone in the mod is built like a Redfield that finished growing. I can't hate it after how many cheesecake mods exist for female characters.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Unjust. If I, a man, want to blow every member of the Enclave, who are the Fallout devs to tell me no? And in another horribly sexist move by the Fallout 2 team, you can't have all the sex dolls get named after your character if you're male.
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I'm not sure if this qualifies as awful or awesome, but this is an illustrative example of how some of the crazier mods come about : https://twitter.com/ThotlineMiami/status/869901188036276224
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Coolguye posted:single class no kit human fighter, which literally nobody in the history of ever has done in those games and would get reduced to ashes and vapor in the first couple of hours of gameplay without some very serious metagaming and manipulation. Maybe that's why I had so much trouble when I tried to play Baldur's Gate my first time through. Kavak posted:Yeah, they don't really care if one version of a story is way more popular. Minsc and Boo showed up in a comic series at one point.  The Cheshire Cat posted:I'm not sure if this qualifies as awful or awesome, but this is an illustrative example of how some of the crazier mods come about : 
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